Regarding those rumours...
01-08-2008, 02:30 PM
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As I said... you DON'T get my point and the point of others whatsoEVER!
Case for BELIEVING Martin.
LOTS of people know him personally on here...
He is trusted and respected by hundreds...
He has NEVER been accused of stealing of robbing from any member of the
RSOC of PF in all the years they were open
Hundreds of satisfied customers that have NO problems
He has been open with what he was charged with and told the whole story even though he didn't have to....
He can and will PROVE his story.
He has his real name, address and phone numbers on here.
He has ALOT to loose by lying.
Case for believing Susan.
Er none?
No history on here.
No one knows HIM
Won't reveal identity
WON'T REVEAL ANY PROOF
So why should Martin and Susan be treated the same!??!?!?!?
THEY SHOULDN'T!!!!
One is just hurling LIES and ABUSE.
01-08-2008, 02:32 PM
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this is just another thread to continue bickering and arguing on, if "susan" had anything worth saying as apossed to hinting that they know some thing then lay it out for all to see and let people make there own minds up, this is just going round in circles and not going anywhere untill "susan" has anything solid to say...
01-08-2008, 02:39 PM
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of course its Phillipa!
But I'm giving him a clean slate!
He is a PROPER petrol head at heart and can be very funny and DOES have something to add to the site I think....
AND I REALLY think he won't ever shit stir again!
Its like being an Alcoholic! once you admit you have a problem then you can start to deal with it!
I can see him now...
Hi, my names Phil and I am a Internet shit stirrer and Troll...
But I'm giving him a clean slate!
He is a PROPER petrol head at heart and can be very funny and DOES have something to add to the site I think....
AND I REALLY think he won't ever shit stir again!
Its like being an Alcoholic! once you admit you have a problem then you can start to deal with it!
I can see him now...
Hi, my names Phil and I am a Internet shit stirrer and Troll...
01-08-2008, 02:56 PM
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Lee,
I do not know who this Susan is, nor do I have a theory on that so I guess that also means I'm not partial to her.
As for Martin, said it before and will say it again: I have no problems with him whatsoever.
What you don't seem to accept is that I DO see your point, I just don't agree.
I do not know who this Susan is, nor do I have a theory on that so I guess that also means I'm not partial to her.
As for Martin, said it before and will say it again: I have no problems with him whatsoever.
What you don't seem to accept is that I DO see your point, I just don't agree.
01-08-2008, 02:59 PM
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so WHY should Susan be 'heard' then? give me a reason?
whats different from that abuse and me just setting up a second account and accusing you of stealing Nuclear war heads and Biologoical WMDs and sucking off Horses?
I mean you have history of something similar and were charged weren't you?
I can just add the rest as in YOUR view I don't have to prove anything....
Is fair?
NO OF COURSE ITS NOT!
whats different from that abuse and me just setting up a second account and accusing you of stealing Nuclear war heads and Biologoical WMDs and sucking off Horses?
I mean you have history of something similar and were charged weren't you?
I can just add the rest as in YOUR view I don't have to prove anything....
Is fair?
NO OF COURSE ITS NOT!
01-08-2008, 03:09 PM
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I think its clear that you do....
As I said... you DON'T get my point and the point of others whatsoEVER!
Case for BELIEVING Martin.
LOTS of people know him personally on here...
He is trusted and respected by hundreds...
He has NEVER been accused of stealing of robbing from any member of the
RSOC of PF in all the years they were open
Hundreds of satisfied customers that have NO problems
He has been open with what he was charged with and told the whole story even though he didn't have to....
He can and will PROVE his story.
He has his real name, address and phone numbers on here.
He has ALOT to loose by lying.
Case for believing Susan.
Er none?
No history on here.
No one knows HIM
Won't reveal identity
WON'T REVEAL ANY PROOF
So why should Martin and Susan be treated the same!??!?!?!?
THEY SHOULDN'T!!!!
One is just hurling LIES and ABUSE.
As I said... you DON'T get my point and the point of others whatsoEVER!
Case for BELIEVING Martin.
LOTS of people know him personally on here...
He is trusted and respected by hundreds...
He has NEVER been accused of stealing of robbing from any member of the
RSOC of PF in all the years they were open
Hundreds of satisfied customers that have NO problems
He has been open with what he was charged with and told the whole story even though he didn't have to....
