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So then, are you going to remburse Ian for his engine you wrecked?
.... or are you just going to ignore him and hope he goes away? Do the decent thing and fix your fuck-up, how can you justify the wastegate fitment, it was obvious to anyone who can turn a spanner that it was never going to work.
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After Harvey fixed EA's catastrophic mistakes (err.....a new engine) I was still nervous to nail it for the first time, and Harvey got shirt with me and told me to go up the road and "rag the shit out of it" or he would do it for me! Lol. So I did...........and then I realised what a proper experienced tuner was and how that car should have gone from the start!
An amazing feeling when you put your foot down and it didnt go bang. I had missed that previously! Lol!!
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But that's why I now ring you for good honest advice!! I will pop up and see you again one day you old fart!
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What ever Martin has done in his past is not my business, i still look up to him for his great work. If i lived in the UK i would have some work done by you to my escort. Keep it man.
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Ian how did you get introduced to Paul Hill,s
I remember Lewis Tall fella telling me about him also
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i also know somebody that had a Cossie built by him kept munching gearboxs and going wrong 560bhp thing covered in stickers
I remember Lewis Tall fella telling me about him also
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i also know somebody that had a Cossie built by him kept munching gearboxs and going wrong 560bhp thing covered in stickers
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In 2003 he offered to rebuild my engine on the grounds that it had a bit of a rattle, which I now realise was just that it had Accralite Forged Pistons and really there was nothing wrong with it and it would have gone on for years!! From that point it really is a horror story........much longer than Martins essay from last night!!
It was me that put Lewis onto Paul Hills, as I did a lot of people, many from here! I guess we all got sucked it by the hype and bullshit!! Sorry chaps. Genuinely. Lol.
ps.....are you sure that Escort covered in stickers that kept going wrong wasnt mine??
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I remember now, a Martini schemed one, cant remember his name!! His was one of many I sent there! Yet apparently he was unable to repair my engine under warranty due to financial constraints! Hmm......
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I never actually had one as always paid him in cash!! But I have got an itemised extras bill that he emailed me after the original engine was built in 2003!
It was an extras bill because it involved fitting a Stack Dash (supplied by me), and the extra "work" to fit and map the engine with the Mountune Throttle system and EGR. All these parts were supplied by me.
The original idea was for him to just supply and fit a new bottom end...using a new block, steel rods and JE pistons, using my crank, head cams and everything else - The agreed price was 5 grand! When I think about it, this was rather dear cos in 2003, blocks were only £500. Id say he was making about £3000 from the labour. When I added the extra bits and pieces I knew that I would have to pay some extra over the original bottom end job, and at one point I had an email off him saying that this extras bill was £2k then went up to £3k. It was only when I picked the car up, that he gave me a £6,300 extras bill! On top of the agreed £5000, plus £3,300 for the inlet, and more (£2000) for the EGR etc.
The extras bill was shocking, it included £140 for fuel used in mapping! Even though the car had half a tank of fuel and the original £5k price should have allowed for mapping and fuel!! Pls £30 for jubilee clips.....surely this was included in the original £5000 price? I think he just used me to bankroll his company and keep him going for a few months!
Stu has seen this bill as I showed him years ago so will vouch that I'm not lying!! Other people have seen it too.
The car never ran right, and would flood from cold and splutter etc.
But the real hassle came a year later when he fitted a GT35 for me, I supplied the turbo and wastegate but he still charged me £1800 to fit it and used 15mm diameter copper plumbing pipe to mount the wastegate...it was too thin and ran too much boost! Blew it to smithereens....I think he fucked the head many times before I had it back and destroyed it myself!! It even did the headgasket on a test drive....which he charged me £600 for!
