MTX-75 GEARBOX Users..
14-06-2008, 09:08 PM
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That im not sure of mate, i thought they ran equal length shafts...
quick search and it says -
Other features include the provision of equal length driveshafts (to combat torque steer) and synchromesh on reverse gear.
quick search and it says -
Other features include the provision of equal length driveshafts (to combat torque steer) and synchromesh on reverse gear.
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14-06-2008, 09:23 PM
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i heard they was all the same aswell ive got a st170 sump in my garage and a 1.8 zetec
might try and fit the st sump to the zetec are you not running a st170 engine then
the st170 sump is a 2 piece aint it
also aint there something about the mtx75 in this months pf mag
i think some come with equal length shafts some mondeos do but the escorts dont
might try and fit the st sump to the zetec are you not running a st170 engine then
the st170 sump is a 2 piece aint it
also aint there something about the mtx75 in this months pf mag
i think some come with equal length shafts some mondeos do but the escorts dont
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14-06-2008, 10:44 PM
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where is the starter on your gartrag st170 box?
i have had to swap back to a rear mounted starter to use the mtx with the focus blacktop sump etc althought the front mounted starter mtx7z off the tdci engines uses the smae pattern as the cvh sump on the bell housing.
i have had to swap back to a rear mounted starter to use the mtx with the focus blacktop sump etc althought the front mounted starter mtx7z off the tdci engines uses the smae pattern as the cvh sump on the bell housing.
15-06-2008, 08:11 AM
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Basically the overall arangement of fitting the mtx 75 and the 6-speed is the same.
The only issue im having at present is the fittting of the sump.
I have a stock 2.0 block in which has all the uprated internals. I have removed the mondeo sump and then had a fiesta/escort sump fitted. However i need te sump with the bearing carrier on it.
I.e a two piece set up sump which comes on the black top engines.
So i sourced a st170 sump(two piece) i then removed the 4x main cap bolts which have the studs to attach the windage tray on the early zetec blocks to fit the new sump.
It still hits on the main cap blts with 2cm to still go until it meets the block face.
???????????The sumps baffled and YES so am i tooo
So im interested to know if anyone runing mtx boxes 5or 6speed what sump they use/what block they have.
The only issue im having at present is the fittting of the sump.
I have a stock 2.0 block in which has all the uprated internals. I have removed the mondeo sump and then had a fiesta/escort sump fitted. However i need te sump with the bearing carrier on it.
I.e a two piece set up sump which comes on the black top engines.
So i sourced a st170 sump(two piece) i then removed the 4x main cap bolts which have the studs to attach the windage tray on the early zetec blocks to fit the new sump.
It still hits on the main cap blts with 2cm to still go until it meets the block face.
???????????The sumps baffled and YES so am i tooo
So im interested to know if anyone runing mtx boxes 5or 6speed what sump they use/what block they have.
16-06-2008, 05:21 AM
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so soon as i get 5 mins i will try and fit the st sump ive got to a 1.8 zetec and let you know how it goes looking thursday till i do it tho im working till then
16-06-2008, 07:03 AM
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the mondeo block has a forward mounted starter
the focus has a rear mounned starter
if worse comes to worse, you have spent all your money on the wrong engine for the gearbox
but i'm sure it'll be a much simpler explanation, such as you've probably thought you were buying a box that has turned out to be a biscuit tin or soemthig
we hope
the focus has a rear mounned starter
if worse comes to worse, you have spent all your money on the wrong engine for the gearbox
but i'm sure it'll be a much simpler explanation, such as you've probably thought you were buying a box that has turned out to be a biscuit tin or soemthig
we hope
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also if its any help i took some pics of my st lump (sump side) and some of the sump
you might see some thing diffrent to ur block
you might see some thing diffrent to ur block
16-06-2008, 07:58 AM
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Wicked cheers mate for putting the pictures up and i have mentally resolved the issue.
Just have to put it to practice now......
For all those whom have little faith though - cheers for the support and guidance !
At worst I will have to have the sump that fits welded to take the half shaft bracket.
The information i have sourced is that the black top blocks which run a differnt oil pump set up also run shallower main caps....
This is where mine hit, as you can see internally on the st170 sump and im pressuming on all the black top block sumps they have the internal ribbing.
I meerly have to trim back these to clear the main caps roughly 1cm on each rib.
All cranks are the same so aslong as the caps clear, and the negines rotates after we should be resolved.
Failing that then its fabriacte a new section on the sump that fits and bolt the bracket to that.
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Just have to put it to practice now......
For all those whom have little faith though - cheers for the support and guidance !
At worst I will have to have the sump that fits welded to take the half shaft bracket.
The information i have sourced is that the black top blocks which run a differnt oil pump set up also run shallower main caps....
This is where mine hit, as you can see internally on the st170 sump and im pressuming on all the black top block sumps they have the internal ribbing.
I meerly have to trim back these to clear the main caps roughly 1cm on each rib.
All cranks are the same so aslong as the caps clear, and the negines rotates after we should be resolved.
Failing that then its fabriacte a new section on the sump that fits and bolt the bracket to that.
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16-06-2008, 12:24 PM
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Jano at oddkidds does a kit to fit equal length shafts and mtx.
http://oddkiddcreations.co.uk/viewto...703b67a9ebd990
http://oddkiddcreations.co.uk/viewto...703b67a9ebd990
16-06-2008, 12:29 PM
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Jano at oddkidds does a kit to fit equal length shafts and mtx.
http://oddkiddcreations.co.uk/viewto...703b67a9ebd990
http://oddkiddcreations.co.uk/viewto...703b67a9ebd990
Already got those bits made.just the sump needs fiiting now cheers mate
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