safcdixon

i was wondering is there anybody in durham or sunderland with an rs turbo s2 who knows alot about these and the problums they have. iv bought a whole new ignition system except the ht leads and still no spark anybody got any ideas.im realy coming close to breaking the car any realy dont want to but its totally doing my head in HELP!

orionmojo

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one of my mates' ones had a melted black wire from the ECU, under the fusebox ad into the car behind te dash, he replaced most of the ignition system too, and then borrowed my ecu. this is when we noticed!

safcdixon

yeah iv been messing round with th same wire gos right up into the ignition never noticed if it was melted though iv also put a new ecu onit new dizzy (Ł150 wot a rip) new plugs new coil new new dizzy cap and arm i will check that wire again cheers i no its gunna be something real simple but its had me baffled for 6 months nearly

vinnyvangough

I aint got a clue but i'm sure someone was telling me a while ago they had a relay gone. not sure if there is one???

safcdixon

yeah this is also sumit ive been lookin into but it al seems to be fine if any1 has a pic ov there fusebox and relays it would be a big help! cheers

mechanic28

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how did u check the relay

safcdixon

i basicly just checked to make sure they r in the right place and then checked they wernt burnt on the prongs and i have more then one of most relays so i swaped them about i still nothing i havent got a clue how to check them properley is there a right way?

Dan16v

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have u tried the crank sensor?

safcdixon

hello m8 it dnt have one the frst has them but not the erst

mechanic28

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u need a 9 volt battery (the square looking ones)and a voltmeter,but the volt meter to check continuaty (sp)then but the battery across terminals 85 and 86 relay will click then get someone to put the voltmeter across terms 30 and 87 if all is good u should get continuaty!

safcdixon

that sounds complicated but ill give it a shot i think its more likely that its a relay in the fuse box in the wrong place but i realy dont no . does anyone know if these have ignition relays or is it all done in the ecu?

R5FORD

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seeing if the realays are in the right place isnt going to tell you if they work..you need to do as above.. ahve you checked that the spare relays your using are not faulty?

safcdixon

no but if there not in the right place then theyl never work but i didnt know how to check them before but do now

mechanic28

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its easy fella to check them,that is if u have a voltmeter

safcdixon

yeah i bought one a few weeks ago to check the coil has power which it doesnt but yeah i have one. the shit thing about this is that it did start first time everytime since i put the engine in then i pop a driveshaft and fook all is there when its time to start again

Lee Ivatt

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had this on my rst, took days to find it, everything tied up. even the break out box readings.

fault was a short circuit from the coil to the ecu on the spark recgonition sensor wire.

there should be a small green wire coming from the coil, runs round the front past the lights, rad and back up to the fuse box.

if u can check this wire is not broken/shorting. it could be ur problem

orion_crazy_carl

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make sure the loom acorss the front of the car hasnt been cut,the coil wires are pretty exposed,also has it got a immobilizer??

Lee Ivatt

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i.e. the little green wire

safcdixon

this might sound stupid but this wire it cut chopped in everyway possible but its all solderd and taped i had to cut it for some reason when i put the loom in the wires werent long enough so they now go along the back ov the engine bay past the battery my car i a total bodge when i come to think about it haha. does anyone know where the other green wire gos as i know one gos to the ecu

safcdixon

no it aint got an imobolizer

orion_crazy_carl

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sounds like u should just replace the loom,it aint hard and pretty cheap to do!cut ya losses

safcdixon

lol this is the second one but u may be right! but it acnt be much wrong when everything else is working on the car thats why im tryin to get this one workin and it a lot ov cutting and soldering when its in a cabby

mechanic28

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sounds like u might have found it!check the resistance of this wire!bet it is sky high!specially if u got lots of joints in her!

safcdixon

do ya think so i hope! wot ya think do cut it and put one long piece of wire in ? ill hold my hands up if thats wot its been wots happens if its got lots ov joins ? just thinkin tho m8 the black ones the power and the coil had no output will the fuked wire make it resist

xr4x4rs

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check the wiring from the dizzy plug, just disconnect everything and un tape all the dizzy wiring to make sure there isnt a broken wire, you have to go through alot fo the loom and keep doing continuity tests to make sure

thats the only thing i can think is its going to be a broken wire somewhere wither dizzy side or coil side

safcdixon

yeah i hope so m8 ive had the engine out last weekend and the interior out this weekend i just hope its something easy to get to cheers

xr4x4rs

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the coil wires run from the fuse back to the front cross member in front of the rad, so you may have to take the bumper, rad and intercooler off to get to the wiring to check it properly aswell

safcdixon

na mine dnt thats why theres possibley a problum mine now run along the back ov the engine bay im goin out 2 give it a go now cheers for all ya help lads thnks

xr4x4rs

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it carnt do, all mk4 escorts run the same way as there tied into the main loom

safcdixon

it does because i cut it because for some reason it wasnt long enough .anyway when u try and solder a wire and it wont does that mean the wire useless?