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Old 01-01-2009, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Rs500 Registrar
If your unsure of any rules mate , feel free to ask any committee member or failing that please feel free to ask me ,or most members and im sure they will either tell you the answer or find out for you its not hard mate , IF YOU ARE BOTHERED ,
thanks for the assist there mate , seems to me like you need to be nearer the top of the group coz you have been more help than others ,,,,
Old 01-01-2009, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by bigjim172000
What parts do the RSOC get made? any for cossies?
All that has stopped mate due to the parts they did sort not selling , and the public liability issues with having parts remanufactured made it impossible to do at a reasonable price

People like ford have parts made by the ten"s of thousands so can have them made for pennies , when you try to get stuff made in small amounts it just becomes far to expensive

At least they tried
Old 01-01-2009, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Rs500 Registrar
All that has stopped mate due to the parts they did sort not selling , and the public liability issues with having parts remanufactured made it impossible to do at a reasonable price

People like ford have parts made by the ten"s of thousands so can have them made for pennies , when you try to get stuff made in small amounts it just becomes far to expensive

At least they tried

plus they done the wrong parts imho!i mean doing rouse body kits etc

would of sold alot more if they done the normal sapp door moulding(bump strips) etc
Old 01-01-2009, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by skrats
thanks for the assist there mate , seems to me like you need to be nearer the top of the group coz you have been more help than others ,,,,

Anytime mate Im always willing to help a fellow RSOC member .

I hope you sort these issues ( im sure you will) and your group is asked back into the main club as every member counts

Hope to see you and your group at the shows in 2009
Old 01-01-2009, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by BRAMMER
Been with the club for 2 years, got into the local group and made dozens of genuine friends so that alone is worth the annual subs.

Love the mag, yes it's only 20-30 pages but still an interesting read.

Peoples views on the club vary to what they actually want from it, i think over the last 24 months the committee have made some very good decisions to help the members and last year national day was the best i'd been to for a few years and it's back at donno in September 2009 too
got to agree with you mate done the exact same joined the local club and am a fully paid up member of the rsoc and since joining ma local club have attented many events and had a great laugh with the group , what its all about and also look forward to attending many shows this year aswell both in scotland and england
Old 01-01-2009, 11:19 AM
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I joined the club last year at national day,and i agree its what you make it.I just steer clear of all the arguing etc and just enjoy it,the forums quiet but theres some decent people on there who love there RS,s and thats all that matters to me.At least its not full of people slagging cossies and rs turbo,s all the time
Old 01-01-2009, 11:20 AM
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I won't be joining again, mainly because it just wasn't for me, I've been a member of Vauxhall car clubs in the past, and it's a totally different vibe with them (dare I say less serious)

My only real gripe about the club is the fact it seems to be stuck in the dark ages when it comes to the online side, eg you can't join over the net, no online shop, takes forever for someone to activate your membership status on the forum etc.

I actually really enjoyed Rallye news for what it's worth though.

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Old 01-01-2009, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
plus they done the wrong parts imho!i mean doing rouse body kits etc

would of sold alot more if they done the normal sapp door moulding(bump strips) etc
I in a way agree , But fibreglass parts is easy to sort and not expensive as there are thousands of people who can do it

the mouldings tho need to go to a specialised company who again need massive volumes to even think about tooling for the job .
Old 01-01-2009, 11:21 AM
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Ive joined a local group and renewed a couple of times but will not be renewing this year as I have no interest at all in them anymore. I have only been once recently, in June I think it was, to renew and have not bothered since. I visited a few local groups and not one seem interesting anymore. Shame really as I love the shows and love the cars just as said before its waaay too ploitical, what happened to like minded people sittin in the pub now an then having a bit crack about their cars and havin a laugh. I will not be joining in the forseeable future unfortunately.
Old 01-01-2009, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Rs500 Registrar
I in a way agree , But fibreglass parts is easy to sort and not expensive as there are thousands of people who can do it

the mouldings tho need to go to a specialised company who again need massive volumes to even think about tooling for the job .
true!shame ford did not offer the rsoc a bulk buy of these sort of parts when they stopped producing the parts
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Originally Posted by monkey nutz
I won't be joining again, mainly because it just wasn't for me, I've been a member of Vauxhall car clubs in the past, and it's a totally different vibe with them (dare I say less serious)

