Mint FRST

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Only owned RST's including Fiesta's. Have been in and drive an R5 and was impressed with the low down performance compaired to some of my RSTs.

Both have pro's and cons of course. For me it would be an RST in Fiesta form.

You cannot not like a clean origianl R5 though - thats if youll find one!

Stavros

Scooby-

Who owns, or cares, about standard R5s and RSTs? They are both shit slow, and something tells me this guy who started this thread doesnt plan to keep his standard.

In my unfortunate experiences of the standard ones, there not much in it top end, but R5GTT certainly is faster at lower speeds where it counts in lower power cars.
125bhp cars doing top end racing would be the most boring thing ever.

If going by book stuff, both had same top end, they both had almost the same power, GTT was faster to 60, shorter geared, and weighed over 100kg less.'

Opinions are fair enough, but "facts" that are not facts arnt good.

MarK4

having owned a well modded S2 and a old 5Alive demo car I wouldn't mind either tbh. I reckon my S2 had the legs but only from 125 upwards, 0-120 R5 all the way both ran silly boost. If I had to choose it would be a healthy R5.

Also my mates run a Uno website and have seen many levels of tune only one impressed me which was just ported head, cam, T3 and 5th and 6th injectors even then put out only 200bhp but was rapid.

Alps Pacino

I'd have a crx vtec over both of them

Rhys

WOW this is a discussion i have not seen in years!

dangerousbrian

same here..not really that fussed bout speed tho..ive got a standard s1 and my mates standard r5 pissed on my rs..

89xr2

I'd have an R5 everytime. My mates last one ran 169bhp or something on APT's rollers and would pull low 5's to 60. Never forget one night after we'd been setting the fueling in it we went out to check everything was running ok. Stopped at a set of lights and next thing you know some guy in a WRX Scooby pulls up next to us, looks at us and starts giving it the big un to his mate in the car, lights change, scooby proper launches and gets about a car length on us.. as soon as my mates turbo spooled as it took a while it was all over. Absolutely spanked it up to about 100 it was no where to be seen and that was with 170 bhp. He's currently building a new one with Warley Petes old car being the base should be a monster when it's done.

rsvmad1

fuk me didnt count on this many replies cheers peeps!! its a twat im still un decided machanical side i no the rs engine and is simple, had a read about he R5`s and there a bit harder time wise. And if i wanted to do the engine transplant that can be done on both 2! the rs is just easyer!
Looks wise we all no the R5`s an Rsturbo`s are sex on wheels come on peeps still no pics

Im selling this if any1 in2 there old mk4 vans just about to lower the font an ive gone an jumped of a roof like a daft twat an snapped me leg duurrrr!!

PLEASE SEND PICS OF UR R5`S AN RS`S

CRAIG HAYTER

get a s1 they are

rsvmad1

im not really that fussed about the performance, i mean dont get me wrong i am buying a turbo. Its all the looks for me its just summet about the R5 but then i start to think if things go wrong can i fix the R5 its a hard1

rsvmad1

Id love 1 to get1 with a good body aint cheap tho!!! do they just run a differant gear box?

turbotoaster

full rs500 cooler from pro alloy, they thought i was mad when i turned up at there office and picked up a sierra cooler and said i wanted it


Not a spot of rust, fully waxoiled aswell



pic to show the difference in cooler sizes

rsvmad1

[quote=turbotoaster;3640014]full rs500 cooler from pro alloy, they thought i was mad when i turned up at there office and picked up a sierra cooler and sai



That looks the dogs....

MattyRST

Ive had both and i prefer the S2 over the R5, the R5 felt tinny and not as strong as the S2 id hate to have a bump in a R5

rsvmad1

Ye that is a good point! an we all no what french cars are like! i was flying down the motorway doing 120 in my old axgt an the side skirts decided to blow of(original body)), first they half came of an started flaping against the windows nearly shattering them(bit of an head fuk when 17 an test just passed) then the fukers just flew in the air

cabrio zo

It will be personal choice at the end of the day, they both older, ragged and probably just an unreliable as each other, the 5 did feel like a bean tin, some days the windows wouldn't work but blimey did it fly, felt like a roller skate, old 5 and s2 (sorry old 3 S2!):







