cfoster

Hi all, does anyone know about these? I've been offered a minty miny mk3 Golf VR6 Wolfsburg edition (whatever that is!!) for a very good price which i'll probably buy until the right F150 turns up.

Before I do buy it are there anything to check on them? The thing looks absolutely mint, all original, full history and everything works!! Wasnt sure if there were anything common on them to fail (electrics?)

Chris

Oranoco

I'd be intrested to as I'm thinking about one if I can't find the right GTi.

Bit of a jump from the 1.4 Golf the missus originally had in mind though

cfoster

I should only be hopefully keeping for a very short while mate so hang on if you want!! The thing is immaculate!!!!

Chris

3FRD

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I've had a couple and things I've found to look out for are water pumps can leak, headgasket, wheel bearings, clutches, rust etc.

Very good cars though, Ive had no problems apart from a seeping water pump with mines.

Lee Ivatt

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usual mk3 faults, trim coming loose, problems with electrics are common but not serious. normally sidelight bulbs burn out quickly, due to too much voltage. and also some of the dash lights, mainly the heater dials will not illmninate.

Rust around lower rear 1/4s.

be careful if its lowered? My mate said her one was keen on letting the back end go.

Really its just a Gti with a v6 in it, good car, just not the sexiest looking golf.

Engine wise they are near bullet proof. The have a timing chain, which is also very strong, but the tensioner is what usually fails.

power (on mine OBD2 is about 205bhp) standard if its the later OBD2 engine is 195, and 175 on the earlier OBD1 engine. Its a lovley feeling, takjes some getting used to, especially if your used to a turbo. it pulls a constant band right round to the limiter. and the cam kicks in quite high up in the revs, ive been told buy many ownerd on forums that u have to rev it high to make the most of it which is not ideal.

The only think i dont like is the gearing ratios!! they really didnt think about them, quite often youll need to drop it to 2nd to overtake. maybe its cos im used to a turbo diesel, i dont know?
I have been told a lot of people use the 16v gti cogs and put them in the vr6 box.

Fuel, well its pretty much a 3ltr v6, so not forgiving.
THe beauty onf the car is, you can "taxi driver" it, ie, its will drive effortlessly in 5th gear from 20mph right up to 70. doesnt even complain.
also ive found using the torque of the engine, you can get quite a good return on the fuel.
But the biggest floor is the SOUND!!! its perfect only down side is when u get it to make the vr6 sound it costs money.
If driving with out regard for fuel then id say it is just as thirsty as my escort cossie was!!!

Heres my baby. Mk2 Gti 16v with Vr6 OBD2

cfoster

Excellent mate cheers for all that . I looked at it yesterday and really cant' believe how mint the car is. The chap (in his 50's) part ex'd it into VW for a new Jetta or something and my mate who's in sales got offered it at a very good price to which he snapped up!!

Love the look of your mk2 mate

Chris

BM08

Something nobody has mentioned(i dont think) gearbox, since most have done high miles.
Check that 1st, 2nd and reverse select smoothly and easily, a new box or repairing the currant one can be very expensive.

Thats the only problem i had with my mk3 16v gti

Muska

Timing chains need replacing around 100K, costs about £400ish parts and labour, listen for a slight ticking sound from timing side of the engine.

Kieron

ABS sensors are a common failure. The ABS light stays on and the fault can be a pig to trace.

Dicko&Vacant

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cracking cars, i loved my £300 vr6, the least amount of money ive spent on a decent car, shame i swapped it for the worlds worst fiesta RS turbo

Sarah

rallycross

look for oil leaks and worn front suspension

they are a big sponge of a car to drive on standard suspension much better if made a bit stiffer

angel24

Mk3's suffered with rust under the lower door rubber seal in the kick trim area. You will need to push the seal back slightly to see this.

CheeRS

Rich_w

Who told you that! I can only think of 1 engine thats ever had the Chain done. It was a Sharan. And thats in 10 years of VW.

Oh and BTW the chain is on the gearbox side not the "normal" number 1 piston end. So quite what listening at that end would show up Im not sure. A customer did ask once what the interval was and the answer according to VAG is "there isnt one" Chain is life of the car.

woodz77

"power (on mine OBD2 is about 205bhp) standard if its the later OBD2 engine is 195, and 175 on the earlier OBD1 engine. Its a lovley feeling, takjes some getting used to, especially if your used to a turbo. it pulls a constant band right round to the limiter. and the cam kicks in quite high up in the revs, ive been told buy many ownerd on forums that u have to rev it high to make the most of it which is not ideal."

i thought all VR6's were just over 174bhp ? i never knew there were 2 versions of the engine ? how do you know if the car has a OBD2 fitted . did it change on a certain year ? i had a N reg one . bloody loved it and one of the few cars i really missed after i sold it .