My only real gripe about the club is the fact it seems to be stuck in the dark ages when it comes to the online side, eg you can't join over the net, no online shop, takes forever for someone to activate your membership status on the forum etc.

I actually really enjoyed Rallye news for what it's worth.

Thats a shame mate I think the club is looking at more active ideas for the web tho , ie , online membership etc so you never know it may be dragged into the 20th century

to be honest tho , i prefer to make a quick call to emma in the office and job done no real problem unless your hands are glued to your keyboard
Old 01-01-2009, 11:29 AM
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I joined our group maybe 2 yeras ago same day R5cos joined.
Dont really make many meetings but happy to pay menbership and will do in a week or two at our Agm.
Nice to meet and chat like minded people who are only to willing to offer advice.
Hopefully we might get to national day this year.
Old 01-01-2009, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Rs500 Registrar
Thats a shame mate I think the club is looking at more active ideas for the web tho , ie , online membership etc so you never know it may be dragged into the 20th century

to be honest tho , i prefer to make a quick call to emma in the office and job done no real problem unless your hands are glued to your keyboard
That's a fair point mate, and every time I've dealt with Emma (orders etc) she's been ultra helpful, the only problem is when you order stuff she has to call you back in the evening, which is obviously hassle for her. It's just I'm shocked at how long it's taken for the guys to sort out the online side, (I don't suppose it's cheap though)

Now with the new RS looming, there are a lot of younger drivers out there, who aren't clued up on the RS' history, who won't have heard of the club before (they are out there - lots too) but who will be likely to want to join up with fellow enthusisasts and they just won't tolerate a club with no real internet connectivity (save for the forum) and will probably head for somewhere where there is.
Old 01-01-2009, 11:54 AM
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been a member for 7yrs now,i find it very good stuff like the discount for 3yrs,the mag is excellent quality many good articles and finish is bob on (compare it to other owners club mags and it v good)

what about the discounted tyre deal they have at the moment and the loads of parts that were bought for members

went to my first national day on the 3dr registrars stand very friendly folk,never been one for showing my car before just park up n wander,much better at donno (rockingham) tho i understand donno is more expensive,you cant blame the commitee last year for trying to save some money
Old 01-01-2009, 11:57 AM
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my memebrship runs for another year and after that i will re-new again for another 3 years at the end of the day its not alot of money compared to what we spend on our cars, and ive always had plenty of help form the rsoc with info and valuations on my 500's
Old 01-01-2009, 12:38 PM
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Even if it goes up to 40 quid its not even 4 quid a month so i cant really see peoples problem saying it costs too much,why do people join if they expect the fee back in other ways lol. Think ya join the club for the interest of the rs not the politics behind the club
Old 01-01-2009, 12:45 PM
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I`ll be renewing my membership, as peeps say it`s fk all money compared to what we spend on our beloved RS`s every year. I spend much more than the renewal on polish never mind out else. Keeps the club going aswel
Old 01-01-2009, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
this is my problem i have no local group anymore middlesex is slowly getting going again but its too far away for me by the time i get home from work
ive been a member 4 the last 3years but ive just decided 2 put my mint 3door up 4 sale and i mean mint it was featured in octobers fast ford ime looking 4 a track car now not shure weather to strip her or notso there will be no need 4 me 2 renew

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Old 01-01-2009, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by skrats
i will still join my local group and love my rs,s( even though we have been banned from attending any rsoc branded shows for the time being ) but until something changes at the top i will not be joining
I think you will find that you will stop being recognised by the club so cannot go to National Day, hold your own regeional day, or be supported by the club (i.e. details in RN etc). What it doesn't stop you from doing imo is arrending regional days as a group, so its not all shows.

