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Old 31-05-2008, 01:26 PM
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i know you get more for it if you strip it etc, but i have loads of drums of old cable ( red and black etc ) can i just take them down on the drum or do i have to bag it up ?!!?
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not relly mate you need to gey the plastic coating off,you can burn it off but its a lot less money or strip by hand.prices are very high at the minute so i would say keep it clean and do it by hand with a stanley.
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Originally Posted by c9sse
not relly mate you need to gey the plastic coating off,you can burn it off but its a lot less money or strip by hand.prices are very high at the minute so i would say keep it clean and do it by hand with a stanley.
bollocks,

no you dont,if its unstripped its £1200 per tonne at the moment,if flex take the plugs off now,they were accepted until febuary now they take weight off if plugs left on,
Old 31-05-2008, 02:18 PM
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as said 1200 striped, 3000 bare copper

youd have to take the cable of the drum though
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was at the scrappy this morning. £3 per kilo for copper . best to run along the cable with a stanley blade and peel the plastic off.
Old 31-05-2008, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by fuzzy
was at the scrappy this morning. £3 per kilo for copper . best to run along the cable with a stanley blade and peel the plastic off.
no its not,because at £1200 a tonne including the plastic your getting paid for its weight as well,plus your not wasting time,cutting off digits and you dont have loads of plastic to try to dispose of,no brainer really.
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Originally Posted by Cosworth Rallyesport
no its not,because at £1200 a tonne including the plastic your getting paid for its weight as well,plus your not wasting time,cutting off digits and you dont have loads of plastic to try to dispose of,no brainer really.
£3 a kilo is £3000 a ton for clean,stripped copper so if your only getting £1200 per ton with plastic then re do your maths. ill put in the extra work required to strip it clean for another £1800 anyday. the lesser price will be for contaminated metals .

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Originally Posted by fuzzy
£3 a kilo is £3000 a ton for clean,stripped copper so if your only getting £1200 per ton with plastic then re do your maths. ill put in the extra work required for another £1800 anyday.
Think, if I understand Tim right:

Matey has 2 tonnes of cable total. He weighs in as is - gets £2400

OR he spends hours stripping all the plastic off, losing fingers on the way.

With no plastic on, the cable now weighs just 1 tonne (obviously only figures for examples sake)

So he gets £3000 for the 1 ton of bare copper. But he has no fingers and it's taken him 2 days to strip. No fingers, and a pile of plastic waste left over, all for £600. Worth it? Possibly / Possibly not.
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Originally Posted by fuzzy
£3 a kilo is £3000 a ton for clean,stripped copper so if your only getting £1200 per ton with plastic then re do your maths. ill put in the extra work required to strip it clean for another £1800 anyday. the lesser price will be for contaminated metals .
maths is not your strong point is it? the plastic weighs 40-60% on most cable unless its power cable or similar!!!
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Originally Posted by SiB
Think, if I understand Tim right:

Matey has 2 tonnes of cable total. He weighs in as is - gets £2400

OR he spends hours stripping all the plastic off, losing fingers on the way.

With no plastic on, the cable now weighs just 1 tonne (obviously only figures for examples sake)

So he gets £3000 for the 1 ton of bare copper. But he has no fingers and it's taken him 2 days to strip. No fingers, and a pile of plastic waste left over, all for £600. Worth it? Possibly / Possibly not.
exactly,and it will cost you about £150 to dispose of the plastic if you have a tonnes worth,the local domestic tip wont accept it!!
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id say at least £300 ,probably nearer £500 per day for stripping is a day well spent. cuts will heal.
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plus two tonnes stripped with a stanley knife would take about 7 days!!LOL.
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Originally Posted by fuzzy
id say at least £300 ,probably nearer £500 per day for stripping is a day well spent. cuts will heal.
True, I'd do it for that. I have 8 fingers and 2 thumbs (last time I counted at least) so plenty of spares should I lose the odd one or two!

Just got to find more than the 5 metres of 5 amp wire I've got in the garage!

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so basically,you would strip cable by hand with a stanley knife for 7 days to get an extra £250-450? if you would can you start on monday morning here at 8am please?
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you can weight plastic in at a plastic factory but i think its only 40-60 quid a ton.
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Originally Posted by Cosworth Rallyesport
plus two tonnes stripped with a stanley knife would take about 7 days!!LOL.
Although on that note, if I had 2 tons then maybe not - I'd pay a Polish lad to lose his fingers instead!
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Originally Posted by Cosworth Rallyesport
plus two tonnes stripped with a stanley knife would take about 7 days!!LOL.
a day every weekend for a month. its an amount of money thats not to be turned down. all your doing is grossly overpaying someone else to do the work by accepting the lesser price .
fair enough if you arent as skint as me or cant be bothered with the work but i know what route id choose.
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Originally Posted by Cosworth Rallyesport
so basically,you would strip cable by hand with a stanley knife for 7 days to get an extra £250-450? if you would can you start on monday morning here at 8am please?
if you reckon thats a 7 day job thatll be an easy shift. ill see you monday morning.
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Just stripped a load of cable at work.The cable was about 2 inches thick and i cut it into lenghts of about a foot to a foot and a half with the stihl saw and it made stripping the cable a piece of piss
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Originally Posted by McGoo 69
as said 1200 striped, 3000 bare copper

