Calling all engine experts!
I previously posted about water entering chambre number 3, and spraying from the exhaust exit of the head.
I have just removed the head to try and discover the fault, and have unveiled the following concerns.
I have noticed some scoring to bore number 3, and it is not common to all bores, and am worried as this is the chambre which had the fault.


Also, there is some distortion to the face of some of the valves, which i am unaware of what is causing this.

What do people recommend for these symptoms, and what is likely to have caused these problems.
I was expecting to find a crack in the head or some indication of head gasket failure, but have not found any evidence of either, however, i am aware there is the possibility of a crack inside the head that is not visible by eye and would require pressure testing.
Any help or comment much appreciated.
Cheers.
I have just removed the head to try and discover the fault, and have unveiled the following concerns.
I have noticed some scoring to bore number 3, and it is not common to all bores, and am worried as this is the chambre which had the fault.


Also, there is some distortion to the face of some of the valves, which i am unaware of what is causing this.

What do people recommend for these symptoms, and what is likely to have caused these problems.
I was expecting to find a crack in the head or some indication of head gasket failure, but have not found any evidence of either, however, i am aware there is the possibility of a crack inside the head that is not visible by eye and would require pressure testing.
Any help or comment much appreciated.
Cheers.
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poss clean the valves as i cant tell if its just carbon deposits? have you got pics of the other bores? it doesnt look like hone marks to me, was thier water in the bore?
the compression was strong and even across all four. Water would spray out from the head when revs rose, which im assuming was increasing the water pressure and possibly forcing water through crack, although im not 100% sure of this. I'm not ruling out the possibility of a failed gasket just yet.
all valves will look like that after a period of time; especially the exhaust valves
the bores dont look too bad to be honest (maybe a little scored); i thought it looked quite clean to be honest
has it recently been bored or honed?
you might well find a crack in the head but sometimes cracks are so small you cant spot them; only a test will prove either way
the bores dont look too bad to be honest (maybe a little scored); i thought it looked quite clean to be honest
has it recently been bored or honed?
you might well find a crack in the head but sometimes cracks are so small you cant spot them; only a test will prove either way
cheers for your help.
I am not currently with the car to take more pics, but will add more later.
The other bores did appear alot cleaner than this bore, this is why i was concerned. I dont beleive the bores have been machined for quite some time so they are not fresh machining marks.
The valves appear to have a bubbling affect on them, which looks like overheating expansion/distortion.
I am not currently with the car to take more pics, but will add more later.
The other bores did appear alot cleaner than this bore, this is why i was concerned. I dont beleive the bores have been machined for quite some time so they are not fresh machining marks.
The valves appear to have a bubbling affect on them, which looks like overheating expansion/distortion.
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looking at the score lines its clearly visable a few of them are higher than the top ring mark, so imo its been caused by the water washing all the dirt down between bore and piston.
how deep are they? the question is, are the rings damaged....the rings have defiantly caught the dirt, as you can see various height marks on the scores
if that was my engine i personally would, drop sump, remove pistons, de glaze bore, re ring pistons, replace big end shells
how deep are they? the question is, are the rings damaged....the rings have defiantly caught the dirt, as you can see various height marks on the scores
if that was my engine i personally would, drop sump, remove pistons, de glaze bore, re ring pistons, replace big end shells
Last edited by JTECH James; Nov 12, 2008 at 05:13 PM.
ive striped the head ready for a crack test i managed to get that crap of the valves i thought they were knacked eg slightly melted but it turned out just to be heavy deposits..
as for the bore the marks can't be felt by hand how much work is it to lift the engine out at this stage?
looks like the water washed the oil away leting the rings scratch...
who reacons rebuild?
as for the bore the marks can't be felt by hand how much work is it to lift the engine out at this stage?
looks like the water washed the oil away leting the rings scratch...
who reacons rebuild?
i did still have compression before i lifted the head on that cylinder does that mean the rings will be ok.... whats involved in geting the sump off on a 4x4 it looks a nightmare!!! the escort cossies are such a pain to work on compared to the saphs!!
you just need one of these tools; any half decent motor factors will stock them...i got mine for Camberleys..they look like this; just stick in on a drill
use some brake fluid on the blades and start gently; it will get rid of the scratches on the bores and bring it up like new
right off the top of my head.
jack it up, remove both wheels
remove both driveshafts including sump shaft
get the arb out the way
remove front diff
remove starter
disconnect rack/column joint and remove ps pump from engine with all hoses, so the rack and pump and hoses will come away with the crossmember
drop front crossmember, supporting under gearbox so the weight sits on the gearbox when the crossmember is dropped (blocks of wood)
when the crossmember is dropped, remove sump.
just a couple of hours mate
Last edited by JTECH James; Nov 12, 2008 at 08:13 PM.
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