I have to confess to being one of those local group representatives that unanimously voted to out the other groups that hadn't attended for the past 3 years. I see it as my responsibility to know the rules and to chose to adhere to them. Its not just the non-attendence but you also have an input at the lgm as to how the club is run. How can you moan about the club if you show no want to have an input?

I have a feeling that the local group rules may have been published in RN before??
Old 01-01-2009, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by biscuittin
i renewed my membership last year so i can do the track days mainly for croft as is well done and good value for money
but if membership is Ł40 this year to renew i wont be bothering
as i dont have a ford now any way

you tight sod, a man with your money...
Old 01-01-2009, 01:21 PM
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Does the RSOC not have the rule that to be covered on the club's public liability insurance on any stand whether it be a national or regional day, you have to be a member of the club?
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Originally Posted by Kieron
I think you will find that you will stop being recognised by the club so cannot go to National Day, hold your own regeional day, or be supported by the club (i.e. details in RN etc). What it doesn't stop you from doing imo is arrending regional days as a group, so its not all shows.

I have to confess to being one of those local group representatives that unanimously voted to out the other groups that hadn't attended for the past 3 years. I see it as my responsibility to know the rules and to chose to adhere to them. Its not just the non-attendence but you also have an input at the lgm as to how the club is run. How can you moan about the club if you show no want to have an input?

I have a feeling that the local group rules may have been published in RN before??
Sorry this is EXACTLY why I won't join the RSOC, what a fucking stupid thing to do ... Because ONE or TWO people don't attend the AGM for various reasons, you see fit to punish the WHOLE of a regional group, most of whom are payed up members? .... Stupid stupid stupid!!! And the RSOC wonder why membership is in decline??

And I have no connection to this group, just an outsider perspective
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Who voted those officials in? Yes, the local group members! So they have elected them to run their group, and run their group they should.

Also it doesn't have to be one of the committee that goes, just a representative so those punished members could have gone themselves if they were that worried. This has happened 3 years on the trot now, its not a one of.
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Originally Posted by Kieron
Who voted those officials in? Yes, the local group members! So they have elected them to run their group, and run their group they should.

Also it doesn't have to be one of the committee that goes, just a representative so those punished members could have gone themselves if they were that worried. This has happened 3 years on the trot now, its not a one of.
Sorry you are right, people should drop what they are doing last second, drive hundreds of miles to the AGM on behalf of the group chairman who might have only been in the role for a year, due to his non attendance because of a family situation. As this has happened then everyone else in the group who has payed for thier membership, perhaps for three years, should loose their benefits of being in the club.

But you are right, sorry
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Its alright saying go to agm's etc but what happens wiv the clubs that live hundreds of miles away.? People who work or people who cant actually justify putting petrol to travel hundreds of miles to attend a meeting?
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I am sure someone from a branch would be interested enough in attending to represent the group even if the branch secretarys couldnt?
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More than one person is allowed to represent. Might have been advisable given the fact that they were sent a letter last year and one this year stating that if they did not attend then they would be outed. You are allowed to miss 1 year but 3 is taking the piss.

Feel free to make a sarcatic response to that but tbh they only have themselves to blame. No point in ranting now its done with your shitty ifs and buts.
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
this is my problem i have no local group anymore middlesex is slowly getting going again but its too far away for me by the time i get home from work
dont worry dougie boy we have the new UKFORDOC north london regional meet starting up next month so hopefully that will satisfy your taste buds matey.

personally i have not owned an RS yet (i know sad isn't it) but if i ever did get one i'd like to join the RSOC because of the prestigious fact of the club aswell as the knowledge and social side.
but one thing that does put me off is where people constantly slate it so it does not give the perfect vibe for new or young RS owners to come and join shame really
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Originally Posted by B16ROB
dont worry dougie boy we have the new UKFORDOC north london regional meet starting up next month so hopefully that will satisfy your taste buds matey.

