Why is overtaking so frowned upon :(
#41
i must say im even more terrible for it in the gte
the inside lane is fuckin terrible compaired to the middle lane !! soooooo bumpy
but with that said i understand where ppl are coming form i would not sit at 50 in the middle lane and it annoys me when there are ppl
but sitting at80+ on the inside lane imo is safer than trying to pull out all the time
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#47
I agree overtaking is frowned upon, but part of the problem is that people who don't want to overtake don't leave enough space for the overtaking car to drop into. In other words they are being selfish gits and are also not leaving a safe brakeing distance for themselves. After all only a fool breaks the two second rule. As for middle lane hoggers, I have driven all over the country and everywhere you go there is a brainless twat in the middle lane doing 60. I have just been on the Directgov website and the highway code states:
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You should always drive in the left-hand lane when the road ahead is clear. If you are overtaking a number of slower-moving vehicles, you should return to the left-hand lane as soon as you are safely past. Slow-moving or speed-restricted vehicles should always remain in the left-hand lane of the carriageway unless overtaking. You MUST NOT drive on the hard shoulder except in an emergency or if directed to do so by the police, HA traffic officers in uniform or by signs.
[Laws MT(E&W)R regs 5, 9 & 16(1)(a), MT(S)R regs 4, 8 & 14(1)(a), and RTA 1988, sects 35 & 186, as amended by TMA 2004 sect 6]
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You should always drive in the left-hand lane when the road ahead is clear. If you are overtaking a number of slower-moving vehicles, you should return to the left-hand lane as soon as you are safely past. Slow-moving or speed-restricted vehicles should always remain in the left-hand lane of the carriageway unless overtaking. You MUST NOT drive on the hard shoulder except in an emergency or if directed to do so by the police, HA traffic officers in uniform or by signs.
[Laws MT(E&W)R regs 5, 9 & 16(1)(a), MT(S)R regs 4, 8 & 14(1)(a), and RTA 1988, sects 35 & 186, as amended by TMA 2004 sect 6]
#48
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the scenarios youre giving are not what im talking about, youre paying attention to if youre holding people up or not.
example.
you come up to a bit of traffic with a lorry overtaking anotehr.
some dippy bint decides to join lane 3 @ 60mph to overtkae the lorrys.
now what you end up with is lanes 1 and 2 EMPTY and about 20 cars in lane 3!
if i can cross 2 lanes, keep under the speed limit and pass over 10 cars in 1 go then something is seriously amiss.
hogging lane3 is far more problematic than hogging lane2
and the "well, im not going faster than 70mph as thats the speed limit" attitude is CRAP. if you want to do it fine, but the BIG ARSE FUCKING QUE behind you doesnt and youve just caused congestion
example.
you come up to a bit of traffic with a lorry overtaking anotehr.
some dippy bint decides to join lane 3 @ 60mph to overtkae the lorrys.
now what you end up with is lanes 1 and 2 EMPTY and about 20 cars in lane 3!
if i can cross 2 lanes, keep under the speed limit and pass over 10 cars in 1 go then something is seriously amiss.
hogging lane3 is far more problematic than hogging lane2
and the "well, im not going faster than 70mph as thats the speed limit" attitude is CRAP. if you want to do it fine, but the BIG ARSE FUCKING QUE behind you doesnt and youve just caused congestion
#53
It's not in the highway code, may be in the funeral directors handbook though.
#54
if they arent supplied with working indicators why would they even be worthy of moving for?
i'd maybe move over for an f40.but mainly to see it.............then i'd lose in a race with it
#57
its the old guys in their company cars that pull over then try to out accelerate you from the inside lane that make me laugh.
especially as i floor it and go sideways at 70 then cruise past them laughing....
especially as i floor it and go sideways at 70 then cruise past them laughing....
#58
motorway lane discipline is absolutely poor in this country, why the fuck do drivers in the middle lane pull out infront of you as your in the outside lane just so they can get infront of the car that was infront of them in the middle lane and carry on doing the same speed as the cunt they overtook!!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
#59
the scenarios youre giving are not what im talking about, youre paying attention to if youre holding people up or not.
example.
you come up to a bit of traffic with a lorry overtaking anotehr.
some dippy bint decides to join lane 3 @ 60mph to overtkae the lorrys.
now what you end up with is lanes 1 and 2 EMPTY and about 20 cars in lane 3!
if i can cross 2 lanes, keep under the speed limit and pass over 10 cars in 1 go then something is seriously amiss.
hogging lane3 is far more problematic than hogging lane2
and the "well, im not going faster than 70mph as thats the speed limit" attitude is CRAP. if you want to do it fine, but the BIG ARSE FUCKING QUE behind you doesnt and youve just caused congestion
example.