The red ones dipstick

rsvmad1

Fuk me pictures cheers m8 likin the engine bay on that R5

cossiej

i miss the r5 about 200bhp in a bean can is quick and my mate who use to own it drove to spa and the ring and hammered the old girl everywhere ................... still sat the s2 looks alot better

cabrio zo

The 5's make an awesome noise though

Z

FULLBORE

r5's just come across a bit chav'y. Rs's are a bit more grown up.For example,if you worked in a office(for a large upmarket company) you could turn up in an escort rs s1 or 2 and people wouldnt think any different. Turn up in a r5 or even the fiesta turbo and you'd look like a peter pan.......the man that dont want to grow up.
thats just my opinion
Ive had all the the rst's and a r5. I love the sound of the r5's,but they make more noise than they actually go.As for big power r5's,yeah they are good @ qtr miles,But my mate had a 206bhp r5,and had a tear up with another mate in a 230bhp fiesta rst and there was no comparison.The r5 was in front up to 60,then the fiesta made it look like he had stamped on the brakes!And the matey in the r5 always felt he had something to prove to the rs boys so he'd give his r5 death!!!!lol

His r5 was fairly reliable to be fair.
But when he had a 30mph crash in the r5,you'd of thought he'd hit a wall head on at about 80! they are like tin foil!

cabrio zo

I beg to differ, most people would thikn of them as a shitty old Ford as that how the majority of people see mk3/4 Escorts

Z

vibrating_cake

i wonder why 206bhp vs 230bhp the 206bhp car lost.... even with a weight advantage up top end more power=faster to be fair!

good ol' R5 to me, look after em well, put a nice sturdy cage in em and ur fine.
seen a couple crashed at 20-30mph before... put it this way, the front bumper was touching the front shock absorbers....

5 with a cage... no compromise =).

im a fan of rwd, and think fwd is the curse of satan..... but those 5's and a B road are Lethal buggers, would give many a car a run for their money!

RobL

i disagree ,my s2 got not nothing but love everytime i got it out
folks allways asking me about it
in fact the only place i see them get ridiculed is on here

RS Grant

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Yes, pick a Honda... Civic, CRX, Integra...


Cheers,
Grant

turbo_boost

Whats a decent renault 5 tuner becuase i am looking to get one of these, i considered a s2 but imo been off it

Stavros any pics of your r5??

cabrio zo

That was my experience too - from the 1% in my Company who knew what it is, the rest are clueless non-enthusiasts who only know what a BMW badge is so have to have 'one of those' to keep up with 'the Jones'
People thought I couldn't afford what, in their minds is, a 'decent' car, not that I drove a S2 as I liked it, and thats all that matters, plus the fact my S2 was worth more than their old compacts/3 series and didn't look like all the other sheep in the car park (obviously I'm not talking about new 3 series etc even the peeps with their Ł600 1996 316's think they're better because they have a BMW )

K-Tec are pretty good 5 tuners, BB were moving premises last I heard (or even AJ Tuning)

Z

turbotoaster

bugger i should have thought about honda before i put that B Series turbo FTW been thinking about going that route myself as my next car

tobyjug_1988

mate of mine had a similar problem with a polish guy at his work who was convinced that a standard 318is was faster than his tuned (albeit lightly) frst, he said it was just a kitted up fiesta, mate proved him wrong when he took him out in it lol

rsvmad1

more pics plz!! wouldnt mind a few pics of engine bays too

cossieDavedree

Why compare 850 kg (r5) vs 1080kg (s2)
Should it not be against the frst (910kg)

Anyways I SKipped both and went cosworth when I was 21 anyway.
My friend has a s2 rst running 150bhp daily driver, its reasonably quick. But main thing is its been reliable because its been looked after. I hate when people say oh dont get a ren 5, dont get an rst, dont get a cossie they're unreliable.

People forget these cars are 80's homologation.
So as STANDARD Road versions they dont compare to most modern day 16v na engines. But tune them and do it properly and the rewards are superb. Although to contradict myself wasnt the b16 around the same era lol.

rsvmad1

Trust me m8 if i could afford 1 id have 1!!!! an it would be ash black rollin on azev 18`s

kiddie

No R5 pics but RS pics :





however I like the R5's better!

woodz77

i had a R5 years ago . fast as fook round town . within 2 days of owning it , i noticed it leaked water , oil , wouldnt start all the time and then done the head gasket . nice motor for the 2 days i was boosting about . ive had loads of RST . much better all round motor . but for a standard car to hack around town id have the R5 ............... might have a look on ebay

rsvmad1

[quote=kiddie;3642600]No R5 pics but RS pics :




Thats fookin nice

Turbogal75

My RS love it more than my bloke
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rsvmad1

Very nice i want black myself ifnot black then gota be grey take it the boy friends not that clever under the sheets lol

Turbogal75

LOL Hes more than capable


Yeah some nice grey ones going about........

rsvmad1

so u as good lookin as ur car lol

Turbogal75

quote=rsvmad1;3642851]so u as good lookin as ur car lol[/quote]

Course i am.......only good looking women drive Rs Turbos

Rocco

I would go for a 5 as parts are cheap & fun to drive

a few pics of mine.