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Old 15-10-2008 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by dickycox
Was going to trade my 08 plate st 2 for another its six months old and they recon about 12500 to 13000 thats takin the piss.Theres no way id let it go for that so think ill keep it another 4 monthes and try a private sale cheers,ps this is not a for sale thread id just like youre opinions cheers.
I'm surprised you're surprised. That's sounds like a typical trade-in deal to me.
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We've got a mint 6,000 miler 06 st-2 in stock,, not had a sniff on it,,, so gonna tax it and run it myself
Old 15-10-2008 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Lee Ivatt
Balls, if you can afford a performance motor say (focus RS) over a standard one (1.8 zetec or whatever) then, i dont think an extra £200 over the course of a year is a big deal.

yes its not right and not fair and totally wrong of the government, but if you cant afford the extra £17ish tax per month you probably shouldnt have bought the car in the 1st place.
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Old 15-10-2008 | 01:28 PM
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The mpg puts alot of ppl off i had mine not even 3 months & sold it it was crap on fuel.
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as a comparison I sold my focus rs 4 months ago. I bought it for 17.5k 4 years later I sold it for 14.5k....
Old 15-10-2008 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Kev.H
as a comparison I sold my focus rs 4 months ago. I bought it for 17.5k 4 years later I sold it for 14.5k....
Think you did well there, and 1k a year depreciation is good going
Old 15-10-2008 | 02:01 PM
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trading "for another"...surely to fuck you dont mean trade for a new st?
Old 15-10-2008 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by alexno1dj
robbing c**ts !!
And you can bet they would have it for sale for another 4 grand more two weeks later.
I hate it when people blatantly try and rip you off. I had a Fiesta Zetec S, 02 plate, 49,000 miles and immaculate, i got offered 1250 !! i just laughed and walked out, i was so shocked at the nerve of them !

Just the kind of reply you expect from a total fucking idiot who hasnt a bloody clue how business works

Have you any idea how much garage overheads are

You must think they all work for free like you must do
Old 15-10-2008 | 04:34 PM
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sounds about right to me for trade to offer 1250 for it.

its more idiots like you thinking there cars worth £££££££££££

in the real world simply not, private sale id say 1500 maybe a little more
Old 15-10-2008 | 06:29 PM
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TBF that ZS would sell for around 3k having seen a few go in the last few weeks at that money if it is as described. But still think the offer of £1250 is what should be expected.

Never got why someone would expect anything other than a low offer for a trade in, the garage has to make money to stay in business??

The only way you will get a decent price is if you are paying top whack for the new car, and or doing finance, this gives the garage some scope to earn money out of the deal.

Went to one place years back, like motor nations or something, my car was worth 2k as a trade in TOPS, they offered my 3k !!! The reason for this was that the car they were selling was around 2k over the normal price garage price and they insisted that I would have to take finance for the car with them in order to be able to take my car as a trade in??

The car they were selling was a nail, they said, and I quote "dont look at the condition, we will sort all the dents, scratches, bold tyres, filthy interior etc, and don't look at the price, we will sort something out"

LOL, what was I supposed to look at???

I left quickly!!
Old 15-10-2008 | 10:00 PM
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Paul, your a syntactical cunt
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especially when youre paying the finance percentage on top like so many people do. Price sounds bang on in my opinion and the 02 zetec s is only 2295 at most really so he needs to earn a living (traders have overheads)

1250 + 70 to valet it, Then advertising to get some nob come and give 2k. Traders are having a bad time at the mo and that will reflect in the prices they offer for youre used cars.

Then he has to warrenty the car aswell. There aint that much in it when you think that way
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So why the fook do you want to get another?!
Old 15-10-2008 | 11:27 PM
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It amazes me why people complain that a large engined turbo performance car uses lots of fuel.

If you want diesel economy buy a fucking diesel
Old 15-10-2008 | 11:32 PM
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If they were proper fast i would have accepted it but it wasnt..Trying to take it easy going to work & back ect just pottering around it was still terrible on fuel
I had a civic type r & when you drove it nice off v tec it was great on fuel & when it was on v tec it wasnt that much slower than the focus.
I would have another civic anyday over a focus st.
Old 15-10-2008 | 11:38 PM
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Carlo,

Just pottering around off boost its still a 2.5 litre engine !!!!

I get 29 to 31 mpg driving mine carefully.

Oh and they can be proper fast in the same way cossies can be if you do the same mods !!!
Old 15-10-2008 | 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Flux Capacitor
I get 29 to 31 mpg driving mine like Miss Daisy.
Old 15-10-2008 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Twellsie
correct, there is a 07 ST2, 18k miles round the corner for me that is £10800 and has been there for months!


Fancy a trip... with a clio to P/X? pmsl
Old 15-10-2008 | 11:43 PM
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Mine never senn more than 23 mpg.
Then i fitted code red 285,air filter , mongoose,de cat,airtec cooler it went great spinning in 4th in the wet.
But was obviously even worse on fuel & i got fed up.
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AJ,

We cant all be master pimps driving expensive cars without worrying about fuel......


....you cunt
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Originally Posted by carlo
Mine never senn more than 23 mpg.
Then i fitted code red 285,air filter , mongoose,de cat,airtec cooler it went great spinning in 4th in the wet.
But was obviously even worse on fuel & i got fed up.
Strange, Mine has never been that bad and I do cane the arse off it quite a bit !!!
Old 15-10-2008 | 11:48 PM
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Simon you're actually quite a funny guy you cunt

I get 44mpg out of my Clio but I'm always trying to improve on that
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AJ,

I look forward to your "Just pollished my clio piccie thread".
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Originally Posted by Flux Capacitor
AJ,

I look forward to your "Just pollished my clio piccie thread".
I've never polished it in the 3 years I've owned it but I'll see what I can do for you
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i wouldn't give a quid for a focus ST, they are chav wagons and aren't real fords or performance cars, my S1 is a real ford and my S3 is a performance car... ST? I'll take my nissan primastar thanks!!
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My avensis 1.8 petrol gives me a whopping 48mpg average for the week!!