personally i have not owned an RS yet (i know sad isn't it) but if i ever did get one i'd like to join the RSOC because of the prestigious fact of the club aswell as the knowledge and social side.
but one thing that does put me off is where people constantly slate it so it does not give the perfect vibe for new or young RS owners to come and join shame really

welcome sir rob!
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
welcome sir rob!
why thank you douglas lol
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although i would like too say that the 2 registrars that i have spoken too have been of great help that being paul on here (500 registrar)when i was interested in buying a black 500 you had for sale last year and marc the sapp registrar also off great help getting my car valued and getting me on the 20th stand!although i can not understand him on the phone rather strong scots accent!


And emma is always helpful
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Originally Posted by B16ROB
why thank you douglas lol

and hows you on this crappy new years day?
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not bad thank you fella getting prepared to do a days work in an hours time mate lol

hows you fella happy new year to ya and the family

i better stop spamming now before i get told off lmao oooops
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Originally Posted by Kieron
More than one person is allowed to represent. Might have been advisable given the fact that they were sent a letter last year and one this year stating that if they did not attend then they would be outed. You are allowed to miss 1 year but 3 is taking the piss.

Feel free to make a sarcatic response to that but tbh they only have themselves to blame. No point in ranting now its done with your shitty ifs and buts.
You are missing the point by a country mile ... a letter was sent, to one person I would imagine? So for one persons failure the "RSOC" see it fit to deny lots of payed up members of the benefits of their membership?

It seems to me that the RSOC is run by its members for the benefit of a few peoples egos, the Escort Cosworth registra has been asked to step aside as he does sweet FA, by a lot of people, but nothing will be done until 2009 AGM, yet a whole regional group is ousted for not attending an AGM? ...

Again from an outsiders point of view, I have no loyalties either way, so it dosn't really bother me, it just shocks me that people can be so blind and wonder why people are not renewing or starting membership
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
Sorry you are right, people should drop what they are doing last second, drive hundreds of miles to the AGM on behalf of the group chairman who might have only been in the role for a year, due to his non attendance because of a family situation. As this has happened then everyone else in the group who has payed for thier membership, perhaps for three years, should loose their benefits of being in the club.

But you are right, sorry
Thanks . i suppose in a funny way it is what i was trying to say !!!
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iv been a member for 15 years now and havent even owned a rs for the last 5 of them and now im a member of the mlr as well cause i now own a evo, but i still keep joining for sum reason hoping 1 day ford will bring out a car worth owning and i'll be able to show my support and interest that i did for 10 years when the rs cars they made were worth owning,i still attend the odd show now and then seeing old faces and looking what cars are on the go.So i st6ill keep paying my money and expect nowt in return only my magazine....................................
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i find it much easyer looking in from the outside iv just bought my first rs

well first whole car lol

& will own it for about 2 or 3 days while it gets pulled to bits

it just seems to me a lot of the members have joined just so they can attend national day

iv atenede a couple of the local meets as i know a lot of the people from the surounding local clubs & they seem to political & not about the cars

glenn & andy orgonise the all ford meets at scotch corner & that is all about people getting together & having a good afternoon chatting about cars

i will probably never join the club but it dosent stop me getting to the ford shows
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
You are missing the point by a country mile ... a letter was sent, to one person I would imagine? So for one persons failure the "RSOC" see it fit to deny lots of payed up members of the benefits of their membership?

It seems to me that the RSOC is run by its members for the benefit of a few peoples egos, the Escort Cosworth registra has been asked to step aside as he does sweet FA, by a lot of people, but nothing will be done until 2009 AGM, yet a whole regional group is ousted for not attending an AGM? ...

