foreigneRS

agree with you there Nath

the time depends on the car you're driving, how many passengers, other traffic, weather etc, etc.

you can't compare with anybody really, so there's not much point to it except perhaps as a measure of how well you are learning it if you consistently lower your lap time.

for me, i had a target to get below 9 minutes in our 'ring taxi which was no easy target. but having achieved a target, i feel that i can now forget about times and just enjoy it whatever happens.

marco polo

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hi lads

listen here Jc is no fool behind the wheel and he would make some of you lot look stupid around the ring (not the brown one lol )

I have been in car with him afew time around different tracks and i felt 100% safe , he can drive

I have never been to the ring but will go one day , i would love to put the 3dr around , i dont think i would do too well as i dont even know the track

but my first few laps would be very steady to learn the track if i can


get my beam john of colin ......lol..

marco

15D

Best timed lap in a car was 8.48 in the GTR when it was running approx 450bhp.
Self timed myself on a couple of bikes
FJ1200 9.44 on my 2nd visit
Harley big twin (two up) 14.39

NathR

Anyone know roughly how quick the Ring Taxi laps? I stayed with it from Fuschore to Planzgarten II, I know its mainly show boating and the car isn't being driven to its full potential but it certainly made for entertaining viewing!!!!

15D

low 9.00s

Steven_RW

Marco: I thought JC was asking for peoples lap times. I don't recall anyone questioning his ability behind the wheel?

RW

COCHYN

Average between 8-9 mins in my old black Focus, whilst bricking myself at all times!

foreigneRS

anyway, being good behind the wheel does not mean that you know the 'ring well (not saying that this JC, whoever he is, does or doesn't)

COCHYN

I 2nd that, its really hard to remember all the corners. Guess you need to do a few hundred laps to be really ballsy...

JC

i know it aswell as the next man
i am still learning and improving and most of all enjoying it
theres nothing to win on the ring and an awful lot to loose
marko on the case wth colin

foreigneRS

unless the next man (or woman, sabine for example) has less still to learn than you

enjoying it is the main thing

JC

ok still on topic
how many laps have you drove
i rekon 200- 300

Steven_RW

Probably about 100 or something. Maybe a bit more 120 max.

A few laps in the passenger seat 1 year and 4 laps driving a vectra. Returned in the Evo 6 to go for about 35 laps. Best time in that car was 8:16 on Formula R tyres. It was such a stable package with great turn in and composure that I managed 8:43 on my first lap (1 sighting lap to make sure it was the same as I remembered it). Fought my way down to 8:23 in about 5 laps and than struggled to get much quicker.

Went back in the Andy's evo 8. Managed 8:23 iirc and just couldnt go any quicker.

Went back in the M3, first few months of owning my first RWD car. Got down to 8:20's pretty quickly then managed 8:14.

Someone said that you cannot compare times on the ring because of traffic and different cars etc. totally agree, so I just try and get the best out of what I have. I can compare my times to my previous best and that's why I do it.

Loads to learn on the circuit to get faster and faster however you can memorise it very quickly if you want and learn the basic lines, especially easier if you have a nice stable car and its a dry track.

Can't wait to go back!

RW

Mike Rainbird

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That lap shouldn't count, as we were towed round by that Carrera 4S .

Dingy

8.49 in the escort after about 30 laps....

15.30 was slowest in the wet and fog

Steven_RW

WTF?! we could have gone for the overtake at a couple of points!!!

....and had a huge crash lol..

That was a great lap - loved it.

U must be my lucky charm Mike - fastest laps in my evo and my M3 were with u in the passenger seat. Likewise I was onboard for ur fastest Cossie lap.

Must be the fact my lean 10 stone frame balances out the car perfectly (cough)

RW

Mike Rainbird

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I was sure we were on a 5ft rope .

Steven_RW

Thats what it looks like when you are pushing someone down the track... maybe one day you will learn :-P

One thing I do recall was that we were on a good lap, but there was (as always) a little traffic and that we actually could have pulled longside him a few times. Makes me wonder if the M3 is actually faster than the Evo was. Cos I am sure 2 seconds were available to match the 8:14 of the M3.

I will never know! and to be frank it probably doesnt matter

RW

Mike Rainbird

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We would have died trying to go past and you KNOW it, as we discussed doing so and decided that discression was the better part of valour and that once we had got through, we would not have been able to push as hard and would have looked silly .

Chip

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LMAO

I did that a few times in john's cossie when I very first drove the ring, followed people around (and hence had their lines so didnt need my own) and then blasted past them on the straights, only to realise I then didnt know where the hell I was going, and end up getting passed again straight away

Mike Rainbird

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Exactly, at least the way we did it, it looked like we were on a mission as well and were the equal of him, rather than overtaking and showing up that we were getting a tow round .

It's probably why it took RW so long to better this lap .

marco polo

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i heard he made you look stupid when he was in the clio and you was in the mighty bmw

he is maybe asking lap times because he has got a very good time him self


marco

Mike Rainbird

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Marco,
Might I suggest you read this post where JC quotes his best time in the Clio (8.30), compared to RW's best time in the BMW (8.14) , as it would appear that the only stupid person on here is the one that can't read numbers .

