the post i never wanted to make...
15-10-2008, 06:12 PM
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the post i never wanted to make...
as most of you regulars know, ive built a nice spec engine for my saff using "the best" components i could afford to buy, and many were classed by lots of people as the best there is.
well, the motor was run in for 700 gentle miles, then taken to msd for a live map.
the first day went well, a few adjustments were made, ready for some light mapping on day 2.
i got a call mid morning..... engine failure, they thought a broken inlet cam....
when the rc was removed, the cams were ok.... so the head came off....
inlet valve seat has come out, and basicly killed the piston, head, bore.
the head was 700miles old from a very well respected company, and there is absolutly no doubt that the blame for my failure lies with them....luckily msd have the whole event on datalog.....because i rang the head company today, and apparently it got too hot.....bollocks did it....it was in second gear having light mapping done
so, im now in devon, with a dead car again, and its stuck in blackpool, im asking if anyone can help get her home? or have ideas how...
and what do i do now? im about to contact trading standards for advice, but i fear i will get screwed again...nobody in this world has any balls to admit liability these days
secondly, i must thank stu, kenny and wil at msd, the guys have been so helpfull over the last two days, i really appreciate your help guys, im so sorry for all this agro. i tried my best to make her good, but i guess it just wasnt to be...gutted,
well, the motor was run in for 700 gentle miles, then taken to msd for a live map.
the first day went well, a few adjustments were made, ready for some light mapping on day 2.
i got a call mid morning..... engine failure, they thought a broken inlet cam....
when the rc was removed, the cams were ok.... so the head came off....
inlet valve seat has come out, and basicly killed the piston, head, bore.
the head was 700miles old from a very well respected company, and there is absolutly no doubt that the blame for my failure lies with them....luckily msd have the whole event on datalog.....because i rang the head company today, and apparently it got too hot.....bollocks did it....it was in second gear having light mapping done
so, im now in devon, with a dead car again, and its stuck in blackpool, im asking if anyone can help get her home? or have ideas how...
and what do i do now? im about to contact trading standards for advice, but i fear i will get screwed again...nobody in this world has any balls to admit liability these days
secondly, i must thank stu, kenny and wil at msd, the guys have been so helpfull over the last two days, i really appreciate your help guys, im so sorry for all this agro. i tried my best to make her good, but i guess it just wasnt to be...gutted,
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15-10-2008, 06:26 PM
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just looked at who your head was done by. seems to be the second horror story in only a few weeks from one of there heads. to be honest your head dose looks a bit thin in your resto pics. do you know what thickness it is as i've heard at under 138.6mm they have a tendency of dropping valve seats
15-10-2008, 06:28 PM
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as said last night mate totally gutted for you
i used this guy to pick up a saph i bought 300miles away without even looking at it,i just told him the two postcodes and he picked up and cash on delivery
hes not a gypo,its a family buisness
07801226968
i used this guy to pick up a saph i bought 300miles away without even looking at it,i just told him the two postcodes and he picked up and cash on delivery
hes not a gypo,its a family buisness
07801226968
15-10-2008, 06:34 PM
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Bad news mate 
hope it gets sorted!
700 run in miles sounds a little low to me though, i'd personally want at least 300 more on it before I gave it some!
I Know that isnt the reason for the failure, just thought i'd mention it!
hope it gets sorted!700 run in miles sounds a little low to me though, i'd personally want at least 300 more on it before I gave it some!
I Know that isnt the reason for the failure, just thought i'd mention it!
15-10-2008, 06:38 PM
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running in is a thing of the 70's!!!!
15-10-2008, 06:43 PM
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Gutted for ya, and i KNOW where your coming from
The seat would fall out if the engine was standard or not, and if the company have changed the seats, then it´s a F***ING bad job done.
I hope you get it sorted m8, really do
The seat would fall out if the engine was standard or not, and if the company have changed the seats, then it´s a F***ING bad job done.
I hope you get it sorted m8, really do
15-10-2008, 06:45 PM
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If you want to cobble the car back together I've got a good 2wd head you can borrow?
I'm on the wirral, not mega far from Blackpool.
Absolutely gutted for you though mate
If you're still stuck for getting the car home by the weekend, a mate of mines got a flatbed, just spoken to him now and he could do it for you then, but you'd have to talk to him about cost.
I'm on the wirral, not mega far from Blackpool.
Absolutely gutted for you though mate
If you're still stuck for getting the car home by the weekend, a mate of mines got a flatbed, just spoken to him now and he could do it for you then, but you'd have to talk to him about cost.