MATCOS

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VERY true

make sure the abs light comes on and then goes off when you switch the ignition on-many people take the bulb out and then it won't go through an MOT.

m3cosworth

handle crap compared to mk 1 and 2 even with uprated suspension, too front heavy!. got enuff umph tho. sound awesome with induction kit, best thing about them!
rust around door sills as mentioned.
worth the money!

woodz77

mine used to stay on when it was wet . after a day it would go out . weird lol

rostill2007

did the normal 8v gti have abs it is a 1992 car and the abs light has never been on as if running through self test but if it did it wouldnt be the first bodge ive found on the car

Oranoco

Well my thoughts of a VR6 have just been killed off. £440 to insure it for the year as opposed to £267 for a GTI 16v

James

handling may not to be everyones tastes but it's not that bad! ok it's not in the same field as a 205 gti/mk2 golf but it's a bigger better car with a heavier engine and more electrical toys!

p.s. i have never heard of vr6 wolfsburg edition! theres the highline which gets aircon and heated leather though in 2 colours, mulberry purple and black.

ANDYRACER

My old 97 mk3 golf gti 8v had abs.

Lee Ivatt

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sounds steep.

Ive got my quote through for next year on the modified/conversion MK2 gti VR6

age 25, clean licence, 5 ncb's

£250 for the year full comp!!

maybe you should shop around a bit!?

Anyway £440 aint that bad, works out to about £1.20 per day.
This last year my premium was £3200, now thas fucking expensive!!!

Kam B

...lee i still want your mk2

Oranoco

I pay that (£440) to insure my S2, which I don't mind as it's rapid. My A4 with the go faster bits declared is only just over £300

Muska

That doesn't really mean anything, just because you've only seen one doesn't mean it doesn't happen. A quick search of the VR6 owners club forum will confirm that many many have them changed and the recommended time is circa 100k, some have been done earlier though. I made a mistake on the side to listen for a noise, it's the drivers side and again on the VR6 owners club forum there is a sound clip so you can check. I believe the chains stretch over time and it's then replaced along with the guide rail & tensioners. I believe you are right though, VW offer no service interval time for the chains.
There is more info on:

http://www.vr6oc.com/news.php

Matt.

Lee Ivatt

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I told you make me an offer, everythings for sale

Would it help if i told you I reckon my vr6 is just as quick as my escort cossie was!

Ok not round the bends, and im in a mk2 shell with over 200bhp. But really the vr6 is a quick little car.

would give any "average" rst a run for its money.

Chris69

in a mk2 shell yes, in a mk3 shell i wouldn't say they where that rapid and most mildly tuned rsts would have no problem from my experiences in my near stock rst against my mates mk3 vr6.
The whole OBD 2 is 195/205 etc is a new one on me as well- his was OBD 2 and he was sure its was only approx 170bhp
he said it was better on fuel but find it hard to believe it had 25/30bhp over the OBD 1 cars

Lee Ivatt

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your thinking of the OBD2 2.8 in the golf

I have the OBD2 2.9 from the corrardo, and it also has some mild mods.

Chris69

ah i see, did the wolfsburg edition mk3 golf come with the 2.9 engine then?
just wondering as thats wot the question was about

Csm

Id like to know what wolfsburg edition is actually about ??

I have just bought a couple of wolfsburg badges for my bora to be a little different

CorradoVR6-Turbo

The VR motor is strong,but suffer bore wear and the top timing chain pad will need doing as with the chains after 100k,yes many go on longer than this with no trouble but are worn. You will need the box off to do the chains.

The golf came with the 2.8 obd1 in the early modles around 175bhp and the later obd2 have around 190 hp due to the managment.

all 2.9 corrados are obd1 and the vr in the mk2 is allot quicker than the mk3!

still a good car.

CorradoVR6-Turbo

http://everything2.com/e2node/Wolfsburg%2520Edition

Csm

Thanks for that .......By the time ive done my mods and added the badges i will get away with it as it really means nothing that special over standard