youd have to take the cable of the drum though

thats all i was after
Old 31-05-2008, 05:41 PM
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if its twin and earth or singles which is what it sounds like it isnt worth the time and hassle stripping it in my eyes just take it off the reel and bag it up!
the only things worth stripping are decent sized armored cable for bright!
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Originally Posted by Gaz 88
if its twin and earth or singles which is what it sounds like it isnt worth the time and hassle stripping it in my eyes just take it off the reel and bag it up!
the only things worth stripping are decent sized armored cable for bright!
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how does it sound like that

6mm and 10mm twin and loads of 10mm green and yellow
Old 31-05-2008, 07:54 PM
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i guarantee that i can outstrip anyone on here

back in my copper stripping days i stripped literally miles upon miles of the stuff

good money to be made in the copper game.
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Black and Red T+E is worth a bit anyway isn't it? To the right people of course
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Just burn it off, no plastic left over and you get more for it
Round here its £900 a ton for the stuff with plastic and £3400 for the stuff with no grease/plastic and the likes on it. Get heavy copper price for burning it an thats like £2300 a ton.
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Originally Posted by danneth
i know you get more for it if you strip it etc, but i have loads of drums of old cable ( red and black etc ) can i just take them down on the drum or do i have to bag it up ?!!?
Sims Metals just off J31 or one of the big scrapyards in Donny will take it on the drum and pay the best price
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Originally Posted by Daveysaff
Black and Red T+E is worth a bit anyway isn't it? To the right people of course
Just what I was thinking LOL

How much do you want for a reel of 10mm T+E posted?
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black and red is old colours, the regs have changed to suit europe you now need blue and brown
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burn the plastic off? kind of defeats the object of recycling the metal doesn't it?

i guess some people's point is just to get the money and they don't care about the pollution from burning the plastic off?
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Originally Posted by McGoo 69
black and red is old colours, the regs have changed to suit europe you now need blue and brown
and if you want to alter existing wiring without putting silly stickers everywhere you need black and red

Not that i'd condone such a thing of course
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Originally Posted by foreigneRS
burn the plastic off? kind of defeats the object of recycling the metal doesn't it?

i guess some people's point is just to get the money and they don't care about the pollution from burning the plastic off?

Ive worked in a scappy for a good few years now mate, and Ive yet to come across anyone who's brought the metal in to do their part for recycling, all about the money in the scrap trade, which is why the boss makes £20mil+ a year out it.
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it's obviously all about the money, and i don't have a problem with that but the wilfull pollution casused by burning off the plastic is unacceptable imo
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and burning some plastic of a pile of cable will make ALL the difference to the environment im sure.
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talking to a couple of sparkys on site the other day they have to do it to all cable left over...
including armoured ... nice job that is...
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Originally Posted by Eagle
talking to a couple of sparkys on site the other day they have to do it to all cable left over...
including armoured ... nice job that is...
yes but the sparky wont be doing it, thats a job for a labourer, cable puller or apprentice.
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right now up here its £3500 a ton bright wire stripped
and £900 a ton unstripped

i dont strip anything under 25mm

but all the crap i strip out like singles and t+e gets bagged in the work in a big builders sack and take them down every couple of weeks

got £160 for the crap last week
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Originally Posted by col cos1
right now up here its £3500 a ton bright wire stripped
and £900 a ton unstripped

i dont strip anything under 25mm

but all the crap i strip out like singles and t+e gets bagged in the work in a big builders sack and take them down every couple of weeks

got £160 for the crap last week
and as ive been saying ,with prices like that i certainly wouldnt mind spending a day or 2 to make over £2500 more.yesterday we took down some cuttings of 316 s/s and still got nearly £300 for them . theres money in crap nowadays.

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Originally Posted by col cos1
right now up here its £3500 a ton bright wire stripped
and £900 a ton unstripped

i dont strip anything under 25mm

but all the crap i strip out like singles and t+e gets bagged in the work in a big builders sack and take them down every couple of weeks

got £160 for the crap last week
not got alot, think i filled 4/5 black bags with unstripped cable, 1 bag of copper pipe and abit of LED but was only sat in the corner of the garage
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