X5 info? 3l petrol running costs and tax? - anyone lpg'd one?
06-05-2008, 08:47 AM
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X5 info? 3l petrol running costs and tax? - anyone lpg'd one?
Wife wants an X5. I'd been looking at Mondy ST's but see that the X5's are a reasonable price.
My goal would be to have a 3.0 petrol and do an lpg conversion.
How thirsty are they as standard? Petrol costs are so horrendous that this is a big concern!
How much would an lpg conversion be?
Whats the deal with road tax when the new laws come in? I've heard something about 2001? Im looking at 2001 Y plates at the mo.
Anything to be wary of with regard servicing etc?
cheers
chop
My goal would be to have a 3.0 petrol and do an lpg conversion.
How thirsty are they as standard? Petrol costs are so horrendous that this is a big concern!
How much would an lpg conversion be?
Whats the deal with road tax when the new laws come in? I've heard something about 2001? Im looking at 2001 Y plates at the mo.
Anything to be wary of with regard servicing etc?
cheers
chop
06-05-2008, 08:51 AM
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just seen a 4.4 v8 with an lpg conversion for £11250 on autotrader.
Would they be mega thirsty?
is lpg road tax any cheaper?
is insurance affected by conversion? i guess not so long as there is official paperwork from when it was fitted?
Would they be mega thirsty?
is lpg road tax any cheaper?
is insurance affected by conversion? i guess not so long as there is official paperwork from when it was fitted?
06-05-2008, 10:00 AM
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Chop i have a 3.0I sport and i get around 20mpg average.
https://passionford.com/forum/cars-for-sale/232795-x5-3-0-sport-new-price.html
Real nice big car to drive dont know if there is much differance between the sport and normal but for a big jeep there is very little body roll on mine.
https://passionford.com/forum/cars-for-sale/232795-x5-3-0-sport-new-price.html
Real nice big car to drive dont know if there is much differance between the sport and normal but for a big jeep there is very little body roll on mine.
06-05-2008, 10:17 AM
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basically lpg has gone up loads in the last year, so to justifiy 1 purchasing the conversion and then using the lpg, you need to cover a lot of miles to break even, taking into account depreciation and rising fuel also.
so as ur car wont do many miles per week, i reckon if you bought one that had already lpg fitted, you may see a better return on ur fuel costs, but it is marginal.
im supprised you havnt asked about diesel? modern Td's can be just as qucik as a petrol. surley the X5 came with a tdi option?
and as said above if ur still worried about fuel lpg works on petrol and diesel
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06-05-2008, 10:22 AM
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with what you have said, i dont think lpg will be in your favour too much. i have a mate who drives to spain and back every week in a landrover. he has lpg to run with the diesel, and i asked him the other day if it was worth doing. hes a very shrewd businessman so knows his sums, and his reply was
basically lpg has gone up loads in the last year, so to justifiy 1 purchasing the conversion and then using the lpg, you need to cover a lot of miles to break even, taking into account depreciation and rising fuel also.
so as ur car wont do many miles per week, i reckon if you bought one that had already lpg fitted, you may see a better return on ur fuel costs, but it is marginal.
im supprised you havnt asked about diesel? modern Td's can be just as qucik as a petrol. surley the X% came with a tdi option?
and as said above if ur still worried about fuel lpg works on petrol and diesel
basically lpg has gone up loads in the last year, so to justifiy 1 purchasing the conversion and then using the lpg, you need to cover a lot of miles to break even, taking into account depreciation and rising fuel also.
so as ur car wont do many miles per week, i reckon if you bought one that had already lpg fitted, you may see a better return on ur fuel costs, but it is marginal.
im supprised you havnt asked about diesel? modern Td's can be just as qucik as a petrol. surley the X% came with a tdi option?
and as said above if ur still worried about fuel lpg works on petrol and diesel
i didnt think you could lpg a diesel tho hence buying a petrol?
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06-05-2008, 10:35 AM
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think its the old saying if you have to ask the price you cant afford it.
if your that worried about running costs then i dont think the X5's for you.
my landrover, a 2.5 tdi does about 26-7mpg. this works out to about 20/21p of diesel per mile. (not including insurance, tax, parts etc! just fuel)
so an X5 which is about 20mpg could cost you nearly 30p per mile in fuel if prices reach the predicted 1.50 mark in a few months!
