How much do you think i shud pay for this take in note i dont want no-one saying get a real cossy as im only 17 and the day they insure a 17 year old on a cossy will be the day jesus returns... im gonna fix the whole front with a wrc bumper and grill as well as a diff bonnet and im gonna do a lot to the interior... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=280302416427
so how much should i offer thanks ...

 

most insurers will price you of what a cossie will cost anyhow, as it looks like a cossie, plu sthe rst engine is gona kill you on insurance aswell

 

Its gonna cost quite abit to insure anyway

 

yeye its on books as a 1.6 escort and i looked at insurance for that an it was 1500 and when i put with a bodykit on it was about the same cause thats all it really is.... how much should i offer tho im just wondering cheers for the replys

 

If I was you I would do things properly.
You can get into alot of trouble.
Your choice

 

another none insured car heading for the road----------------,blatantly !!!
will cost you some grief if you hit someone and kill them
but if you to go this way give some details!!
reg -----etc etc-lol

 

maybe on the book as a 1600cc, but not a 1.6 turbo

and i bet its way more than 1500 with the kit, engine, wheels, suspension, i bet its nearer the 2.5k mark for your age and more

 

alright cheers anyway ..

 

It looks like a money pit to be honest and insuring it with the rs engine would be crazy money. That kit looks thrown on to be honest-and the passenger wing is a diff colour-probably a lot of tales under that kit waiting to be told. If you had access to a workshop why not have a look tho its better to spend a few sponds on that than be out drinking cans etc.

You'd want to change the engine back to original to save hassle with insurance and police , sell on the rs turbo gear and budget for a full respray+Wrc bumper to tidy it up. But anything is possible if you do it right. Whats he lookin for it?

You'll probably find a better rep for sensible money when you consider wat needs doing to that one.

Oh and the whole rep debate is raging on here at present

 

thanks for taking time mate... ye ive been looking for a 1.4 or 1.3 mk5 escort but there like gold dust cant find them for nowt ive got places to get the kit from and all that but im just getting desperate now lol.. i was gonna get a mk6 and buy mk5 bits for it and try sorting one that way cause stevecosy has told me a few bits hes been really helpful.. i no reps are gay in most peoples opinion but i just love them so its something ive wanted to do since i was like 12 .. thanks for taking the time lads... if anyones got any ideas were there is a 1.4 escort and could get some bits would be really helpful cheers

 

dont do it , it doesnt look nice imo ,

spend the money on somethin cheaper to insure solid that aint gonna let u down (rules out ford) , ur 17 , u got yrs to get a cossie , dont go rep route u wont feel good as u know it aint real !!!! couple of yrs no claims makes a big diff

HTH ,

Scott

 

that looks pretty goddamn awful to be honest, and assuming your gonna declare the engine (cos your not gonna drive uninsured are you!!!), then why not get a proper RSTurbo instead?

 

I know your all excited and keen, but trust the advise people have given here.

Alot of us me included have worked our way up the ford tree, right from the 1.3 escort to a real escort cosworth and everything inbetween. So we know what we are doing!

For christs sake save your money, if you buy this all you will do is spend £1000'sss and you will never get it back. Not to mention everyone, including your mates will probably laugh or be embarrased to be with you.

Im not trying to be horrible, weve all been there, 17, new licence and lots and lots of enthuasium! And weve all learnt from out mistakes.

Theat rep is gna need easily £500 just to get it on the road and probably at least £1000 to make it half passable. not to mention the £2000 to insure it with the rts engine.

DO your self a favour, if your really hooked on the RS cars then just buy an Rs turbo.
It will be quicker
Its the real deal (not a wanabe)
It will probably be cheaper to insure
And
You can quite safley sell it for the same price you paid for it.


Credibility wise id say your mates would look up to you more and the girls would find you more attractive in a standard 1.0L fiesta then a escos rep!

