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One of my mates split up with his wife a few years ago and things a bit messy between them.
He was paying her maintenance for the kids which was about £200 a month more than she was entitled to and the money wasn't being spent on the kids but she was always in new clothes, hair done etc. He decided to work out what he should be paying legally and has cut the amount he gives her and keeps the rest back for clothing his kids when he sees them.
This is where it now gets complicated. He wants to take his boys on holiday in the summer because she never takes them away (always goes away and leaves the boys with him) and she's now told him he can't have their passports until he pays her the rest of "her" money![Wall](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/wall.gif)
In that situation what can you do?
He was paying her maintenance for the kids which was about £200 a month more than she was entitled to and the money wasn't being spent on the kids but she was always in new clothes, hair done etc. He decided to work out what he should be paying legally and has cut the amount he gives her and keeps the rest back for clothing his kids when he sees them.
This is where it now gets complicated. He wants to take his boys on holiday in the summer because she never takes them away (always goes away and leaves the boys with him) and she's now told him he can't have their passports until he pays her the rest of "her" money
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In that situation what can you do?
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not a lot other than him claim for new passports saying the old ones have been " lost "
which would mean she cant use them if she decides to take them away as they are no longer valid.
Only way around it afaik
which would mean she cant use them if she decides to take them away as they are no longer valid.
Only way around it afaik
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To get new passports he would need their birth certificates though and she won't release those either.
Surely it can't be legal to blackmail him like this?
Surely it can't be legal to blackmail him like this?
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Nothing better than advice straight from the horses mouth!
http://www.ips.gov.uk/passport/contact-general.asp
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it's not legal and if he is paying her enough money (in the eyes of the law) whats her problem?
Get a solicitor involved and get all the extra money he has given her back off the bitch!
Whats the agreement with the kids? Is he allowed to see them once a week or something?
Get a solicitor involved and get all the extra money he has given her back off the bitch!
Whats the agreement with the kids? Is he allowed to see them once a week or something?
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it's not legal and if he is paying her enough money (in the eyes of the law) whats her problem?
Get a solicitor involved and get all the extra money he has given her back off the bitch!
Whats the agreement with the kids? Is he allowed to see them once a week or something?
Get a solicitor involved and get all the extra money he has given her back off the bitch!
Whats the agreement with the kids? Is he allowed to see them once a week or something?
He has the kids one night per week and every other weekend.
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Wasn't that because it was a renewal though? In this case he would have to apply for new ones but I'd guess they would have to go to the ex's address anyway.
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LMAO
I think they might be a bit big for that ![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
I should also mention that this nice person stopped his parents from seeing them when they were over from Portugal recently
They don't come over often so the kids were stopped from seeing their Grandparents and likewise
Luckily they were still in the country the following weekend when he had the kids but had to travel back down south to see them.
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I should also mention that this nice person stopped his parents from seeing them when they were over from Portugal recently
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100% legal and he still pays her more than the minimum he is allowed to pay her. The problem is that he's not subsidising her lifestyle anymore. When they split he let her have the house but she squandered the equity and sat on her arse instead of working.
He has the kids one night per week and every other weekend.
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He has the kids one night per week and every other weekend.
Thanks for the link, I'll pass it on.
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slap the b!tch and strangle her till she turns blue, then when she's just about to pass out, let her go...then when she comes back round, Slap her again and then strangle here again......repeat the process untill te desired items are aquired.
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I know it's not legal but are the Police likely to get involved? At the moment the only way she will hand over the passports is if he gives her "her money"
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if he is currently paying her a set ammount of money, determined by a court of law, she cannot, without legal backing, demand more money at will.
if he can get a recording, this would give him a great case to put forward to receive better custody of the boys.
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it's extortion....not blackmail
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2. Law. the crime of obtaining money or some other thing of value by the abuse of one's office or authority
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take a dicta phone or a hidden cam, and get him to actually record her saying the words "i'll give you the passports if you give me XXX ammount of money" - thats extortion and it's illegal
if he is currently paying her a set ammount of money, determined by a court of law, she cannot, without legal backing, demand more money at will.
if he can get a recording, this would give him a great case to put forward to receive better custody of the boys.
if he is currently paying her a set ammount of money, determined by a court of law, she cannot, without legal backing, demand more money at will.
if he can get a recording, this would give him a great case to put forward to receive better custody of the boys.
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she sounds like a proper bitch, i would be tempted to drag her through the courts to see if he could get anywhere, as surely at least then she cant have him over a barrel like she has at the minute
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he's definately got a case for the CSA if he can get evidence of her demanding money
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She's not a nice person by all accounts. I've never met her but I have heard from people that have.