I would really advise diesel if ur hearts set on an X5, or any everyday car to be honest. yes with diesel at £1.20 theres not much saving over fuel, but it will still be cheaper than a petrol.
06-05-2008, 10:35 AM
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how big are the tanks though?
not a problem if you can put 200 litres in there and go around the world on a tank full, but if it's got a titchy tank and you've got to fill up more often than clarksons ford gt then you've got something to think about
not a problem if you can put 200 litres in there and go around the world on a tank full, but if it's got a titchy tank and you've got to fill up more often than clarksons ford gt then you've got something to think about
06-05-2008, 10:52 AM
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Tank will take about £70 to be honest i have never took note of how many miles from a full tank. I had a vectra GSI before and i wouldnt say the X5 is any worse than that, had it over to ava and back the other day and used less the £20 of fuel. Pity you werent closer or you could of had a shot of mine for the day to see if you like them.
06-05-2008, 04:08 PM
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Was going to go up with Euan but then i found out what time they were leaving , no chance i would of been fit to drive at that time 
. If your down this way give me a shout and you can have a shot, just been and booked it in at BMW for a service not as bad as i thought it would be.
. If your down this way give me a shout and you can have a shot, just been and booked it in at BMW for a service not as bad as i thought it would be.
fook that for a game of soldiers
06-05-2008, 05:01 PM
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yup lpg works on diesel or petrol
think its the old saying if you have to ask the price you cant afford it.
if your that worried about running costs then i dont think the X5's for you.
my landrover, a 2.5 tdi does about 26-7mpg. this works out to about 20/21p of diesel per mile. (not including insurance, tax, parts etc! just fuel)
so an X5 which is about 20mpg could cost you nearly 30p per mile in fuel if prices reach the predicted 1.50 mark in a few months!
I would really advise diesel if ur hearts set on an X5, or any everyday car to be honest. yes with diesel at £1.20 theres not much saving over fuel, but it will still be cheaper than a petrol.
think its the old saying if you have to ask the price you cant afford it.
if your that worried about running costs then i dont think the X5's for you.
my landrover, a 2.5 tdi does about 26-7mpg. this works out to about 20/21p of diesel per mile. (not including insurance, tax, parts etc! just fuel)
so an X5 which is about 20mpg could cost you nearly 30p per mile in fuel if prices reach the predicted 1.50 mark in a few months!
I would really advise diesel if ur hearts set on an X5, or any everyday car to be honest. yes with diesel at £1.20 theres not much saving over fuel, but it will still be cheaper than a petrol.
Haulage firms use it but not all the time as it can kill a truck engine so you can imagine what it will do a smaller engine 
NOBODY has made it work 100% without destroying something so we simply stay well away and advise anyone else to do the same.I've converted a fair few X5's now, mainly 4.4 and 4.6 but a few of the 3litres too.
The 3 litre is a bit sluggish IMO but then its posibly not quite as harsh on your pocket as a 4.4 or 4.6, tank wise we fit a 95litre tank (77 usable litres ) where the spare was, if the vehicle has air suspension (which I think they all have ? ) then the air pump needs relocating and I do think that is the only downfall to the conversion as I've never seen one converted that doesn't end up with a louder pump once moved.
Other but that they are a superb car, I've got several companys I deal with who have the diesel version and they said they are horrific on fuel and are thus changing to petrol versions converted to LPG.
Take a look at this useful website I know of
www.gastech.org.uk
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If its mainly town driving I don't know how the hell its going to manage 20mpg on a 3.0 petrol.
My dad's E60 520i just averages over 20 mpg and sometimes its in the 19s and he doesnt drive it like he stole it. So I don't understand how you'd get a church with a 3.0 petrol to do 20mpg, in town that is for shortish journeys and usual sort of traffic (London speaking)
My dad's E60 520i just averages over 20 mpg and sometimes its in the 19s and he doesnt drive it like he stole it. So I don't understand how you'd get a church with a 3.0 petrol to do 20mpg, in town that is for shortish journeys and usual sort of traffic (London speaking)
06-05-2008, 05:19 PM
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Chop,
here is my swing on it
after baby Oisin was born evo9 was a little unpractical to say the least(how can something so small need so much crap)so the quest was on for a new motor and the x5 ticked all the boxes.