I think I spent £23,000 on that car in 2003!! And if you allow 2004 as well, probably £26000 in 14 months with EA (less the parts I supplied).....then if you add the £10,000 Harvey charged me after the EA engine went bang, so £36,000 was spent in 18 months! But what Harvey did for me was really special! A very good engine (still perfect in the car now 3 years on!) and was from scratch, because the only thing that was left for Harvey to reuse was the cam cover and sump plug!!! Everything else was obliterated!! Oh and Harveys bill included a fuel system with three fuel pumps, and a swirl pot!! EA sent me away with a near on 600bhp spec car running 8 light blues......with only 1 single Bosch 023 fuel pump in the standard tank!! I could go on but my keyboard will fall apart!!
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I never actually had one as always paid him in cash!! But I have got an itemised extras bill that he emailed me after the original engine was built in 2003!
It was extra because it involved fitting a Stack Dash (supplied by me), and the extra "work" to fit and map the engine with the Mountune Throttle system and EGR. All these parts were supplied by me.
The original idea was for him to supply and fit just a bottom end...new block, steel rods and JE pistons, using my crank, head cams and everything else - The agreed price was 5 grand! When I think about it, this was dear cos in 2003, blocks were £500. When I added the bits and pieces I knew that I would have to pay extra and at one point I had an email that this extras bill was £2k then £3k. When I picked the car up, he gave me a £6,300 extras bill! On top of the £5000, plus £3,300 for the inlet, and more for the EGR etc.
The extras bill was shocking, it included £140 for fuel used in mapping! Even though the car had half a tank of fuel and the original £5k price should have allowed for mapping and fuel!!
Stu has seen this as I showed him years ago so will vouch that Im not lying!!
The car never ran right, and would flood from cold and splutter etc.
But the real hassle came a year later when he fitted a GT35 for me, I supplied the turbo and wastegate but he still charged me £1800 to fit it and used 15mm diameter copper pipe to mount the wastegate...it was too thin and ran too much boost! Blew it to smithereens....I think he fucked the head many times before I had it back and destroyed it myself!!
I think I spent £23,000 on that car in 2003!!
It was extra because it involved fitting a Stack Dash (supplied by me), and the extra "work" to fit and map the engine with the Mountune Throttle system and EGR. All these parts were supplied by me.
The original idea was for him to supply and fit just a bottom end...new block, steel rods and JE pistons, using my crank, head cams and everything else - The agreed price was 5 grand! When I think about it, this was dear cos in 2003, blocks were £500. When I added the bits and pieces I knew that I would have to pay extra and at one point I had an email that this extras bill was £2k then £3k. When I picked the car up, he gave me a £6,300 extras bill! On top of the £5000, plus £3,300 for the inlet, and more for the EGR etc.
The extras bill was shocking, it included £140 for fuel used in mapping! Even though the car had half a tank of fuel and the original £5k price should have allowed for mapping and fuel!!
Stu has seen this as I showed him years ago so will vouch that Im not lying!!
The car never ran right, and would flood from cold and splutter etc.
But the real hassle came a year later when he fitted a GT35 for me, I supplied the turbo and wastegate but he still charged me £1800 to fit it and used 15mm diameter copper pipe to mount the wastegate...it was too thin and ran too much boost! Blew it to smithereens....I think he fucked the head many times before I had it back and destroyed it myself!!
I think I spent £23,000 on that car in 2003!!
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ive lent cash out many times, been burnt few times, ive met lee a few times, top man, and liek myself dont mind helping peeps out as one day we might need the help, but when cunts let you down then its heart breaking
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No, the truth and reason is that, I didnt really know any other of the top tuners at the time and it was only for that reason that I kept going back to him, plus it was his word that he would sort the running and cold start problems that made me take it back! When the turbo was being fitted he said he would sort out other probs at the same time. But it wouldnt run when cold, or warm or hot, because the ends of the conrods came off and the engine turned into a giant cullender!!
I do acknowledge that you did try to get me to go to Harvey many years ago! But I would have similarly gone to Martin or Sheady had I known them better in order to give them such a large amount of money!! I acknowledge that Harvey/Martin/Sheady would have done me a great engine for much less than EA charged me for. If only Id known then what I do now!!