you come up to a bit of traffic with a lorry overtaking anotehr.
some dippy bint decides to join lane 3 @ 60mph to overtkae the lorrys.
now what you end up with is lanes 1 and 2 EMPTY and about 20 cars in lane 3!
if i can cross 2 lanes, keep under the speed limit and pass over 10 cars in 1 go then something is seriously amiss.
hogging lane3 is far more problematic than hogging lane2
and the "well, im not going faster than 70mph as thats the speed limit" attitude is CRAP. if you want to do it fine, but the BIG ARSE FUCKING QUE behind you doesnt and youve just caused congestion
get your arse in the inside lane if dont want to break 70mph and let everyone else deal with their own speeding issues! lane hoggers go to hell when they die, FACT! dont police the highways thanx!
i always tell drivers to fuck off when i overtake them and they catch up at the next lights and start talking shit!
#60
Its usually done by rich twats in thier mercs or tossers in BMW's. Is it some fucked up status thing that they cant cope with being overtaken by an old ford????
#61
the problem I find with the inside lane on lots of motorways is that its fucked, often badly trammed up by the constant lorry use meaning your constantly falling in and out of lorry tracks, If its like this I will tend to avoid it but else I use all 3 lanes as required for overtaking.
#62
I think the people who flash/toot after you over-take them are obviously worried/annoyed since they think you are going too fast for conditions. I seldom break the speed limit and yet i always seem to pass a line of cars on the M8 each morning.
Poor driver education is the core of the problem, too many people seem to want to sit at 50mph in a 70mph zone, for what reason i really don't know. They never seem to realise that they are restricting traffic flow and hindering progress for us all.
Poor driver education is the core of the problem, too many people seem to want to sit at 50mph in a 70mph zone, for what reason i really don't know. They never seem to realise that they are restricting traffic flow and hindering progress for us all.
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#67
there are more bmw's on the road than mondeos it seems these days , yet every one of them is a tosser , personally i'd rather do 30k a year in a bmw than a vectra or mondeo i'm sure there are people that will agree .
cheers gaz .
cheers gaz .
#69
alot of motorists in the area i live go nuts if you dare to overtake them, they think that they decree the speed limit and all other motorists should have to abide by their ridiculously low speeds
and i've noticed alot of them darent overtake anything, presumably because they dont know how to.
so many times lately i've seen cars driving along slowly behind a cyclist or tractor on a country road, yet there is clearly 1mile of empty straight road ahead of them but they darent just go for it!
and i've noticed alot of them darent overtake anything, presumably because they dont know how to.
so many times lately i've seen cars driving along slowly behind a cyclist or tractor on a country road, yet there is clearly 1mile of empty straight road ahead of them but they darent just go for it!
Last edited by percybigun; 02-08-2008 at 01:39 PM.
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I think its nothing to do with driving, its a mental problem.
They assume that because you have overtaken them this in some way insinuates they are a bad driver or incapable so you have to get passed them, so they are pissed off at that, nothing to do with the act of overtaking itself, they think its a personal attack on them.
If they just had the view point of "hey, that bloke needs to get where he's going quicker than I do" then there wouldn't be a problem. Sometimes I too am not in a rush and just stick to the speed limit, but if I spot a car coming up in the mirror I move into the kerb as much as I can to let him pass, same with bikes.
They assume that because you have overtaken them this in some way insinuates they are a bad driver or incapable so you have to get passed them, so they are pissed off at that, nothing to do with the act of overtaking itself, they think its a personal attack on them.
If they just had the view point of "hey, that bloke needs to get where he's going quicker than I do" then there wouldn't be a problem. Sometimes I too am not in a rush and just stick to the speed limit, but if I spot a car coming up in the mirror I move into the kerb as much as I can to let him pass, same with bikes.
#72
lets face it. 99% of the time youll overtake a car doing thats doing 40 in a 60,youll look over to give them a dirty look, and itll be an old biddy that can hardly see over the steering wheel, or diahatsu with at least 11 Asian persuasion crammed in there. get them off the fucking road. IDIOTS
Last edited by focuschivvy; 02-08-2008 at 04:51 PM.
#74
try driving a truck up and down all day, some right tossers just sit in lane 1 at 50mph or less which causes us to then clog up lane2 for about 1/2 mile to pass a car/van, also peoples poor positioning at junctions etc is a lot more noticeable when in a truck, i just think the standards these days are so poor in all manners of driving.
#76
lets face it. 99% of the time youll overtake a car doing thats doing 40 in a 60,youll look over to give them a dirty look, and itll be an old biddy that can hardly see over the steering wheel, or diahatsu with at least 11 p*!?% crammed in there. get them off the fucking road. IDIOTS
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