3dr Straight line stability............update H13 ARB
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set your rear konis to max set the front to half a turn off max check all joints and bushes front and rear fit sapphire 4x4 rear roll bar and sapphire rear arms check geometries and set them.
and make sure you have a serious front strut brace as the 3 door shell has front end issues and should have been recalled and had inner flitch modifications cos they kept bending
and make sure you have a serious front strut brace as the 3 door shell has front end issues and should have been recalled and had inner flitch modifications cos they kept bending
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Yeah it does.......thing is i have not been in another cossie to compare really.....I bought the car of someone that used to listen to Radio 2 and have a magnex fitted witha 3" tailpipe to give you an idea of how raw they wanted thet car
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tony, mine were always run on full soft (granted i had ahmed springs) but only time they went on full hard was on the ring.
Forgot to say andy i also had a front strut brace.
must say i fitted, new powerflex buses at the front, a strut brace and ahemd springs, all at the same time, and the handling difference to the car was immense, both at low speed and at high speeds.
Forgot to say andy i also had a front strut brace.
must say i fitted, new powerflex buses at the front, a strut brace and ahemd springs, all at the same time, and the handling difference to the car was immense, both at low speed and at high speeds.
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tony, mine were always run on full soft (granted i had ahmed springs) but only time they went on full hard was on the ring.
Forgot to say andy i also had a front strut brace.
must say i fitted, new powerflex buses at the front, a strut brace and ahemd springs, all at the same time, and the handling difference to the car was immense, both at low speed and at high speeds.
Forgot to say andy i also had a front strut brace.
must say i fitted, new powerflex buses at the front, a strut brace and ahemd springs, all at the same time, and the handling difference to the car was immense, both at low speed and at high speeds.
basic rule of thump for any adjustable damper is stick them in the middle
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maybe the price you pay for not having a shit looking car mate
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Think I will bookmark this thread as I am thinking of buying a 3d someday. Allready heared they can wander a bit so a thread with solutions can come in handy.
Good luck with troubleshooting Andy.
Good luck with troubleshooting Andy.
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Andy, this is how bad mine was out when i first got the saff of Martin, AKA Bud-weis, a massive -21...mm![](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/shocked.gif)
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And then afterwards, but it needs doing again so i'll take it this week...
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Chip, yes mate it felt superb afterwards, needs a setting up again now, don't know whether the 18`s are having an influence on how it feels over how the 17`s did, i guess obviously yes they will..
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That was one hell of a way out................But didn't Martin fit a new steering rack, and never had chance to have the tracking done. If the toe in/to out wasn't set, then shis would have affected everything, Camber, Castor...........Everything.
Good to here she's all sorted now though.
Good to here she's all sorted now though.
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Almost every road test of the 3-doors when new complained of twitchiness and high speed wander/instability. In fact, one test mentioned the car could change lanes nearly at very high speeds after hitting a bump. They toned down the original front end settings before release of the 3-door as it was said to be "too aggressive" on turn in
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And then they toned them down even more on the sapphire.
MISTY FQ : Unfortunately YES..............About a month ago.
MISTY FQ : Unfortunately YES..............About a month ago.
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Absolutely right Jim - it was all about offering a less twitchy car - the interesting thing was it worked well on bumpy circuits like the old 1988 Combe where the Sapphire was quicker than the old 3-door ( in 2 different mag tests ). Didn't have the razor turn in of the 3 door though - it's all compromise at the end of the day
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Andy,
Excuse my ignorance, but surely any car would start feeling alittle unstable @ 160 plus??![Confused](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif)
Wonder how the feel must be for the top speed cossie boys?? my old 3dr used to feel like it was lifting @ the rear at very high speed, shat myself many a time..![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
i'd be crap trying to go for a top speed run...
Excuse my ignorance, but surely any car would start feeling alittle unstable @ 160 plus??
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Wonder how the feel must be for the top speed cossie boys?? my old 3dr used to feel like it was lifting @ the rear at very high speed, shat myself many a time..
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Yeah I know what your staying Staf.......but just wondering if there was anything i could do to do myself any favors........!? ![Big Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif)
Thought Id ask as people have a lot of experience with them at this speed over the years + racing back in the day etc.
I would just take it for what it was on another car where there was never any develepment at that sort of speed (if that makes any sence lol)
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Thought Id ask as people have a lot of experience with them at this speed over the years + racing back in the day etc.
I would just take it for what it was on another car where there was never any develepment at that sort of speed (if that makes any sence lol)