 

couldnt have put it better my self

you could always get urself a 1.1 fester and a rs turbo, drive the 1.1 round get some no clam's bonus behind you while you tidy the rs turbo up

 

lol ye cheers mate i know im rushing into it ive been looking at fiesta rst and xr2i as well as escort rst but do you have an opinion of a 1st car that it a nice little car to start off in thanks mate ... i am definetly lostening to you guys your like the gods to me now cheers

 

yea mate i'v got a mk5 and to turn it into a cossie rep is basically leading yourself into being called the town plonker, except some people that have no idea i'e boy racers, and that don't understand what sort weight you have added to the car to make it look like something it isn't, you will be gutted when your cossie rep comes along next to some real cossie and you've the misses in the car as he burns you off the lights whilst pointing and laughing at you, not a good feeling trust me, or taking it to meet's and every one asking you to pull the bonnet up and see there's nothink there.

and i'm not exactly the most innocent of people but do admit it isn't a good choice having a turbo as your first car you will crash, i put money on that, if your good at driving or not, and god forbid you kill your passenger, witch i've seen a lot of round by me, like last sunday someone's passenger was killed from speeding and hitting black ice, my advice is look for a nice mk5 1.3 x-flow is going to be the best on your insurance, and you will find one it's just having to look your bollocks off and putting up with the fact you might have to travel a distance to find the car you want, then stick xr3i interior or even recaro's from the rs2000 you'll have a lot more respect for that than turning it into a fiberglass pig.

oh yea watch for the floor's on them cos they rot like fook round by the foot well at the edges of the front along the sill and by the chassi members are really common for rusting, and also the rear arches aswell

 

yea mate i'v got a mk5 and to turn it into a cossie rep is basically leading yourself into being called the town plonker, except some people that have no idea i'e boy racers, and that don't understand what sort weight you have added to the car to make it look like something it isn't, you will be gutted when your cossie rep comes along next to some real cossie and you've the misses in the car as he burns you off the lights whilst pointing and laughing at you, not a good feeling trust me, or taking it to meet's and every one asking you to pull the bonnet up and see there's nothink there.

and i'm not exactly the most innocent of people but do admit it isn't a good choice having a turbo as your first car you will crash, i put money on that, if your good at driving or not, and god forbid you kill your passenger, witch i've seen a lot of round by me, like last sunday someone's passenger was killed from speeding and hitting black ice, my advice is look for a nice mk5 1.3 x-flow is going to be the best on your insurance, and you will find one it's just having to look your bollocks off and putting up with the fact you might have to travel a distance to find the car you want, then stick xr3i interior or even recaro's from the rs2000 you'll have a lot more respect for that than turning it into a fiberglass pig.

oh yea watch for the floor's on them cos they rot like fook round by the foot well at the edges of the front along the sill and by the chassi members are really common for rusting, and also the rear arches aswell

 

if you really must buy this and have it on the road, then declaring the turbo conversion is a necessity!

and if it helps, contact CIS (co-op) for the insurance, as for some reason, they insure cars purely on the cc, not the aspiration, so whether its 1.6 n/a or 1.6 turbo, the price will b the same. still going to sting u being a 1.6 and being so young, but still cheaper than eslewhere will quote u for a turbo

and before anybody starts stamping their feet and demanding that im wrong, i assure u that im not. i was with CIS from 17 wen mine was 1.3, and when i converted it, i declared the 1.6 turbo, and they put 1600 turbo on my insurance docs, but cudnt physically charge me any more than merely being 1.6 lol

 

thanks mate this is top advice thanks for all the help im just looking around now for another car but dont know what to go for i want to make it look really nice and unique tho if you get me cause im a sort of unique kind of person lol
thanks mate

 

well said that man. just work your way through cars, starting small

i started with an A reg polo 1.3 coupe, and have been all the way to an Evo

 

ha i work at co-op and get 15% off car insurance i think will check with my boss tomorow thanks mate im just looking around for another car at the mo i found a nice one but i want some peoples opinions on a good first car cheers mate

 

Its a bit of a crap rep.The front wheels never look right.

 

get something shit for your first car.
statistics say that you WILL crash it!

buy a cheap runaround and save your money till you can insure an rs turbo or something. it sucks... but its worth the wait.

 

Im glad your listening to us, It may be hard to realise your "dream" is not what you wanted, but believe us we are only thinking of your hard earned cash here!

I wouldn't choose a Fiesta rst, they can be more expensive than a cossie to insure at your age! And its hard to find a clean rust free example these days

If it has to be Rs the a cheap Series 2 escort is buy far the best bet, its the most common, so parts are readily available and plentiful. And they can look smart in totally stantard form.

