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Old 14-10-2008, 10:44 PM
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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XcVagNYIUfw

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9vpJhYHekJg

its a japanese gymkhana, i would love to have a go ,its against the clock and cheep motorsport.

does anybody do it or have done it ??? i have posted about this before and i can't understand why the o'l japanese gymkhana aka car park rallying doesn't take off considering the cars out there
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Isn't it pretty much autocross/autotesting?

Still looks fun though.
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They do stuff like that at North Weald, I done 2 last year in my Pulsar! Loads of fun!
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auto testing involves going backwards,auto cross iirc involves going accross field type surfaces, the jap gymkhana is done on a tarmac car park and only goes forwards and sideways,usually the distances are further apart and faster than auto testing.
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it surprises me why people with this sort of car don't do this type of motorsport,when the japs are well into it, i think i would have ago if there was a gymkhana competition, i have had wrx ra's that have done this type of motorsport in japan and it looks good to me. it would be ideal in a starlet turbo or evo rs/wrx ra etc
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Isn't hillclimbing/sprinting similar to this then? Albeit on a proper circuit rather than a car park and some cones.

Me and a few mates go sprinting at Barkston Heath every 4 - 6 weeks in a shared Pug 205 which costs us about Ł35 a round.........that's about as cheap as you're going to get I'd have thought. I'm sure there are plenty of Clubman type motorsports clubs that offer 'grass roots' motorsports events although as with anything that is FIA sanctioned it can cost a fair bit to get the car sorted for its blue book and kep it that way for scrutineering at every event..
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hill climbing is more dangerous cos of the trees and the cars do a lot higher speeds,sprinting i dunno.

i have seen wrx's hill climbing and it doesn't look as much fun tbh as the jap stuff.



here is a jap circuit race involving a few cars,check the old bastard in the evo 5 he goes around everything on the outside from the back to the front
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XIh_U6...eature=related

dave have you a link to the sprinting????? my mate has built a mk2 escort rally car he has decided is too good to rally and fancys hill climbing or sprinting
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It looks like a big slalom as we do here in holland only with donut drifting
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i think technically they don't drift as in drifting where its just like showing off to judges with another car on track, the car drifts/slides as the driver is going as fast as he can around the set course. i think it is called sprinting in this country

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XIh_U6...eature=related

so where can you sprint in the north west ??????????
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Fcking hell that cusco in the first link handles well, bet it would knock your fillings out on the road though
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watched it and just thought it was autotesting - just in a different language
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Originally Posted by cozzfather
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XcVagNYIUfw

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9vpJhYHekJg

its a japanese gymkhana, i would love to have a go ,its against the clock and cheep motorsport.

does anybody do it or have done it ??? i have posted about this before and i can't understand why the o'l japanese gymkhana aka car park rallying doesn't take off considering the cars out there
Love to drive my car away from speed camera's and in a safe surroundings so been doing trackdays since 1995,but that jap thing looks as boring as hell,is too slow and must be a tranmission breaker with all that 1st/2nd gear usage.Don't see the point.Regards,Micky
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Looks like fun.
If I had the money I'd probably buy myself a midget and go autotesting.

Does make you wander why more folk dont do this sort of thing though.
Buying evos and the like for daily road use is almost as daft as buying range rovers for the same task imho.
Makes you wonder what percentage of these type of cars ever see a track.

Maybe theres a nice little business opp for someone? Buy a large plot of land and some cones and charge folk to drive around it.
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Originally Posted by Micky
Love to drive my car away from speed camera's and in a safe surroundings so been doing trackdays since 1995,but that jap thing looks as boring as hell,is too slow and must be a tranmission breaker with all that 1st/2nd gear usage.Don't see the point.Regards,Micky

can't understand how you think that, its about cheep motorsport, this is what the japanese do,they have competitions,the sprinting i have seen does look more organised, track days involve loads of speed and barriers,in a big car park what is there to hit except a cone.

i used to think taking a rally derived car around a track was boring but each to their own and i don't mind it now i have tried it.

i have seen other jap gymkhanas where they are going quite fast
Old 15-10-2008, 04:11 PM
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as said looks like sprinting?
mlr has sprint days that look similar maybe just a bit longer than that.
heres a video from one they had at ingliston in edinburgh
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XYiEkM-AbCM
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that sprint looks more like a single venue rally which is somthing i have done.