1. its safe
2. its go loads of room
3. its comfy
4. its got all the toys(sat nav,heated seats bla bla bla)
5. its goes bloody well
6. build quality is very good
just out of interest whats the other options
here is my swing on it
after baby Oisin was born evo9 was a little unpractical to say the least(how can something so small need so much crap)so the quest was on for a new motor and the x5 ticked all the boxes.
1. its safe
2. its go loads of room
3. its comfy
4. its got all the toys(sat nav,heated seats bla bla bla)
5. its goes bloody well
6. build quality is very good
just out of interest whats the other options
06-05-2008, 05:42 PM
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Have you run a diesel on LPG yourself Haulage firms use it but not all the time as it can kill a truck engine so you can imagine what it will do a smaller engine NOBODY has made it work 100% without destroying something so we simply stay well away and advise anyone else to do the same.
I've converted a fair few X5's now, mainly 4.4 and 4.6 but a few of the 3litres too.
The 3 litre is a bit sluggish IMO but then its posibly not quite as harsh on your pocket as a 4.4 or 4.6, tank wise we fit a 95litre tank (77 usable litres ) where the spare was, if the vehicle has air suspension (which I think they all have ? ) then the air pump needs relocating and I do think that is the only downfall to the conversion as I've never seen one converted that doesn't end up with a louder pump once moved.
Other but that they are a superb car, I've got several companys I deal with who have the diesel version and they said they are horrific on fuel and are thus changing to petrol versions converted to LPG.
Take a look at this useful website I know of
www.gastech.org.uk
Haulage firms use it but not all the time as it can kill a truck engine so you can imagine what it will do a smaller engine NOBODY has made it work 100% without destroying something so we simply stay well away and advise anyone else to do the same.I've converted a fair few X5's now, mainly 4.4 and 4.6 but a few of the 3litres too.
The 3 litre is a bit sluggish IMO but then its posibly not quite as harsh on your pocket as a 4.4 or 4.6, tank wise we fit a 95litre tank (77 usable litres ) where the spare was, if the vehicle has air suspension (which I think they all have ? ) then the air pump needs relocating and I do think that is the only downfall to the conversion as I've never seen one converted that doesn't end up with a louder pump once moved.
Other but that they are a superb car, I've got several companys I deal with who have the diesel version and they said they are horrific on fuel and are thus changing to petrol versions converted to LPG.
Take a look at this useful website I know of
www.gastech.org.uk
guess u know you stuff as u work with it tho mate. im really supprised at ur last comment about the lpg petrol being cheaper than the diesel x5's. guess its cos diesel is so stupidly expensive now!
06-05-2008, 05:53 PM
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As you have pointed out the Land Rover runs both fuels so technically its not "that" much of a saving, I certainly wouldn't be putting it anywhere near a X5 diesel, far too many horror stories and warranty claims to even want to get involved.
The petrol X5 on LPG is apparently cheaper to run than a diesel version, that was before the hike in fuel costs too, however I can't genuinelly comment as I've not owned either but I do know from our customers that they have saved a fortune on their annual fuel bill.
A small example of diesel VS petrol savings, one of my main customers who have a hundreds of vehicles did run diesels upto 2006, in 2007 alone they saved over 2 million on their fuel bill, now that shows the benefits, we convert vehicles for Ford, Citroen and Peugeot from new to suit customer and main dealer requirements, a lot of the London sales is based on the Congestion Charge but most of our customers don't go anywhere near London so its not a problem if they scrap the Congestion Charge for certain LPG vehicles.
The petrol X5 on LPG is apparently cheaper to run than a diesel version, that was before the hike in fuel costs too, however I can't genuinelly comment as I've not owned either but I do know from our customers that they have saved a fortune on their annual fuel bill.
A small example of diesel VS petrol savings, one of my main customers who have a hundreds of vehicles did run diesels upto 2006, in 2007 alone they saved over 2 million on their fuel bill, now that shows the benefits, we convert vehicles for Ford, Citroen and Peugeot from new to suit customer and main dealer requirements, a lot of the London sales is based on the Congestion Charge but most of our customers don't go anywhere near London so its not a problem if they scrap the Congestion Charge for certain LPG vehicles.
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