Plus the difference with Harvey was that I always tried to ask him if he wanted some money along the way and he kept saying "Nope, give it me at the end!!". Where as EA had money off me up front and during the job!!
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think the main difference is with the net its fasr eaier to see hownamy people can vouch for someone.
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Now with the all the infor on the net peple are have so much more information to make a decision about who will tune theri cars.
I rememer back in 90's when if you wanted anything done it was either Ripspeed or PRISM motorsport
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Now with the all the infor on the net peple are have so much more information to make a decision about who will tune theri cars.
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See reply to Mike above!!! My money was spent with EA, why should I have gone elsewhere when he said he would fix the running probs! When I went to a car show early in the morning, I had to let the car tick over for 15 mins before I could drive it! I wanted to get that sorted first!
When Harvey and Ahmed did my mapping, on the same ECU, throttle body and injectors, you could drive the car away from cold like it was a 1.1 Fiesta...it was that smooth!!
When Harvey and Ahmed did my mapping, on the same ECU, throttle body and injectors, you could drive the car away from cold like it was a 1.1 Fiesta...it was that smooth!!
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Thats true Ranj, but how many people in this world can you call true friends somebody if the shit hit the fan you could call and they would drop everything and come, thats the type of peson l call a true friend somebody if l lent the mon ey to and never got it back it would not bother me because l know they would be trying to get me it back
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and to be honest, I had met Lewis a few times and he seemed sound!
he was on here all the time and was a moderator so you kinda do feel like you totally know someone....
Back then I was ridiculously bad with money
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A little blonde thing has really sorted my life for the better though and I am SOOOO much better with money....
Still have lots of money outstanding out there, but I got alot back and it won't ever happen again.
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Good things do happen back though! Chip pm'd me the other day and offered to lend me a stage 3 chip, t34 injectors and basically spanner and fit it all and get my Westie up to 330-350bhp for the grand total of £0.00
he also said he would NOS the fooker as well!!!
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Good things do happen back though! Chip pm'd me the other day and offered to lend me a stage 3 chip, t34 injectors and basically spanner and fit it all and get my Westie up to 330-350bhp for the grand total of £0.00
he also said he would NOS the fooker as well!!!
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TOP MAN CHIP!!!!
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chip is a cunt but a proper good bloke/friend to if that makes sense
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Thanks. I was very niave and thought everybody was as honest as me!
and to be honest, I had met Lewis a few times and he seemed sound!
he was on here all the time and was a moderator so you kinda do feel like you totally know someone....
Back then I was ridiculously bad with money
I mean REALLY REALLY bad.... I couldn't tell you my current account balance to the nearest £10k at the time... I was a COCK!
A little blonde thing has really sorted my life for the better though and I am SOOOO much better with money....
Still have lots of money outstanding out there, but I got alot back and it won't ever happen again.![Big Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
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Good things do happen back though! Chip pm'd me the other day and offered to lend me a stage 3 chip, t34 injectors and basically spanner and fit it all and get my Westie up to 330-350bhp for the grand total of £0.00
he also said he would NOS the fooker as well!!!
TOP MAN CHIP!!!!![smiley_abuv.gif](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/smiley_abuv.gif)
and to be honest, I had met Lewis a few times and he seemed sound!
he was on here all the time and was a moderator so you kinda do feel like you totally know someone....
Back then I was ridiculously bad with money
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A little blonde thing has really sorted my life for the better though and I am SOOOO much better with money....
Still have lots of money outstanding out there, but I got alot back and it won't ever happen again.
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Lesson learnt
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Good things do happen back though! Chip pm'd me the other day and offered to lend me a stage 3 chip, t34 injectors and basically spanner and fit it all and get my Westie up to 330-350bhp for the grand total of £0.00
he also said he would NOS the fooker as well!!!
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Good things do happen back though! Chip pm'd me the other day and offered to lend me a stage 3 chip, t34 injectors and basically spanner and fit it all and get my Westie up to 330-350bhp for the grand total of £0.00
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