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Old 29-05-2008, 07:28 AM
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been the victim of card cloning.


Some bastard has took £1,200 from my account yesterday and upped my overdraft limit to 3k. The walked into Tooting branch of Halifax and did it all over the counter.


Feeling quite shit right now Just got off the phone from the bank who have put it all thru to the fraud department.
Old 29-05-2008, 07:29 AM
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Ouch. thats not good news one bit.
Hope you get it all sorted.

I think i would be raging knowing some fooker was spending my hard earned.
Old 29-05-2008, 07:32 AM
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Damn. The fraud dept will sort it for you though
Old 29-05-2008, 07:36 AM
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thats fcuking shit news helen..........im sure they will sort it out.
someone stole £10k off my credit card in america last year and i got all of it back in a few days dont panic
Old 29-05-2008, 07:36 AM
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That's horrible and sorry to hear it Helen!

Mine was done a few years ago... ALSO in Tooting and I heard something on the Radio the other day about Tooting having the highest rate of identity fraud crime.

I say we just bomb Tooting. Problem solved.
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I'd defo raging, in fact spitting flames.

I found out more from the woman on the phone, they have used my new card that was sent to me in January, which i never received, i was wondering where it was as the card i have expires in June.

Fraud is going to contact me within 48 hours.
Old 29-05-2008, 07:38 AM
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Gutted !! And all to common these days hope u get it sorted.

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Old 29-05-2008, 07:40 AM
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At least you found out yesterday & not a week or 2 down the line hope you get it sorted
Old 29-05-2008, 07:46 AM
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Had my bank card done about 2 weeks ago, some twats using it in Australia!! Thieving bastards!!
Old 29-05-2008, 07:50 AM
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we had it to helen but luckily was stopped before any money came out. the bank asked me if i was in thialand on holiday as someone tried to take money from a cash machine out there i was in bed at home !!!!!!!! petrol stations are the worst for cloning
Old 29-05-2008, 07:52 AM
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Reckon I might start pulling cash out and paying that way for fuel etc... in future.

Hope you get it back
Old 29-05-2008, 07:54 AM
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dont use you card at petrol stations!!!
Old 29-05-2008, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by RobL
dont use you card at petrol stations!!!
Defo wont be from now on !


Cash purchases for me now.



You alway read about it happening to other people you just never think it will happen to you. I know i will get it backkvia the bank etc as i'm covered for it, its just the sinking feeling you get when you realise what happened to your account.
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This is why I think the stripe on the cards should not be there, as we don't use it anymore, cos we have chip and pin now. Trouble is, other countires, i,e America have not caught up yet, and this leaves US open to fraud because if you don't have the magnetic stripe you can't then use your card in other countries
Old 29-05-2008, 08:08 AM
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Its NOT card cloning in this instance, and its nothing to do with petrol stations

As you mentioned, to take money out over the counter, they MUST have an original card, as the cashier in a bank isnt going to fall for an argos premier points card with someone's credit card info copied onto it.

Relax, as Dan says, you'll get the money back
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Barclays have started a good system for trying to sort out the problems abroad. You can't actually use your card when in foreign climbs, UNLESS you advise them before hand that you are going abroad. Trouble is, they didn't notify anyone of these changes and both Lee and myself couldn't use our cards at the Nurburgring this month . Luckily a quick phone-call to the UK resolved the issue .
Old 29-05-2008, 08:16 AM
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Ask yourself this - has Dave been dressing in your clothes (again) and has YUM got any new shiny bits on her??

Dont worry - you'll get it all back. Its happened to me several times now. Nothing more than a slight inconvenience having to fill out a piece of paper or two.
Old 29-05-2008, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Its NOT card cloning in this instance, and its nothing to do with petrol stations
Exactly it was just plain theft

Must be something to do with the postie!?

Our lass's credit card got raped by some cunt in america last year, just got it all wiped off so dont worry

Year before last a petrol station round here was found to have been cloneing card's, was about 250k in the end. Bastard's
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Its NOT card cloning in this instance, and its nothing to do with petrol stations

As you mentioned, to take money out over the counter, they MUST have an original card, as the cashier in a bank isnt going to fall for an argos premier points card with someone's credit card info copied onto it.

Relax, as Dan says, you'll get the money back

Yes it would seem they already had my card, the one i never received in the post


I cant relax at the moment i have direct debits to pay next week and no money to pay them
Old 29-05-2008, 08:24 AM
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this is becoming so widespread, i'm hearing of more and more people it happened to. this hardly used to happen with the old "signing" method but since chip n pin its a piece of piss for the card to be cloned.

most (if not all) of the banks freeze your account if you use the card abroad these days. we had major probs with natwest when in italy, even though we told them we were there they kept freezing our cards/accounts all the time!
Old 29-05-2008, 08:25 AM
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bet you feel i use barclaycard seem really good but like mike said you must tell them which countries u visiting/driving through before setting off. hope u get sorted
Old 29-05-2008, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Cossie Helen

I cant relax at the moment i have direct debits to pay next week and no money to pay them
Tell your bank then, they have still got a duty to protect your account/money.
They should stand your dd until it's sorted

