Chip

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Exactly my opinion too, everyone has to learn, and every tuner refines their knowledge with every customer car they map, but they shouldnt be using a system when they dont even understand the theory of how it operates!

Rod-Tarry

Mark has access to a RR just a couple of miles from his workshop & uses it on a regular basis.

Chip

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Well im sure if Neil has another non road legal car to map on autronic, he'll go down that route!

The Youth.

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Interpro are down that way and tend to be expensive..

steve

COMEDY DAN

Pointless topic if you are not going to name the garage, why put the topic up if your not going to name them, it will come out in the end.

Name and shame for the safety of other PF users chipster.

Chip

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Not my place to name them, I just thought others might be interested in seeing the standard of work that some places let out the door, its NOT just restricted to this one place anyway, so is just a general warning to make sure you go with someone you can trust, and/or get it checked afterwards on the road by someone when you have your car setup on the rollers.

Plus as above, was just blowing off a bit of steam as Im actually quite annoyed that someone has ripped off a friend of mine like this!

Martyn

ChippedUK?

COMEDY DAN

Rogersports????

Chip

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LOL @ All the guesses.

Jay,

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so is it a tuner in the south west then?

Matt Evans

Thats a name i havent heard for a long long time (thankfully!!)

CossieRich

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Chip,

What do you mean: not your place to say lol

Imgaine some other poor sod off here goes to this place and then reports back how bad his or her's car is. What you not feel a little bad knowing you didnt warn everyone here? Its a public forum, you are allowed to name and shame.

Feel sorry for the guy concenred. Well done for sorting it

Chip

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Given that Ive made it very clear in this post I would go to Mark Shead with autronic, then if anyone goes to the same place as this with Autronic to be mapped no I wouldnt feel guilty as Ive already told them what to do.
As I said in the post, I know they HAVE managed to map cars on other ECU's so potentially there is no reason not to use them if you arent on autronic anyway, although I do think that given they have full rolling road facilities they should have realised they had NOT got it working properly and should have sought Mark's help in his capacity of official UK distributor of course, not handed it back still not mapped.

Garage19

Chip,

If they haven't got the background knowledge to have a decent stab at mapping autronics with 15 days to learn it, i certainly wouldn't trust them with anything else!

Jim Galbally

chip, i think in this scenario, where you have undisputed proof that the work caried out was not up to scratch and inexcusable, then name&shame is fine. it's only if its one of these "2 sides to evey story" situations it's not appropriate

Chip

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Garage19, Well their results on other things prove they *can* do it on at least some other ECU's, but I do agree that the fact they thought they had finished this when they hadnt isnt exactly a good sign!

Chip

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My friend has asked me not to name them, partly as threatening to do so is good ammunition, and partly I suspect because if they dont issue a refund he will be sueing them and he doesnt want anything to effect that (not that I see how it would really, but its his wishes so I will honour that)

Jim Galbally

in that case you're ok

costina

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Remember the post about TDI

Best to keep quite imo till its sorted

Very nice car hope the SVA goes ok

Good luck to your mate chip

Paul

Stavros

Can you name who it isnt then?

As surely this is giving EVERY RR place in the South West a bad rep...

dojj

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so they've charged him Ł3.92 per hour then?

even at rock bottom prices, it's still not worth it

but i can appreciate the need not to tell anyone if there is going to be money involved, been there, done that, don't bow to the pressure

COMEDY DAN

Come on man, maybe we could play a little guessing game, maybe you could just put up their postcode...lol Then you havent really told us...

CossieRich

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could have saved 2 pages of people asking who it is by posting that in the 1st place.

COMEDY DAN

Word Rich...

But then it has got people talking on a monday morning.

Jay,

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but if some one crashes there car you have to drill holes in ur own teeth because users was asked that the owner didnt want it spread all over here surely this needs to be public knowledge to save others ? oh boy dont you love the internet

philpy-si

That backs up my suspicion. If it is who I think it is Im surprised as the company in question are normally fairly fair....

tabetha

So your mate gets a crappy job done, that's bad, YOU then alter it and think he stands a chance of a refund when you have destroyed the evidence.
Should have taken it straight to somewhere more competent to get a 2nd opinion, as evidence.
tabetha

JonnyBravo

Bad news for Neil, some people really seem to struggle with Autronic, I know feck all about ecu's but surely its a similar procedure to using any other ecu ?

Chip

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Their map still exists, we saved it off before we touched it, so it can easily be loaded back onto the ecu, and presumabley they also have a copy of it on file still, so if they wanted to suggest it wasnt the same map, they would need to produce the working one, which without his car again to map it on, they arent going to be able to do anyway.

CossieRich

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Good point. May as well name them Chip

Chip

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Rich, see above, everything Ive done can easily be "rolled back" to the shite they put on there.

CossieRich

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How comes they didnt password protect their map? Or did you find a way round it?

Chip

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Mate, they dont even know how to map the fucking thing in the first place, so how the hell would they know well enough to password protect it

CossieRich

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are you saying they knew how to put values albeit shitty ones into the map but dont know how to password protect it it cant be that hard to work out how ot password protect surely

Martin-Hadland

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I would have thought that chip would have saved the original map first And simply used it as a base for the new one and then save it as a new file.

Chip

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Rocket science stuff Martin, maybe not to you or me, but to some people on this forum, it really is

Mark Shead

The Autronic is shockingly easy to map the fuel table, If they dont understand how to map it they dont understand how to map period.
I havent seen the map yet or tested it to give a comment on it but I will be looking at it soon.

Mark

COMEDY DAN

Exactly what I was thinking......lol....

Whats the difference, now everyone knows it was Kenny that crashed, everyone wants to know who mapped the car.....

RC4

some tuners are a fuckiing disgrace!!!
then i,m not naming them!
oh dear chip and you call phil an attention seeker

Chip

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Im not looking for attention, im looking to warn people not to trust someone just cause their workshop looks flashy, it applies to MANY tuners im sure not just this one, so its irrelevant which one this was as to wether that information is useful to people.