He can and will PROVE his story.
He has his real name, address and phone numbers on here.
He has ALOT to loose by lying.
Case for believing Susan.
Er none?
No history on here.
No one knows HIM
Won't reveal identity
WON'T REVEAL ANY PROOF
So why should Martin and Susan be treated the same!??!?!?!?
THEY SHOULDN'T!!!!
One is just hurling LIES and ABUSE.
he seemed to have alot more info than susan,so why pick on susan?
not taking sides but if your going to have an argument try to keep it balanced.
01-08-2008, 03:19 PM
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Suggest you read what Tabz put again then Tim.
Tabz never accuses Martin like Susan. He just says thats not what he read and then he goes onto to say not that the sources ' they are not that accuarate at the best of times'
Tabz is also not trying to hide behind a false persona or saying he has proof that he doesn't have....
Please tell me where my argument isn't balanced? thanks Tim
Tabz never accuses Martin like Susan. He just says thats not what he read and then he goes onto to say not that the sources ' they are not that accuarate at the best of times'
Tabz is also not trying to hide behind a false persona or saying he has proof that he doesn't have....
Please tell me where my argument isn't balanced? thanks Tim
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01-08-2008, 03:26 PM
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i dont want to read it again,i just think it reads very damning and could be seen to be harmfull,and have no desire to,martin has said his peice,god knows why,he didnt need to,folk will always slag and bitch the traders off,even more so on the internet,i take everyone i meet at face value,and would and have though nothing of sending martin a few grands worth of bits and sorting payment out later,his dealings are 100% honest in my book and his word is good enough for me.
no need to drag crap through the fantasy pages of passion fruit especially 10 years later.
no need to drag crap through the fantasy pages of passion fruit especially 10 years later.
01-08-2008, 03:33 PM
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unfortnately tim i think you are right.all the traders will get slating and accused of stuff all the time.
whether true or not.
wha i dont get is this "susan's" issue with aying who the are.where is their ful story and proof? and they dont metion the name of the "beds" tuner etherwhy should they not be named but martin is?
as said,its a bi cowardly accusing martin of anything without saying who the hell they are in the first place.
the other thing i find funny is how this has come about due to a post which highlghted ea's bad workmanship and now the attention hs been shifted to martin through unfounded accusations
whether true or not.wha i dont get is this "susan's" issue with aying who the are.where is their ful story and proof? and they dont metion the name of the "beds" tuner etherwhy should they not be named but martin is?
as said,its a bi cowardly accusing martin of anything without saying who the hell they are in the first place.
the other thing i find funny is how this has come about due to a post which highlghted ea's bad workmanship and now the attention hs been shifted to martin through unfounded accusations
01-08-2008, 03:50 PM
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well i thought this was old news, i was told years ago
can't see the problem myself I would have no issue with using Martin infact I tried to order some R888 last week funny enough but they aren't available till the end of August!! I would not of thought to check them to make sure they weren't rebranded vikings
hats off to StephTell though for just having an opposite opinion to the usual passionford big hitters
can't see the problem myself I would have no issue with using Martin infact I tried to order some R888 last week funny enough but they aren't available till the end of August!! I would not of thought to check them to make sure they weren't rebranded vikings
hats off to StephTell though for just having an opposite opinion to the usual passionford big hitters
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01-08-2008, 04:17 PM
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ive used martin alot recently, hes a real honest, genuine and helpfull guy.
ii have more respect for him now than ever, posting about a dodgy past cannot have been easy for him to do.
i trust the guy 100% and will use him again without question.
i just think its sad that he felt he had to post it up.some people here should be ashamed of themselves for putting him in this position.... .the rumours should have never even started, its nobody elses business but martins....makes me ashamed to be part of the human race sometimes.
ii have more respect for him now than ever, posting about a dodgy past cannot have been easy for him to do.
i trust the guy 100% and will use him again without question.
i just think its sad that he felt he had to post it up.some people here should be ashamed of themselves for putting him in this position.... .the rumours should have never even started, its nobody elses business but martins....makes me ashamed to be part of the human race sometimes.