And it's STILL worth 3 grand less that I paid for it 6 months ago.... Thats the thing with newer cars, they drop like rocks! The only way around it is to keep them for fucking years! I plan on letting the missus have her stupid people carrier when the USA returns to the moon That way I'll have had my money's worth out the Avensis

I'll still piss the rest of my money away keeping some shonky Ford on the go right enough so it's all relative
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Originally Posted by series1stu
i wouldn't give a quid for a focus ST, they are chav wagons and aren't real fords or performance cars, my S1 is a real ford and my S3 is a performance car... ST? I'll take my nissan primastar thanks!!
I would have an ST3 over a rattly horrid CVH engined tin can ANY day of the week.... , I don't see how people can knock ST's, they are a great hot hatch, so nice to drive and with all the options a fucking nice car IMHO, with LOTS of tuning potential. The only thing letting them down is wrong wheel drive
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Originally Posted by series1stu
i wouldn't give a quid for a focus ST, they are chav wagons and aren't real fords or performance cars, my S1 is a real ford and my S3 is a performance car... ST? I'll take my nissan primastar thanks!!

Are you sure?? It's just they put a big fucking badge on the front that says FORD

Your S3 is a golf in a party dress
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Originally Posted by Rab
Are you sure?? It's just they put a big fucking badge on the front that says FORD

Your S3 is a golf in a party dress
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going back to the Road tax thing, say for example you have a year 2002 WRX. The engine lets itself go and you replace it with an engine from a year 2000 WRX. If the section 7.3 of the MOT testers manual is still valid, when doing an emisson test on a vehicle with an older engine, it is to be tested at the year of the engine is to be taken into account and tested on that.
Having proven to the MOT tester of the year, would it be fair to assume that once DVLA are aware of the engine year, could it in theory be eligible for the lower road tax band?

7.3 of tester manual:

Test according to which is older, engine or vehicle.
e.g. A 1995 car fitted with a 1991 engine (of whatever make), test to 1991 standards for emission purposes.

Note: The onus is on the vehicle presenter
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Originally Posted by series1stu
i wouldn't give a quid for a focus ST, they are chav wagons and aren't real fords or performance cars, my S1 is a real ford and my S3 is a performance car... ST? I'll take my nissan primastar thanks!!

Cock and you are local to me too LOL

Will gladly race your S1 any day in my "not real performance car" and gladly hand you your ass on a plate
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Originally Posted by series1stu
i wouldn't give a quid for a focus ST, they are chav wagons and aren't real fords or performance cars, my S1 is a real ford and my S3 is a performance car... ST? I'll take my nissan primastar thanks!!

Define "performance car". Sounds to me like somebody needs to take their blinkers off!
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Nothing beats the 3dr cossie!! fooking king...
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Originally Posted by JoeRS22
Nothing beats the 3dr cossie!! fooking king...
Apart from a sorted escort cossie


and yes I have had both....
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Originally Posted by series1stu
i wouldn't give a quid for a focus ST, they are chav wagons and aren't real fords or performance cars, my S1 is a real ford and my S3 is a performance car... ST? I'll take my nissan primastar thanks!!
i love s1's as well but only cause they're a true classic in my eyes
a decent st would cane the arse off 1 imho
but then it should its got 20 years technology on its side
as for the s3 being a performance car, i think they're 1 of the biggest let downs ever, and again a st would kick the ass of a s3
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drove a few and my mate has owned one since new and ive gotta admit i was dissapointed.

dont think they are fast and as someone has already said the drive is at the wrong wheels.

cant believe they are just hotting one up and calling it a focus RS

ST will never compete with the evo and the scooby that it tries to.

dont mean to offend any owners. just my opinion

S3 was also a let down. as westus 1 says
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Originally Posted by Ebonycossie4x4
drove a few and my mate has owned one since new and ive gotta admit i was dissapointed.

dont think they are fast and as someone has already said the drive is at the wrong wheels.

cant believe they are just hotting one up and calling it a focus RS

ST will never compete with the evo and the scooby that it tries to.

dont mean to offend any owners. just my opinion
No offence taken. !

The ST has never tried to compete with the EVO or scooby !!!
Anyone who even tries to compare them hasnt a clue what an ST is !

As for fast, 150mph out of the factory and easy to get 270 bhp with a simple remap !

Yes its driving the wrong wheels but it isnt a rally car !

WIll always prefer my escos for what it was but the ST is a fantastic daily driver car.
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Taken from a website this year.

Available from November, the new Subaru Impreza 2.5 WRX turbo will cost a remarkable £19,995 on-the-road

The Focus ST is on sale from 1 May with prices starting at £18,250.

Seperate websites but in my opinion price is important and 1750 is not a lot to add for a 4wd better handling car with just as much if not more tuning potential.

Still lose as much money though lol.

for a daily driver i suppose the focus st is a nice car just wanted it to be so much better than it is thats all.

Longed for it to be the next escos if im honest. If it was i would have put my name down strieght away.
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if you sell the ST have you ever considered an M3 or an evo to replace it?
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here we go again - "driving the wrong wheels"

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