i have seen loads of track day cars fitted with roll cages,harnesses,kevlar seats etc the idea of taking a jap road going rally derived car around a decent sized gymkhana event appeals to me.

this doesn't look "Borin" to me and doesn't look like autotesting either
http://video.google.co.uk/videosearc...ab=wv&start=10
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it looked a like trip to the shop in the wet for me i maybe proved wrong.the second vid,wow the set up of thats looks tight and good fun to drive.
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Originally Posted by cozzfather
that sprint looks more like a single venue rally which is somthing i have done.

i have seen loads of track day cars fitted with roll cages,harnesses,kevlar seats etc the idea of taking a jap road going rally derived car around a decent sized gymkhana event appeals to me.

this doesn't look "Borin" to me and doesn't look like autotesting either
http://video.google.co.uk/videosearc...ab=wv&start=10
Well you must be more easily pleased than me,but that bike thing was even more boring than the boring car stuff at the start of this topic!Christ,the bike never got out of 1st gear or went over 30 mph,and you think this is fun????I'll stick to me trackdays,at least I get into 5th gear!!Regards,Micky
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bike thing ???

sorry crap link, i am not interested in bike racing, the vid i was watching isn't the one i posted


try this...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_WwEdLdGkxw

proper jap gymkhana and right up a rally fans street, no trees,no barriers,and you can use your normal road car and the laps are about a minute so you don't fry brakes etc

heres another jap gymkhana,its slightly different than the other and looks like its on a kart track

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xmh9J9DtDXQ

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As already mentioned that is what would be classed as an Auto Slalom, did one a few years ago at the 3 Sisters Race course (outdoor go cart track).
Cost peanuts Ł30-40 and got lots of times runs around courses, no reversing as such.
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They do them at North Weald. In fact, im doing one tomorrow.
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It has been suggested that this article or section be merged into Autocross. (Discuss)Gymkhana is a type of motorsport practiced in Japan, the United States and the United Kingdom. Similar to autocross, Gymkhana courses are often very complex and memorizing the course is a significant part of achieving a fast time. The governing body of Gymkhana in Japan is the Japan Auto Federation, a Japanese division of the FIA.
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[edit] Gymkhana Courses

Gymkhana courses typically involve only the use of first and second gear, where autotesting in the UK and Ireland add the use of reverse gear. A Gymkhana course will typically be from 0:45 to 1:30 in length. Like autocross and autotesting, Gymkhana courses are laid out with cones representing "obstacles" to navigate through. Unlike autocross, which can be considered to be a small version of a road course, obstacles in Gymkhana will often consist of slaloms, 180 degree turns, 360 degree turns, figure eight turns and some times parking boxes. Gymkhana requires strong mental concentration and memorization of the track, as sections of the course frequently must be repeated or navigated backwards and or differently. The driver will use many techniques to effectively navigate a course. Handbrake technique, drifting and sliding and left foot braking are all necessary skills for Gymkhana.
Like autocross and autotesting, Gymkhanas are primarily held in open paved fields or parking lots. In Japan, small road courses and karting venues are sometimes used. Japan also has some facilities dedicated to Gymkhana which resemble large paved parking lots that sometimes have racetrack curbing and grass/dirt medians and islands.

[edit] Competition Format

As the JAF is a subsidiary of the FIA, FIA classing is used for Gymkhana in Japan. Gymkhana courses may be used for an entire year, unlike autocross and autotesting where drivers are presented with a new course for each event. Gymkhana participants are allowed two runs of the course, with the fastest time being used to determine the winner of a class. Time penalties are issued for hitting cones, and a failure to navigate the course correctly results in no time score.

[edit] National Structure

Gymkhana in Japan has a well-defined competition structure, with everything from local to national competitions. Drivers can compete in official events locally in order to qualify for regional events and so on. Japan has an All Japan Gymkhana competition each year. Despite being governed under the FIA in Japan, there is no official international gymkhana competition at this time. Drivers in official events may be required to hold a JAF-issued competition license

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i would but the B10 isn't really suited to that sort of thing
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