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01-08-2008, 04:37 PM
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core fuck me u lke try to cause shit u dont ,the thread got shut do to all the fucking waffle which even u aint that good at, ITS STILL THERE TO READ AS U LIKE FFS and for christ sake read the fuckin rules post can be locked removed when a webteam member see's fit so once again it was mostly waffle
tell you what hooligan steph tell whoever u are dont like it here or they way we do thing go somewhere else to set fire to things
tell you what hooligan steph tell whoever u are dont like it here or they way we do thing go somewhere else to set fire to things
Holy crap, thats the most illegible post I've ever had the misfortune to try and read!!
Where does Pf get its moderators from, nursery school?
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01-08-2008, 04:46 PM
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sounds like someone has a grudge with martin
and is trying to use the internet to destroy his buisness and reputation
very cowardly why not go up to him in private and have a word rather than all this crap
and is trying to use the internet to destroy his buisness and reputation
very cowardly why not go up to him in private and have a word rather than all this crap
01-08-2008, 05:34 PM
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no you bell end
it turned to shit because of some mong going by the name of Susan creating havoc by posting continual shit without ANY proof of what he was going on about. There was no bandwagon jumping. You are the bandwagon jumper because everytime there is a reyland post you feel the need to start another one about it 
01-08-2008, 05:37 PM
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You are quite clearly in need of an explanation of the term 'bandwagon jumper' Rich, if there's one thing I don't do it's that so the Losersmilie is aimed at yourself I assume?
01-08-2008, 05:43 PM
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and no the is aimed directly at you and it has a homing missle attached to it 
01-08-2008, 06:54 PM
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What amuses me is people seem to think that doing something dodgy with Metros is understandable, but that if a Martin was involved in a similar crime involving Cosworths, that's somehow a million times worse.
The way I see it is that Martin has (bravely) explainned his side of the story, and susan seems to want to accuse him of some other crimes.
Whatever the truth, what matters is that Martin is now (and has been for years) one of the straightest and most reliable tuners in the scene.
Why carry on the post and give susan the luxury of whipping people into a nosey frenzy? Jay was 100% right to stop it when he did.
The way I see it is that Martin has (bravely) explainned his side of the story, and susan seems to want to accuse him of some other crimes.
Whatever the truth, what matters is that Martin is now (and has been for years) one of the straightest and most reliable tuners in the scene.
Why carry on the post and give susan the luxury of whipping people into a nosey frenzy? Jay was 100% right to stop it when he did.
01-08-2008, 07:24 PM
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The only posts ive ever read of yours are complete shite, you seem to always direct a thread to make yourself the shit stirring centre of attention
It has been said many times before, if you dont like it then fuck off and stir your pot elsewhere, let a guy get on with his business.
01-08-2008, 10:00 PM
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yeh and even though I have no axe to grind with Reyland/Martin you bunch off ass lickers are pathetic, the majority have no idea or who martin is however you all jump on the 200mph+ escort cosworth bandwagon because you read a few lines in a magazine its laughable you really are so easily led
and to re-iteratrate this has nothing to do with reyland more to do with the pf wank club who have no idea or no inclanation other than to say what they think the big guns want them to say...
as I have alreadly said I tried to order some tyres of Reyland this week so have no issues but some of you are pathetic you want to luck at yourselfs
and to re-iteratrate this has nothing to do with reyland more to do with the pf wank club who have no idea or no inclanation other than to say what they think the big guns want them to say...
as I have alreadly said I tried to order some tyres of Reyland this week so have no issues but some of you are pathetic you want to luck at yourselfs
01-08-2008, 10:05 PM
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yeh and even though I have no axe to grind with Reyland/Martin you bunch off ass lickers are pathetic, the majority have no idea or who martin is however you all jump on the 200mph+ escort cosworth bandwagon because you read a few lines in a magazine its laughable you really are so easily led
and to re-iteratrate this has nothing to do with reyland more to do with the pf wank club who have no idea or no inclanation other than to say what they think the big guns want them to say...
as I have alreadly said I tried to order some tyres of Reyland this week so have no issues but some of you are pathetic you want to luck at yourselfs
and to re-iteratrate this has nothing to do with reyland more to do with the pf wank club who have no idea or no inclanation other than to say what they think the big guns want them to say...
as I have alreadly said I tried to order some tyres of Reyland this week so have no issues but some of you are pathetic you want to luck at yourselfs
Step away from the keyboard
01-08-2008, 10:06 PM
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