Best thing you can do i think is go and get some insurance quotes before you make any decisions, as this will probably be your main deciding factor.

What is intresting is you mentioned XR2.

This buy far i think would be your best bet. If you can hold out a few years for an Rs, it will be a much better plan in the long run.

If i was you id buy either an Xr2,Xr2i or Xr3i. If you fancy tinkering with it then you could try putting it back to as near factory standard as possible.
ie, get some original wheels, source original radio etc.

So not only are you enjoying your car, your adding to its value come resale time and also there are not many cooler things than retro fords in standard trim.

Even if you look at the rs turbos and cosworths you will notice a subtlle trend where people are moving back to wards standard, ie putting the original orange indicator lenses on, original wheels back on. its the way foward!!

 

ye thanks again... ive been looking at some mk4 escort as well the 1.3 ones they look quite nice i like the look of the xr2 and the older escorts as well im just looking around now thanks for all the help mate much appreciated

 

no prob's i would of found you and laughed if you brought that car lol but jokes aside i'm sure everyone on here will agree, if you want to be unique then look for a mk1 or mk2 esco or fiesta you will get so much respect for that and will be one of nearly no one at 17 to have one, oh yeah and classic insurance so cheapy! cheapy!, if you get a escort it'll be rear wheel drive aswell (DRIFT ) and i'm sure they did do smaller engines than the rs1600 or 2000 my mate had one, i think it was a 1100/1300 or something like that and he said it was really good fun to drive, but be prepared for something unique you will pay the price, or have a bit of a restoration on your hand's but it's all part of learning i suppose

 

I started of with a xr2i, I turned it back to orginal condition. I progressed up the ladder to a s2, S1, Frst, 3dr
I was 17 then
some pics

 

ye thanks mate im just looking around for either an original mk1/2 escort or a xr2 fiesta at the mo theyve took my fancy whats a good classic insurance site and would it be loads cheaper than something like norwich union for example.. thanks burnzy..

 

thats nice mate similar to something im looking for how much did you pay for that? cheers

 

I took of my Old man 3 owners from new 70.000 miles
Sold it for £1,500

If you look you will find nice examples

 

Not to keen on cossy reps i think some of the reps give real cossies a bad name cause there are so many bad ones out there, and that is one of them

 

honestly? you can get a rs for your first car?

or even xr??

 

Of course you can
If you earn you money and save.
Or your Lucky for it to be given to you.

 

i'v not gone down the classic route myself yet, so couldn't give you any advice on that but, i'm sure if you put up another post on the forum saying good classic insurers or something along those lines, you will get a good response, but with any classic car you pay no road tax or very little, don't quote me on that lol, i'm sure someone with a classic will help you with all the pro's and con's, but you'll struggle for the right people to look at a cossie rep post as you've found out lol,

and yes much cheaper cant remember why, my old man keep's saying but i'm sticking with my mk5 for the mo , it will have a turbo in it eventually but will leave it looking standard, so when i get the boy racer next to me and he rev's his engine thinking he's got a chance, i can point and laugh at him lol as i burn off, now that's how you want to do it mate, and your misses will prob's shag your brains out after, or even invite a female friend you never know lol

but like we've said your only 17 so don't run before you can walk, if you've a smaller engined car, when you eventually make a mistake and take it off road, it wont be as bad as if you had something really quick and gone into the tree's at like 50, you can imagine the mess yourself.

 

anyone want to give me a job lol

 

Theres a few guys on here that had saff cossies as their first cars!!

 

think Jimbo is paying silly amount of dollar on his mk5 Ecort & that is only a 1.4 cvh


save your penny's, get something that will get you to A too B for a year or so then get something abit better

 

tbh i see nothing at all wrong with a good replica.

It's the shit one's that spoil it,
I was looking at buying one and putting a zetec turbo in it.

As there is no way i could justify the cos for a daily drive.

Love escos's hate the cost easy as, where as the rep is the look without the cost.
The one i was looking at was mint full ford fitted/painted bodykit and original panel's. Full escos interior and tbh without getting on your hand's and knee's it passed as 1.

But, end of day it's only an escort and the money needed to be spent on it to get it where i wanted it to be was pointless.