Regarding those rumours...
01-08-2008, 01:05 PM
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Regarding those rumours...
Seems like people believe what they want to believe so posting one's side to the story won't do anything for those rumours BUT Jay closing the post with the statement that Martin has stated his case so it's done with now is very very dodgy....
I don't agree with the tone of some of the reply's either; why the need to swear and insult everytime something is not to your liking? An intelligent argument adds credibillity, calling someone a jealous Cunt does not.
Regardless of whose right or wrong: an issue this sensitive shouldn't be closed IMO.
I don't agree with the tone of some of the reply's either; why the need to swear and insult everytime something is not to your liking? An intelligent argument adds credibillity, calling someone a jealous Cunt does not.
Regardless of whose right or wrong: an issue this sensitive shouldn't be closed IMO.
01-08-2008, 01:17 PM
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core fuck me u lke try to cause shit dont u ,the thread got shut due to all the fucking waffle which even u aint that good at, ITS STILL THERE TO READ AS U LIKE FFS and for christ sake read the fuckin rules post can be locked removed when a webteam member see's fit so once again it was mostly waffle
tell you what hooligan steph tell whoever u are dont like it here or they way we do thing go somewhere else to set fire to things
tell you what hooligan steph tell whoever u are dont like it here or they way we do thing go somewhere else to set fire to things
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01-08-2008, 01:19 PM
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core fuck me u lke try to cause u dont the thread got shut do to all tyhe fucking waffle which even u aint that good at ITS STILL THERE TO READ AS U LIKE FFS and for christ read the fuckin rules post can be locked removed when a webteam member see's fit so once again it was mostly waffle
tell you what hooligan steph tell whoever u are dont like it here or they way we do thing go somewhere else to sert fire to things
tell you what hooligan steph tell whoever u are dont like it here or they way we do thing go somewhere else to sert fire to things
Your post reads like the drunken ramblings of a Glasgow stag do.
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Seems like people believe what they want to believe so posting one's side to the story won't do anything for those rumours BUT Jay closing the post with the statement that Martin has stated his case so it's done with now is very very dodgy....
I don't agree with the tone of some of the reply's either; why the need to swear and insult everytime something is not to your liking? An intelligent argument adds credibillity, calling someone a jealous Cunt does not.
Regardless of whose right or wrong: an issue this sensitive shouldn't be closed IMO.
I don't agree with the tone of some of the reply's either; why the need to swear and insult everytime something is not to your liking? An intelligent argument adds credibillity, calling someone a jealous Cunt does not.
Regardless of whose right or wrong: an issue this sensitive shouldn't be closed IMO.
Probably because one person won't reveal their identity or produce ANY proof?
So therefore is just abuse isn't it?
and therefore rightfully closed.
Its like R5 Ford... I caught him sucking off his grandad. I have proof as well! but I just don't fancy posting it...
Can I keep saying that? or is that unfair on R5 Ford?
Susan should just say WHO HE is and bring some proof or leave a well respected and liked member of this community alone.
martins been up front and honest!
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01-08-2008, 01:23 PM
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Jay,
Seems that you have a problem with people expressing their opinion in a correct and polite manner?
Is that because you seem unable to do so yourself, even though you are a moderator wich I think should set a good example, or just because you seem to take the slightest hint of critisism personally?
I am very sorry if my opinion is not one you care for but I have every right to be here and state my opinions so I'm afraid you will have to put up with it for now.
Seems that you have a problem with people expressing their opinion in a correct and polite manner?
Is that because you seem unable to do so yourself, even though you are a moderator wich I think should set a good example, or just because you seem to take the slightest hint of critisism personally?
I am very sorry if my opinion is not one you care for but I have every right to be here and state my opinions so I'm afraid you will have to put up with it for now.
01-08-2008, 01:27 PM
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Lee, if Martin has been honest so what if one person on here says otherwise?
There's two sides to every story, let people hear both and make up their minds.
As far as proof goes: for now neither Martin or Susan have PROVED anything...
As far as abuse goes: all the ussual swearing and insulting on here does nothing for Martin's case.
A calm and intelligent reply will be far more convincing...
There's two sides to every story, let people hear both and make up their minds.
As far as proof goes: for now neither Martin or Susan have PROVED anything...