Again from an outsiders point of view, I have no loyalties either way, so it dosn't really bother me, it just shocks me that people can be so blind and wonder why people are not renewing or starting membership

No wil , its you that is missing the point

The LGM , and AGM , is somthing that the RSOC has a LEGAL obligation to hold
The reason this rule was put in place i would presume is 1, to actually make sure people did actually attend, and 2, so that because they did attend they had a say in how the club was/ is run and therfore nobody can do what you lot seem to do and just blame the committee everytime somthing your personaly dont like happens

This rule isnt hard to abide to , your local group knows that they are expected to send AT LEAST 1 person to attend , so its simple ( as our group does ) months before the LGM we ask who would like to attend , were are lucky because we always get plenty of people saying yes as our group is intrested in how the club is run , IF NOT , then all you do is send your appologies , NOT ROCKET SCIENCE IS IT ,

You dont even have to attend , just send an appology but some groups cant even be arsed to do that , and you usually find that its these same groups that moan and moan about how the club is run and yet cant be arsed to turn up and have there say

As for moaning that its hundreds of miles away , so what do we do , Hold it in your local pub and fuck everyone else ?
Its the same for 90% of groups , yet 90% always attend , its 1 / 2 days of your life FFS , and you also miss out on a good sat night pissup round derby ,lol,

REMEMBER , THEY WERE VOTED OUT BY OTHER PAYING RSOC MEMBERS , NOT THE COMMITTEE

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Originally Posted by blacky.
i find it much easyer looking in from the outside iv just bought my first rs

well first whole car lol

& will own it for about 2 or 3 days while it gets pulled to bits

it just seems to me a lot of the members have joined just so they can attend national day

iv atenede a couple of the local meets as i know a lot of the people from the surounding local clubs & they seem to political & not about the cars

glenn & andy orgonise the all ford meets at scotch corner & that is all about people getting together & having a good afternoon chatting about cars

i will probably never join the club but it dosent stop me getting to the ford shows
hope you dont include me in that bud,have been a member as said for 7yrs been going to shows for a lot longer than that,just coincidence that the first one i get involved in is national day following a call from the 3dr registrar for more cars,i thought bugger it i`ll put my name down and go.

has given me the impetus to sort my car out and get it into more shows

have only just joined pf recentley and enjoy its banter etc,would like to meet the folk on here at shows and put a face to a name,also would go on the rsoc forum more but it is very slow,but i still do from time to time
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Originally Posted by Rs500 Registrar
No wil , its you that is missing the point

The LGM , and AGM , is somthing that the RSOC has a LEGAL obligation to hold
The reason this rule was put in place i would presume is 1, to actually make sure people did actually attend, and 2, so that because they did attend they had a say in how the club was/ is run and therfore nobody can do what you lot seem to do and just blame the committee everytime somthing your personaly dont like happens

This rule isnt hard to abide to , your local group knows that they are expected to send AT LEAST 1 person to attend , so its simple ( as our group does ) months before the LGM we ask who would like to attend , were are lucky because we always get plenty of people saying yes as our group is intrested in how the club is run , IF NOT , then all you do is send your appologies , NOT ROCKET SCIENCE IS IT ,

You dont even have to attend , just send an appology but some groups cant even be arsed to do that , and you usually find that its these same groups that moan and moan about how the club is run and yet cant be arsed to turn up and have there say

As for moaning that its hundreds of miles away , so what do we do , Hold it in your local pub and fuck everyone else ?
Its the same for 90% of groups , yet 90% always attend , its 1 / 2 days of your life FFS , and you also miss out on a good sat night pissup round derby ,lol,

REMEMBER , THEY WERE VOTED OUT BY OTHER PAYING RSOC MEMBERS , NOT THE COMMITTEE
The point I am making is Paul, I appreciate exactly what you are saying and agree in principle... BUT>

1) Why does the whole group suffer due to the chairman not sorting it out? I would wager that most members didn't even know there was a problem
2) Do you not see this as damaging to the whole point of the RSOC?


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