I think the best way to resolve this is to go through the courts and she was threatening that but I don't think that will happen before he is due to take the kids on holiday. I can't believe a Mother can treat her kids like that
It is not like he is an irresponsible father either, I could understand that. This is all about the money.
By the way forgot to mention the reason he started looking into the payment amounts was because she repeatedly threatened him that if he didn't pay more, pick the kids up & drop them off etc and meet her demands he wouldn't ever see them
It's when he looked into it and what his kids were dressed in that he decided to take some action and he is still paying her more than he is legally entitled to give her.
I think the best way to resolve this is to go through the courts and she was threatening that but I don't think that will happen before he is due to take the kids on holiday. I can't believe a Mother can treat her kids like that
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By the way forgot to mention the reason he started looking into the payment amounts was because she repeatedly threatened him that if he didn't pay more, pick the kids up & drop them off etc and meet her demands he wouldn't ever see them
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No so good. Got a mate going through a similar situation. She drops the kids off regular at his at the drop of a hat so she can go out on the piss with her pals. Gives him no notice. Even if he's already got plans he cancels to look after them as he just wants as much time as possible with them. Yet when he asked to take them away for a long weekend she dragged her heels and made things impossible for him. Then to rub salt in the wounds, the weekend that he had planned to take them away she turned up on the friday night dropped the kids off, said she'd pick them up in the morning and never appeared until the sunday night. No phonecall/text nothing. My mate and the kids were tied to the house the whole weekend as they couldn't get a hold of her and were scared to leave as she'd kick off if they weren't there when she arrived. He could of had them away the weekend.
He was paying her extra money as well, but he's stopped now.
He was paying her extra money as well, but he's stopped now.
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The kids are 5 & 8
I don't get how anyone can treat their kids like this over money ![Wall](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/wall.gif)
That would be so funny and a big fuck you if the kids did find the passports
She would have nothing to use then.
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That would be so funny and a big fuck you if the kids did find the passports
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No so good. Got a mate going through a similar situation. She drops the kids off regular at his at the drop of a hat so she can go out on the piss with her pals. Gives him no notice. Even if he's already got plans he cancels to look after them as he just wants as much time as possible with them. Yet when he asked to take them away for a long weekend she dragged her heels and made things impossible for him. Then to rub salt in the wounds, the weekend that he had planned to take them away she turned up on the friday night dropped the kids off, said she'd pick them up in the morning and never appeared until the sunday night. No phonecall/text nothing. My mate and the kids were tied to the house the whole weekend as they couldn't get a hold of her and were scared to leave as she'd kick off if they weren't there when she arrived. He could of had them away the weekend.
He was paying her extra money as well, but he's stopped now.
He was paying her extra money as well, but he's stopped now.
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I'd try and encourage the kids to find them while their mother isn't watching them!! If they know there is a holiday in it, they will find them if they have to. Kids won't care if they benefit..
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this happened to a friend of mine/my wifes. got permission of his childs mother to bring his son to mauritius with us when we got married for two weeks, flights where late on the way back by 8 hours so she called the police to say he had run off with him - fookin bitch.
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i know its hard but theres fuck all REALLY you can do, its not fair on the kids but they WILL know the truth in the future
hes gonna have to loose the holiday and just wait till there old enough, tell him to put a bit away "hidden" then when he can tell her hes taking them to somewhere in europe but take them to australia,,,, women are proper cunts when they have kids im afraid,,,,, its the ONLY way they can fight
LOADS of guys go through this, my mate had to get back with hes missus to see hes fucking kid belive it or not,,,,,, that was HER rules too even though SHE threw him out on to the street,,,, she discovered life is hard without money
tell him to get on with it best as he can and NEVER slag there mum off infront of them,,,, when they are older they will SEE the truth,,, NEVER lie to your kids then you never have to explain yourself
sorry to hear this though
hes gonna have to loose the holiday and just wait till there old enough, tell him to put a bit away "hidden" then when he can tell her hes taking them to somewhere in europe but take them to australia,,,, women are proper cunts when they have kids im afraid,,,,, its the ONLY way they can fight
LOADS of guys go through this, my mate had to get back with hes missus to see hes fucking kid belive it or not,,,,,, that was HER rules too even though SHE threw him out on to the street,,,, she discovered life is hard without money
tell him to get on with it best as he can and NEVER slag there mum off infront of them,,,, when they are older they will SEE the truth,,, NEVER lie to your kids then you never have to explain yourself
sorry to hear this though
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