As far as abuse goes: all the ussual swearing and insulting on here does nothing for Martin's case.
A calm and intelligent reply will be far more convincing...
01-08-2008, 01:40 PM
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I have neither met or know martin but its quite obvious that the post had turned to shit by people wading in with abuse (I say abuse because without facts or proof thats exactly what it is)
Why would Martin go to the hassle of spending time to write out a well worded and long explanation of his past only for it to be lies? his business is going from strength to strength even with all these over blown rumours so he had nothing to gain from coming clean, or does logic like that not compute in single brain cell land?
01-08-2008, 01:40 PM
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Has nothing to do with shitstirring whatsoever and I didn't come on here to make friends so I'm afraid I'm not too bothered Doby.
Fact is that a sensitive issue has been brought to PF, not by me I might add, and I feel it should be left open for people to read and reply to.
If you stop to think for a minute you would realise it could be in Martin's best interest as well....but if you'd rather put it down to shitstirring/jealousy please feel free as that seems to be the answer to pretty much every issue on PF nowaday's.
Blinkered?
A man has been done for a crime, since that rumours have been about so that man comes on a forum to explain himself.
Fair enough.
BUT: someone else comes on and chalenges the afformentioned man's statements.
Is that abuse?
Or is all the swearing and insults thrown at said person abuse?
MATT: where did I say Martin's hasn't been honest or infact wrong?
Fact is that a sensitive issue has been brought to PF, not by me I might add, and I feel it should be left open for people to read and reply to.
If you stop to think for a minute you would realise it could be in Martin's best interest as well....but if you'd rather put it down to shitstirring/jealousy please feel free as that seems to be the answer to pretty much every issue on PF nowaday's.
Blinkered?
A man has been done for a crime, since that rumours have been about so that man comes on a forum to explain himself.
Fair enough.
BUT: someone else comes on and chalenges the afformentioned man's statements.
Is that abuse?
Or is all the swearing and insults thrown at said person abuse?
MATT: where did I say Martin's hasn't been honest or infact wrong?
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01-08-2008, 01:42 PM
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Lee, if Martin has been honest so what if one person on here says otherwise?
There's two sides to every story, let people hear both and make up their minds.
As far as proof goes: for now neither Martin or Susan have PROVED anything...
As far as abuse goes: all the ussual swearing and insulting on here does nothing for Martin's case.
A calm and intelligent reply will be far more convincing...
There's two sides to every story, let people hear both and make up their minds.
As far as proof goes: for now neither Martin or Susan have PROVED anything...
As far as abuse goes: all the ussual swearing and insulting on here does nothing for Martin's case.
A calm and intelligent reply will be far more convincing...
But you can't keep accusing people without evidence???
Thats abuse.
Susan keeps accusing Martin of stuff.
Martin admitted and told his side of the story.
Susan says thats a lie.... now unless Susan can prove otherwise. STFU.
If martin post up his charge sheet and Suan KEEPS producing nothing would that shut you up?
What YOU don't seem to GET either steph is this....
MARTIN IS A WELL RESPECTED MEMBER OF THIS FORUM AND IS TRUSTED BY MANY MANY MANY PEOPLE AND HAS EARNED THAT TRUST OVER MANY YEARS!
Susan has 4 posts, no proof, noone knows HIM, WON'T REVEAL WHO THEY ARE and is allowed to slag Martoon and abuse him with LIES?
THATS NOT RIGHT.
If it was someone new with evidence and they were upfront then fair enough.
OR if it was say Mike Rainbird that was accusing Martin then fine... LET the thread run!!!
BUT IT ISN'T
ITS SOME JEALOUS CUNT!
01-08-2008, 01:44 PM
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blimey, take the blinkers off man.
I have neither met or know martin but its quite obvious that the post had turned to shit by people wading in with abuse (I say abuse because without facts or proof thats exactly what it is)
Why would Martin go to the hassle of spending time to write out a well worded and long explanation of his past only for it to be lies? his business is going from strength to strength even with all these over blown rumours so he had nothing to gain from coming clean, or does logic like that not compute in single brain cell land?
I have neither met or know martin but its quite obvious that the post had turned to shit by people wading in with abuse (I say abuse because without facts or proof thats exactly what it is)
Why would Martin go to the hassle of spending time to write out a well worded and long explanation of his past only for it to be lies? his business is going from strength to strength even with all these over blown rumours so he had nothing to gain from coming clean, or does logic like that not compute in single brain cell land?
