So.. my cars close to completion, and as a piece of mind i want to install a fire safety system, plumed in type, i would rather a mechanical one over electrical.

who has one or one they could recommend ??

Thanks....

 

why mechanical?

 

i have the lifeline zero 2000 jobbie mines elecrical thou

no better reason then i dont like the look of mechanical

 

i have thought of electrical, and think it would be better cosmetically in the car.. but my biggest fear is if there ever was a fire, and it was electrical, would the system work... ( wiring to the system )

just like the idea of, if i pull the switch.. it has to work ....

 

pull the switch??????????????

eh?

 

sorry key or lever so to speak

 

or push the pull cord

 

there are plenty out there, was after personal views thats all..

 

personal views,in a road car,dont bother,waste of time.

 

no worries mate.. don't want to fit something thats not very good
i have only ever fitted lifeline zero 2000 system`s to other cars..

But thankfully never had to use one ....

 

We use a traditional pull chord one in the pug, never had to use it thank god but so long as you keep the cable greased and free (espec at the top outside end) and you have taken thepin out of the extinguisher there is no way it can't work.

 

A pull corded AFFF (Aqueous film forming foam) to FIA standards is fairly good, however, double up on the pins that secure the pull cord to the bottle and as said, regularily grease the pull cord. I pulled an extinguisher last week and with the adreniline etc it just pulled the cord straight through the securing pins!

I also can't recomend enough a 1.75 AFFF (2.4 AFFF if you have the space/cash) mounted below the passenger thighs as a good initial knock down in a fuel fire. The reason why I say below the passenger is as the driver has pedals etc by there feet so having it below the drivers thighs is minimulising the passenger cell area to extricate a casualty from the vehicle should you bin it. Also worth recomending bolting it in with 8mm bolts, as per MSA blue book regs, it's a heavy piece of kit that'll fly everywhere in a crash. If you do have a fuel fire AFFF is designed to be "floated" onto the fire from above, not aimed at it spraying the fuel everywhere.

A basic Halfords dry powder is a pretty good bet too, it can be used in an electrical fire without damaging wiring (although it will still make a mess) and dry powder is great at putting out a fire, it just doesn't have any cooling properties so re-ignition my occur unless it's backed up with water or foam soon after. The first thing I do when approaching an RTC (Road Traffic Collision) is place a Dry powder (9 litre though) to the front on the car.

An interesting point to bear in mind is only 2.39% of RTC's involve fire (Source:- LM Watson, RTC Trapped Publication) so a car fire is rare occurence now with modern cars, that said I have extinguishers in every vehicle I own.

To summerise it's all down to cash, if you're gonna compete then obviously you've gotta stick to the regs however in a road car go for small dry powder first, then hand held AFFF and then a plumbed in system. The advantage to the hand held AFFF is you can obviously aim it at the fire whereas a plumbed in system is fairly restrcted to engine bay only.

This is the best in my opinion, what would I know though!lol.

http://www.demon-tweaks.co.uk/produc...code=OMPCAB320

Cheers,

Andy

 

Cheers Andy.. thats excellent..

It is only for a road car, 2.39% is low... my thoughts are, i have put a lot into my car now and to spend a couple of hundred on something that could potentially, should the worse ever happen, prevent me losing it... its money well spent...

nothing worse than watching a fire take over while you watch helplessly..

Thanks again

 

i would rather have it and never use it, then need it and not have it

 

I've personally seen the lifeline handheld extinguishers knock back fires dry powders weren't touching. Guess that's why the LifeLines are Ł100 and the dry powder jobs Ł20.

 

but you have all missed the point,a plumbed in AFFF system will 98% of the time not put a fire out,it just delays it enough to hopefully get the crews out.thats in a rally car wit no interior trim,carpets,plastic everywhere etc,so even less effective in a road car,complette waste of time,effort and money,buy either a proper gas discharge type for about Ł1000 or "find" a halon one,not illegal to have,just illegal to sell now,halon puts fires out!

 

Yep, Halon is great. I "may" have an electric Halon system in my garage that isn't for sale, however, if you buy the electrics for it for Ł100 you get the Halon cylinder for free!

 

andy,

how do you get away with your trade website in your signature?

 

maybe due to the fact that I've provided safety cover to Pf members at Bruntingthorpe for free (well, I actually got a crate of beer) in the past and the fact that the MSA stuff I do is voluntarily as a charitable organisation?