MattOz

8m47 BTG in a 330d Sport, 4 up. 9m12 on a wet track with snow falling.

Did quicker laps in my M5, and one banzai lap in an Evo 6 RS Sprint, but didn't time them. Have been a passenger in a sub 8 minute 996 GT2 and that was amazing.

Matt

Mike Rainbird

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Hey up Matt, you STILL floating around? Haven't seen you at the Ring for a while, what you driving now-a-days?

Steven_RW

BAH!!! I managed a few other laps sub 8:20, I don't think we were driving any faster than normal but I do remember it well and it felt like a great lap either way We had a similar one with a stripped 3 series coupe running an m3 evo engine in it. Another quality lap at a very similar pace to the other car.



As for Marco's comments. I am not sure what u mean, or what u are getting at. Could be to do with croft rather than the ring as that was the last time we were on the same track. I am well aware that there are always faster cars and faster drivers, everyone knows that. I am pleased with my own progress on every track day so far and considering I only tend to get 1 to 2 a year reckon I am doing okay. The M3 is suited to the higher speed nurburgring than it is knockhill/croft which always show off the weight of a 1.6 tonne car on road tyres during the tight stuff. But I enjoyed all the days and thats what counts! (costs a bloody fortune lol)

As said - there is always someone quicker and no matter what lap time someone puts up here, it will be over shadowed by quite a margin when a proper racing driver in a fast car puts up his lap! So just call it how it happens. 8:14 so far!

RW

Porkie

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wow, fair play to Jim as i know how fast you are!

Heard all weekend how fast JC was. Gutted I never got to see it up close. I bet he is sub 8 though

cossymad

120-130

dave cos4x4

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i have only done about 10-15 laps.

Jim Galbally

Si, considering you have wd and more power i'm surprised you didn't pass sooner



seriously tho, cant wait to get some laps out with you next year mate gutted i missed them the past few years TBH

porkie, throw the the keys to your porsche and i'll show you how it's done...




...how to hit an armco at 100mph sideways that is

Si B

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I do have 4wd, not crash wheel drive. I thought your BM was 400bhp (according to it's previous owner ) - mine only has 319 bhp so probably isn't much different to yours.

Last year, no offence honest, but you were a LOT slower! This year you were on fire

The suspension kit and geometry job together with you knowing the car better have made a great difference! I was genuinely very impressed as I'd be buggered in a 2wd car! Not a problem for you though!

Credit where credit is due

Deffo looking forward to a rematch! Maybe at a track soon - got Combe and Croft next if you're around.

Si

Jim Galbally

you'd PWN me round a track as thats more about driving skill than memory of where the corners/lines are

also the 2wd isnt a problem, it wont oversteer unless provoked, really easy to drive!

CossieRich

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Si B can drive thats for sure. Really enjoyed my lap with him

marco polo

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yo mike

all i am going to say is for what i have been told there's a few lairs on this bb about their ring times thats all im going to say

too many people lie about their laps times and if they are doing thoses sort of times then why couldn't they stay with a car that is clearly as you piont out doing slower times

thats all im going to say .......lol...

no comment 5th amendment

marco

cossie500

Done around 30 laps, best was 8.45 in my standard scooby my00, taking my cossie this year but not expecting much as the scoob was awesome.

Steven_RW

Marco - normally your posts are clear and easy to understand - on this topic you have been mightily confusing for some reason. Who would u suggest is lying about their times as I would be interested to know? I presume you have been over to the ring a couple of times and set some laptimes of your own so that you have a reasonable way of guaging what is a reastic lap time?

For a reference point of everyones lap times. Within 3 laps I managed to get the std golf gti turbo hire car thing to 9mins on the dot. So anyone with a bit more grip and a bit more power should easily manage around 8:30 ish as it would only require an average speed of a couple of mph more.

As said there is always someone faster, so no reason why you wouldn't be a little more clear and a little less "cagey" about saying properly what u think.

Cheers

RW

Mike Rainbird

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Again, you should learn to read, as then you would have seen that I was actually the passenger in RW's cars that timed him on BOTH occasion's on his personal bests (8.16 Evo / 8.14 BMW). As you should know by now, I don't do/accept lies....

Steven_RW

Mike, I am wondering if we are comparing the croft session where I was on the track at the same time as the clio and trying to use that to judge nurburgring lap times? lol.

Anyway - all of this is irrelevant. I know what times I have managed on the ring, I timed everyone of them and wrote them all down as usual. Some other people might be fibbing about their times, but I can't really guess who it is as no-one has claimed anything out rageous. I think yours at 8:07 is the fastest that anyone has posted all the rest just seem "ok" in comparison.

Cheers!

RW

Stu @ M Developments

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If i had lied id have at least picked an 8.XX

Mike Rainbird

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Not if you had done a 12 minute lap