01-08-2008, 01:47 PM
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01-08-2008, 01:53 PM
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JIM: we used to have those actually....remember that saw off Phil at one time as well.
LEE: Martin has brought up the subject in the post we are talking about and as much as he has the right to have his say, so has this Susan or anybody else for that matter.
The fact that Martin is a respected member on here and Susan is new might make it look suspect but never the less: that doesn't grant her less rights than martin to voice her opinion.
And please remember: I am not partial to Martin nor Susan.
LEE: Martin has brought up the subject in the post we are talking about and as much as he has the right to have his say, so has this Susan or anybody else for that matter.
The fact that Martin is a respected member on here and Susan is new might make it look suspect but never the less: that doesn't grant her less rights than martin to voice her opinion.
And please remember: I am not partial to Martin nor Susan.
01-08-2008, 01:57 PM
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Jay,
Seems that you have a problem with people expressing their opinion in a correct and polite manner?
Is that because you seem unable to do so yourself, even though you are a moderator wich I think should set a good example, or just because you seem to take the slightest hint of critisism personally?
I am very sorry if my opinion is not one you care for but I have every right to be here and state my opinions so I'm afraid you will have to put up with it for now.
Seems that you have a problem with people expressing their opinion in a correct and polite manner?
Is that because you seem unable to do so yourself, even though you are a moderator wich I think should set a good example, or just because you seem to take the slightest hint of critisism personally?
I am very sorry if my opinion is not one you care for but I have every right to be here and state my opinions so I'm afraid you will have to put up with it for now.
no mate u can turn how u like but this thread aint opinion and you know it ! its just another lets see how much shit i can cause thread
Probably because one person won't reveal their identity or produce ANY proof?
So therefore is just abuse isn't it?
and therefore rightfully closed.
Its like R5 Ford... I caught him sucking off his grandad. I have proof as well! but I just don't fancy posting it...
Can I keep saying that? or is that unfair on R5 Ford?
Susan should just say WHO HE is and bring some proof or leave a well respected and liked member of this community alone.
exactly but we all know why this topic was started for the contraversail audience to start clapping and geeeing it on or to try and get a pound of flesh just for the crack
martins been up front and honest!
So therefore is just abuse isn't it?
and therefore rightfully closed.
Its like R5 Ford... I caught him sucking off his grandad. I have proof as well! but I just don't fancy posting it...
Can I keep saying that? or is that unfair on R5 Ford?
Susan should just say WHO HE is and bring some proof or leave a well respected and liked member of this community alone.
exactly but we all know why this topic was started for the contraversail audience to start clapping and geeeing it on or to try and get a pound of flesh just for the crack
martins been up front and honest!
01-08-2008, 02:03 PM
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i agree with porkie
that susana could be any muppet havin a laugh or just some jealous fool.
theres all kinds of weird folk on the net posting shit
that susana could be any muppet havin a laugh or just some jealous fool.
theres all kinds of weird folk on the net posting shit
01-08-2008, 02:05 PM
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Well Jay if that's how you persist on seeing it there isn't really a lot I can do about it is there?
It does seem that you have a problem with me for some reason not known to me but if you care to discuss it further please feel free to PM me.
It does seem that you have a problem with me for some reason not known to me but if you care to discuss it further please feel free to PM me.
01-08-2008, 02:12 PM
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Like I said, I do not know as to WHY you would have a problem with me but it seems so due to the fact that no matter how I argue my case, you seem intent on accusing me of shitstirring?
01-08-2008, 02:19 PM
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This 'susan' hasn't actually came out and directly accused Martin of anything, just hinted and talked in riddles - if you have an accusation why not just be bold and come out with it, name these 'other' tuners allegedly involved - then provide you theory of why you think this is true
For someone who 'seems' to know so much, 'she's' saying very little
For someone who 'seems' to know so much, 'she's' saying very little
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01-08-2008, 02:22 PM
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Well as much as I'd like it for people to think I am talented I think this one is giving me too much credit Jay.
It shouldn't have to be a mongfest though should it?
It shouldn't have to be a mongfest though should it?