i have seen a few people including my self that are intrested in learning how to map/setup an engine

there is alot of information on the net about how to do so but yet its very hard to fined a clodge/learning center that teaches this in a class room face to face

so my idear is that stu @ msd start a college

what do you lot think??? i think yes

 

why did the txt change colour ??

 

Two ways of looking at that, great idea in principle but how many people are going to do this course, then either
a: Fuck it up, damage something and blame Stu
b: Do a good job and start taking business off him
Its prob cost Stu( and every other mapper out there) god knows how much time and money to learn what they know, so a course would cost a bomb!!

That said, I would LOVE to learn how to map L8. Or anything else for that matter

 

in that case you no what to vote for lol

 

I have done

 

i'd love to learn this
i've been a mechanic for 12 years now and cant realy go much further than i am at the moment
i'm looking for a new challenge and this would be realy good
but i think it'll never happen
theres to many idiots that would start course and then be in over they're head(myself inc possibly)
would cost a fortune
giving away to many trade secrets
and be more compitition for who ever is teaching it
i'm voting yes anyhow but i just cant see it
(if it does count me in)

 

I've been learning for the last 5 years and even now have still got plenty to learn!

It is a tricky subject to learn about as you have to be able to recognise problems and identify whether it's a mapping problem or an engine problem. You need a very deep understanding of exactly how each and every sensor works, what can cause problems and most importantly a thorough understanding of how and why the effects you see relate to the changes that you're making.

 

it does make me think its good to learn but no one wants to teach it for ovious reasons

 

thats my thought exactly mate

 

hence the idear for a college

 

I hear what you're saying mate

All i'm saying is, there's more to mapping performance vehicles than a college course

EFi101 ran a couple of courses in the UK, it's primarily done in the states - from what i've heard that gives a good basic overview

 

depends how long the college course lasts what did you vote btw?

 

I voted for it mate - more the principle of it than anything else

 

http://www.derby.ac.uk/motorsport

Theres plenty out there

 

http://www.derby.ac.uk/motorsport

Theres plenty out there

 

dosent have a course on mapping tho?

 

I've found a lot of universities will spend a couple of weeks covering mapping engine management as part of a motorsport engineering course. However, it's normally in the 3rd year

 

There's more to mapping than just plugging a laptop in and pressing buttons. As has been said its covered towards the end of the courses. You need extensive mechanical knoledege before you attemp to map a car.

 

Best way to learn is to fit a mappable ecu to your own car and do it !!!

Trial and error is how I learned

Get ready to waste fuel and/or break a few engines !

 

being a technition my self i do have quite a wide understanding but i want to move more on to the managment side of things.

 

its a bit unrealistic tbh...

do you guys realise how busy stu is?

do you think he would have time to squeeze another 20-30 hrs a week?

i dont think you realise just how much time and cost is involved in running courses like this....


that said, stu if you want to do it lol... me and my mrs have all the qualifications and contacts to make it happen might even be able to get you some funding

 

was just a thort tbh... lots of people want to learn

 

dont take it wrong mate, id be the first to sign up, id love to do it

 

The problem is, I bet Stu earns more than what teachers are paid I know I do...LOL

I am a contract electronics and software engineer, if any of you want to club together a months wages for me, (Ł2.5k) I would love to do it.

I am not an expert mapper but I have tuned a few engines in my time with good results and have designed a few ecu's in my time !


*** THIS ISNT A FOR SALE ADVERT BUT AN OFFER TO HELP OTHERS TO LEARN

 

hummmmmmmmmmmmm how do we no you are a good teacher you mite tell us that 15-1 afr on boost is good

 

LOL, true but I have learned the hard way on my own engines.
Any tuner who says he hasnt broken an engine due to bad mapping and/or ignorance is lying !
Everyone has to learn and start somewhere !

 

it depends where and what you teach mate, and its possible to do part time.


i was on Ł27.50 an hour when teaching...plus 10 weeks paid holiday mid summer...i was part time 20hrs a week , running my own garage in between

 

Jtech,

If Nik was part of the deal, I would pay you

 

 

James, I never realised teachers got paid that much !

As they say... Those who can ..do..., those who cant...teach

 

if you ran a private course you could charge whatever people would pay,

i see lots of one day, single teacher comes to your workplace at Ł1k a day, not sure what the teacher takes away, but thats good money

 

I got told that most engineering lecturers were failed engineers

 

going by my car will thats true

 

Mmmmm.

I reckon someone could clean up if they ran mobile training/ecu trouble shooting/on site live mapping etc

Not me, I hate driving around the country

 

potentially yes,

but then it comes down to how many would you do?

i reckon you wouldnt even get a years work from it tbh

 

There was nothing on your car that you need to have any guilt/embarrassment of my friend

Your engine bay was a pleasure to work in and the car felt genuinely strong in the limited time we were in it

I'm looking forward to seeing it again - was one of the best put together cars we saw last year

 

she will be back with you soon mate, i have a nice thick head to build up now

you were right about the bore, i honed it last weekend and its fine, was very light damage.


ps, tell stu to give me job

 

I reckon just lookng after all those who bought megasquirt thinking its plug and play would make some one rich


Must be a joke in that statement somewhere

 

Thats like saying when you learn your kids to cross the road chances are 1 of them is going to get knocked down as part of the learning curve.

Theres far more than enough information, in books and on the internet to not damage any engines.

You monitor DET, AFRs EGTs know engine spec's etc etc, while the map's maybe not be the best during the learning stages, (which is forever in honesty) there no excuse for a massive melt down.