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15-10-2008, 06:50 PM
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15-10-2008, 06:50 PM
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thanks guys, il be glad if someone has an idea of how to get her home, i dont want it stuck in stus way..,
i cant tow a trailer on my driving licence, which is a royal pain in the ass tbh,
i have a spare head here, but the piston is mangled to hell,
i have pics, i just dont know i want to look at them
i cant tow a trailer on my driving licence, which is a royal pain in the ass tbh,
i have a spare head here, but the piston is mangled to hell,
i have pics, i just dont know i want to look at them
15-10-2008, 06:52 PM
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However I am sure myself and Dan wouldn't mind going on a road trip if you did the hiring of the transportation
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15-10-2008, 06:57 PM
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As i've said to you on the phone mate, so sorry this has happened to you. One of the nicest saph engine bays i've worked in for a while. Everything was 'proper' and it had all the right ingredients to be a genuinely fast car.
Taking the head off last night was gutting
Taking the head off last night was gutting
15-10-2008, 07:01 PM
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15-10-2008, 07:01 PM
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As i've said to you on the phone mate, so sorry this has happened to you. One of the nicest saph engine bays i've worked in for a while. Everything was 'proper' and it had all the right ingredients to be a genuinely fast car.
Taking the head off last night was gutting
Taking the head off last night was gutting
15-10-2008, 07:02 PM
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as most of you regulars know, ive built a nice spec engine for my saff using "the best" components i could afford to buy, and many were classed by lots of people as the best there is.
well, the motor was run in for 700 gentle miles, then taken to msd for a live map.
the first day went well, a few adjustments were made, ready for some light mapping on day 2.
i got a call mid morning..... engine failure, they thought a broken inlet cam....
when the rc was removed, the cams were ok.... so the head came off....
inlet valve seat has come out, and basicly killed the piston, head, bore.
the head was 700miles old from a very well respected company, and there is absolutly no doubt that the blame for my failure lies with them....luckily msd have the whole event on datalog.....because i rang the head company today, and apparently it got too hot.....bollocks did it....it was in second gear having light mapping done
so, im now in devon, with a dead car again, and its stuck in blackpool, im asking if anyone can help get her home? or have ideas how...
and what do i do now? im about to contact trading standards for advice, but i fear i will get screwed again...nobody in this world has any balls to admit liability these days
secondly, i must thank stu, kenny and wil at msd, the guys have been so helpfull over the last two days, i really appreciate your help guys, im so sorry for all this agro. i tried my best to make her good, but i guess it just wasnt to be...gutted,
well, the motor was run in for 700 gentle miles, then taken to msd for a live map.
the first day went well, a few adjustments were made, ready for some light mapping on day 2.
i got a call mid morning..... engine failure, they thought a broken inlet cam....
when the rc was removed, the cams were ok.... so the head came off....
inlet valve seat has come out, and basicly killed the piston, head, bore.
the head was 700miles old from a very well respected company, and there is absolutly no doubt that the blame for my failure lies with them....luckily msd have the whole event on datalog.....because i rang the head company today, and apparently it got too hot.....bollocks did it....it was in second gear having light mapping done
so, im now in devon, with a dead car again, and its stuck in blackpool, im asking if anyone can help get her home? or have ideas how...
and what do i do now? im about to contact trading standards for advice, but i fear i will get screwed again...nobody in this world has any balls to admit liability these days
secondly, i must thank stu, kenny and wil at msd, the guys have been so helpfull over the last two days, i really appreciate your help guys, im so sorry for all this agro. i tried my best to make her good, but i guess it just wasnt to be...gutted,
I would recomend you finding a engineer to do a report on it and see if any of the head work could have disturbed the seat itself or the amount of porting/modding the seat caused the problem,
700miles is more than enought running in but this would not have affected the valve seat,
This opinion is from someone that has nothing to do with this engine so no bias has been shown.
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15-10-2008, 07:03 PM
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gutted
i,m pretty sure that if you are a member and your car is still taxed, then there should be no problem mate. might just have to explain when you call them that you,re a mechanic and that it,s an engine failure!
15-10-2008, 07:05 PM
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Hi mate - sorry to hear your woes... i move cars around and am a member here and on escort cosworth forum - I have a escos that i am putting together. I can give you a price to go and collect and run down to you mate, although as the distances are large unfortunately will cost ... but I am 100 genuine and very trustworthy and honest. not after work but if this helps at all...
Gary
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15-10-2008, 07:05 PM
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As you already no James im so gutted for you mate.. I know how much blood' sweet' and tears not to mention money you have put in to this car. Please don't get to disheartened mate im sure it will all work out. And i will give you all the help i can and it will only cost you a tub of clotted cream 
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and all this motorsport bollox.. This had naff all to do with motorsport in my eye's
Chin up mate
..and all this motorsport bollox.. This had naff all to do with motorsport in my eye's
Chin up mate