As your card that was stolen would of had to be activated by some mean's of checking that it is you that has it.
Just kick off about there security.
Old 29-05-2008, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Cossie Helen
Yes it would seem they already had my card, the one i never received in the post


I cant relax at the moment i have direct debits to pay next week and no money to pay them
Sorry to hear about this Helen, I'd give your postman a good slappin
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Originally Posted by James90RS
Sorry to hear about this Helen, I'd give your postman a good slappin
Yeah, definately beat the postman up, probably wasnt him but someone else, like in the main sorting office etc, but give him a fucking good kicking anyway, an assault charge will sort your life out just great at the moment im sure

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Old 29-05-2008, 08:29 AM
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I'd b grabbing your postie by the nuts and having a word! They must have had some info 2 up the overdraft?
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This happened to us 2 years ago, luckily(sp) they only took £300, got the ££ back from the bank after 3 weeks, but its still a bummer though.
Old 29-05-2008, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Its NOT card cloning in this instance, and its nothing to do with petrol stations

As you mentioned, to take money out over the counter, they MUST have an original card, as the cashier in a bank isnt going to fall for an argos premier points card with someone's credit card info copied onto it.

Relax, as Dan says, you'll get the money back
god your a bit of a no it all actually in a lot of cases the details from cards are copied at the petrol station and then used i no this for a fact [maybe not this case] as best mate works for esso in card dept and knows all the scams and how they do it
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i'm with the hsbc and, due to lots of money going in and out of my acount, they stopped the card and called the police

which ould have been great if the card had been stolen, but i was in the middle of buying a house, a car and going on holiday so the last thing i needed was to be with a frozen bank acount while they "investigated money laundering"

when they do something right they get a bad rep
when they don't do anything right they get a bad rep
sometimes you can't win

but at least they know it's not you and the cctv in the bank will hopefully help cath the perptrators
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Originally Posted by space hoppers
god your a bit of a no it all actually in a lot of cases the details from cards are copied at the petrol station and then used i no this for a fact [maybe not this case] as best mate works for esso in card dept and knows all the scams and how they do it
Yes that happens a lot, but not over the counter at a bank like this, those frauds are normally the ones that happen abroad these days, as they dont copy the chip and pin bit, only the magentic swipe card.
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Originally Posted by space hoppers
god your a bit of a no it all actually in a lot of cases the details from cards are copied at the petrol station and then used i no this for a fact [maybe not this case] as best mate works for esso in card dept and knows all the scams and how they do it
helen didn't get the original card that someone asked for in january

so there you have it
someone got her details
applied for another card
used the card to make a withdrawl at the bank over the counter
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chip do you mean nothing to do with petrol stations in helens case or in general
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Have you had any bank statements or utility bills in your name not turn up as well in the last few months Helen?
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I was at my suppliers last week & a transaction for 6 quid got stopped on my business card.....very embarrassing especially as I knew I had plenty on there so couldnt understand the problem - after a series of security questions inbetween myself & the merchant they let it through but them told me to ring my bank. I did this & it turns out they had a load of credit card details stolen - mine being one of them so were checking that it wasnt being used fraudulently....

...like I said, very embarrassing but in a way I'm glad they did check. Although now I havent got a business card to use until they send me a new one out!!!
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Originally Posted by space hoppers
chip do you mean nothing to do with petrol stations in helens case or in general
In helens case I meant.

But TBH the petrol station ones are a thing of the past more or less now too, as with chip and pin you never hand your card over to them at most petrol stations so they can copy it in the first place these days, used to be an absolutely massive industry a few years back though, not just at petrol stations but ANYWHERE you hand them your car essentially, so restaurants and shops too.
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Yeah, definately beat the postman up, probably wasnt him but someone else, like in the main sorting office etc, but give him a fucking good kicking anyway, an assault charge will sort your life out just great at the moment im sure
PMSL Chip, no need to get all like that, I put the meaning it could not be him anyway
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
In helens case I meant.

But TBH the petrol station ones are a thing of the past more or less now too, as with chip and pin you never hand your card over to them at most petrol stations so they can copy it in the first place these days, used to be an absolutely massive industry a few years back though, not just at petrol stations but ANYWHERE you hand them your car essentially, so restaurants and shops too.
Unless you give them your card, to put in the machine for you, and they drop it!! Then ya fooked!!
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Originally Posted by Steve the Plumber
This happened to us 2 years ago, luckily(sp) they only took £300, got the ££ back from the bank after 3 weeks, but its still a bummer though.
Steve, I have no money to pay for the car cover at the moment Will PM you !

Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Have you had any bank statements or utility bills in your name not turn up as well in the last few months Helen?

These are all online, i dont have any sent to the house, same with my phone bill.
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Originally Posted by James90RS
Unless you give them your card, to put in the machine for you, and they drop it!! Then ya fooked!!
oops, just dropped down behind the counter here, i'll just fetch it for you....
*swipe*
ah, here it is, i'll pop it in the machine for you....
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Thats terrible Helen, hope you get it sorted quickly. Scary how easy it is for this to happen

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Originally Posted by James90RS
Sorry to hear about this Helen, I'd give your postman a good slappin

I aint happy with our postman to start with pmsl As he just dumps recorded delivery packages in the porch


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