dickycox

Looking to buy one for the focus st next week wheres the best or cheepest place to start.Iv talked to the boys in puma speed and they want 550 pounds.cheers

pete mcrash

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i'm getting u the direct no. for them.........................and they charge £450 according to my pal.................

pete mcrash

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01482 224433

Christian and Beccy

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I dont think you'll find Dreamscience undercutting the dealers. They are tight on it and have recently made alot more effort with their products changing hands for less than RRP.

dickycox

Thanks for that i will give them a bell on monday.

Lamb Souvla

Best thing is join the Focus st owners club, rrp of the stratergem is £550, you get a £50 discount cos your a member.
And by the way its the best thing you could ever do to your ST, bar nothing.
I had my dreamscience unit before I collected my car from Ford, its the absolute bollox mate.

Mike

pete mcrash

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the lad i got that no. off has just got one for his mondy st220............£450

jonnyboy

get a second hand one,good for 5 different cars if returned to standard.350 should get u a second hand one,join focusstoc.com,spend a tenner to become an owner member and then get the unit sent back to jared at ds to get the duo maps installed.you then will have 9 maps to play with for under 500 quid.

RWD Pete

Dont give puma speed a penny if you can help it mate, cant stu help you out through evolution chips?

dickycox

Any reason why mate but since you mentiond it i did not like the way they slaged off other tuning companys that s not right so i wont buy there.He was also trying to push the one with 5 tunus on me. cheers

Benni

A MotorSport Develepmonts remapped Focus ST would be quicker than a Focus ST with dreamscience. Chances are they will have a dealer local to you.

www.remapping.co.uk.

They should have a dealer in your area, I promise you it is a better option.

Benni.

AlexRS2782

As suggested by others you should be able to pick up a used DS unit with at least 3 or 4 lives left on it for around £300 to £350 based on ebay & recent ones up for sale on the forums rather then getting a new one

Otherwise there are other options aside from DS, such as Bluefin, CodeRed, MSD remap, etc for instance

Benni

I'd rather plug my own laptop in and see what I can come up with myself before I would use Bluefin, and I can't even pump a bike tire up without help.

Bluefin is a seriously tacky piece of kit. My friend had an MSD remapped 115PS Diesel Mondeo and it was much, much quicker than a 130PS Mondeo with Bluefin in every possible situation. Not only that, it was also much, much better on fuel.

Benni.

RWD Pete

Exactly mate they are not mechanics or engineers i have seen some nasty bodges come out of there work shop, the main man tony is simply a sales man.

Lamb Souvla

Thing is with some of the other remap units out there is that they are locked to your car only, and its one tune, and although you might squeeze a few extra bhp's from a custom map of your car, thats how it will always be, and not very good if you still have warranty on your car and it has to go back to Ford, specially if they flash your ECU and you lose the map.
With the Dreamscience all the new units have 5 different tunes to suit what you want, ranging from a entry level map,performance, which is a slight hike in power and torque but better mpgs, performace + which is again a slightly bigger hike in power, then to a midrange punch map called Race, and its big brother Race +, which seems to be the peoples favourite as it produces somewhere in the region of 260-270bhp & 330-340lbs of torque, then the last of the maps which is called DSCI, which give slightly less torque than Race +, but holds it pretty much to the redline as opposed to Race + which drops off at about 5k. these are the tunes from the stratergem which is the mapping unit for slightly modded cars. There is a unit called the Pro(i think) which is for more heavily modded cars and has suited maps for these.
You can switch between the tunes as many times as you want with no probs and return the car to standard for said reasons above, ie going to Ford with warranty.
Another benefit of the Dreamscience is fault code reading and clearing, datalogging and a few other bits.
To say I did my homework before buying would be about right, but it works very very well on my ST and transforms the car.
You can do no wrong what so ever giving Dreamscience a call and ask to speak to Jared/Adam or Carl, they are a seriously helpfull lot and will spare time for you even if you havnt given them any money.

Cheers, Mike

dickycox

Thanks for all the replys ill give dream science a ring tomoro cheers every one.

foreigneRS

a good remapper will just come to you and reflash it in again (maybe with a small charge for travel) - i would.

fish99

my old mans mate has a dream science thing on his focus ST and reckons its the danglies... but he says you can only use it a certain amount of times....whats the deal with that ?

jonnyboy

it can be used on 5 different cars as long as the car is returned to standard,once the 'lives' have been used the unit can be returned to ds to be reset.you can flash your own car as many times as you like witout any bother.

stevieturbo

Anyone had any problems with the Dreamscience ??

A friend recently tried it on a Focus ST, and after it ran like a bag o shite. Car has FMIC, downpipe and whatever other crap was supposed to go with it, bought as a package.
That said.....before the car came to him to have the stuff fitted...the owner had totally fried the clutch too...so no idea how it was running before hand lol

FasterFords

I got a recon'd unit from them, still with a warranty and 5 lives.

was a fair bit cheaper too, give them a bell and ask if they still have any.

Also look on www.focusSToc.co.uk theres normally a 2nd hand one for sale now and again.

alan12112

It's all very well buying a second hand one (mine was aswell) but you still have to pay for a tuner to map it

thats why it costs £500 from most tuners as it includes a £200 map aswell

FasterFords

They come with 5 maps already loaded.

alan12112

if you buy the stratagem and even then they are only generic maps

FasterFords

true, I've got a standard car, so only needed the "off the shelf" map, which the base model has 5 slightly different ones.

alan12112

Cool I suppose it depends on what the guy wants if he has a standard car get a stratagem but if not and if he wants to make the most of the mods he has get the dsf3000 like mine


Out of interest what are all you maps? Are they the race and race plus type ones?

FasterFords

yes, I cant remember them all, but I'm using Race at the moment, the Race+ is supposed to give 270bhp.

Lamb Souvla

Funny you say that, because out of all the custom maps that are offered such as the GGR ones and so on they only offer a very slight increase in power over the generic ones on the strategem.
This is simply because of the time Jared and the team has put into the unit and that fact that Jared owns a ST and so has tried basically everything.
The 5 maps are, Performance, Performance+, Race, Race+ and DSCI, which is what I use as I dont like the diesel like power band from Race+. But they are very good and Race+ certainly impresses.

Mike

PKA

Personally I have had the DS and didnt think it was all that, I have a Code:red 295 its worth a look