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Old 01-05-2008, 12:30 PM
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looking at getting a evo 6, fancy a change from fords,what they like,are they better on fuel than a subaru??just sold my 3dr cosworth so fancy sumthik i can use eveyday
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Of all the things an Evo is, economical isn't one of them.
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an evo is probably the
least economical of all of them
Old 01-05-2008, 12:40 PM
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Ive Had A Sti Impreza That Was The Worst Ive Ever Had,had Rst,cosworths,just Fancied A Change,and Even The Missus Likes The Look Of The Evo 6,surely They Better Than Sti?
Old 01-05-2008, 12:48 PM
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the 2 evo 6's i had were crap on fuel tbh but about the same as type ra subaru
a uk impreza turbo was ok ish, evo 6 attracts head bangers.
a later evo with a 6 speed on a run is good on fuel really
Old 01-05-2008, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by cozzfather
the 2 evo 6's i had were crap on fuel tbh but about the same as type ra subaru
a uk impreza turbo was ok ish, evo 6 attracts head bangers.
a later evo with a 6 speed on a run is good on fuel really
I have one and the evo is not good on fuel
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I cant work out where the fuel actually goes on an evo, they pass emissions so it cant come out the exhaust, and it certainly doesnt seem like much of it goes into propelling them along.
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
I cant work out where the fuel actually goes on an evo, they pass emissions so it cant come out the exhaust, and it certainly doesnt seem like much of it goes into propelling them along.
driving the oil pump to acieve the 8 bar pressure they run and 10:1 afr to stop them deting at the nasp comp ratio they run
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Originally Posted by Mitsy FQ
driving the oil pump to acieve the 8 bar pressure they run and 10:1 afr to stop them deting at the nasp comp ratio they run
LOL!

Might be a good contender to run on E85 though
(well in europe where they dont get raped on tax buying it!)
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Well, I've always put it down to the fact that you can hear the turbo starting to spool at 2000rpm on a standard Evo! Must start dumping the fuel in then, so its hard to drive it off boost.
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They are off boost when sat on a motorway under vacuum conditions when cruising though?
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
They are off boost when sat on a motorway under vacuum conditions when cruising though?
Well, yes, until you touch the throttle. I think it is merely that they are on boost at such low load that saps the fuel. Thats my view on it anyway.
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
They are off boost when sat on a motorway under vacuum conditions when cruising though?
don't think they ever see vacumn they need boost to drive the oil pump
Old 01-05-2008, 01:36 PM
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@ you and that fucking oil pump
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
@ you and that fucking oil pump
how many horse power is required to drive a fluid pump @ 8 bar and these flow rates chip
it probably has quite a bit to do with the fuel used
Old 01-05-2008, 01:44 PM
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LOL, fair enough, if its like 10bhp or something,then yes that would have a massively marked effect on economy when cruising along at a motorway speed that only takes 50bhp to sustain!
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My evo was a good car but not for everyday use as above the fuel they use is unbeleivable! & the 6 dosent hold that much so before you go anywhere you need to make sure you have plenty;..& it was only running 1.3 bar foook one that runs anymore than that
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
LOL, fair enough, if its like 10bhp or something,then yes that would have a massively marked effect on economy when cruising along at a motorway speed that only takes 50bhp to sustain!
or get a poous even that is only average mpg on a motorway run
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Originally Posted by carlo
My evo was a good car but not for everyday use as above the fuel they use is unbeleivable! & the 6 dosent hold that much so before you go anywhere you need to make sure you have plenty;..& it was only running 1.3 bar foook one that runs anymore than that
Maybe more boost is the answer, if you drive at 200mph instead of 60mph, you will get there a lot quicker and not have to run that greedy oil pump for so long
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lol at the greedy greedy oil pump
Old 01-05-2008, 01:56 PM
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buy a poous and you will soon learn that good mpg is all to do with the way you drive and your driving cycle ie short journeys cold starts ,big hills cruise speed etc etc
the poous is not good when driven hard at high speed ,maintaining 100mph in the poous would probably return less mpg than my evo doing the same speed
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The technology in the prius isnt designed for long journeys at a constant speed, it offers nothing to help you there that the correct gear ratio cant do better!
Old 01-05-2008, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
The technology in the prius isnt designed for long journeys at a constant speed, it offers nothing to help you there that the correct gear ratio cant do better!
it does have an award winning 1500cc 4 cylinder eco warrior engine an awful lot of development to get very liitle gains mpg wise over existing engines
mitsibushi spent huge money on their direct injection petrol engine technology and that wasn't any beter than what already existed really
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I might get a prius and put a diesel engine in it, lol
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well can't fault my Mr FQ320 for fuel defo no worse than my 380bhp cossie i'm getting over 200+ miles to a full tank
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
I might get a prius and put a diesel engine in it, lol
or shall i turbo charge my poous
the poous comes standard with esc and would embarress evo's cossies an scoobys round corners
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Originally Posted by silky16v
well can't fault my Mr FQ320 for fuel defo no worse than my 380bhp cossie i'm getting over 200+ miles to a full tank
You got any pics of the car mate? 6 gears help on them my evo6 could have done with another gear
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Well, yes, until you touch the throttle. I think it is merely that they are on boost at such low load that saps the fuel. Thats my view on it anyway.
Maybe the size of the standard injectors have something to do with it!

I can't remember for love nor money, but I have heard thats the 6's have a smaller tank than the 7's,8's and 9's so maybe lays your 2 issues of having bad economy
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Originally Posted by silky16v
well can't fault my Mr FQ320 for fuel defo no worse than my 380bhp cossie i'm getting over 200+ miles to a full tank
thats 20mpg WOW
what does it do to a tank full when you actually start the engine roflol
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Originally Posted by Mitsy FQ
or shall i turbo charge my poous
the poous comes standard with esc and would embarress evo's cossies an scoobys round corners

Ive never really driven a prius hard enough to test the ESC, ive just glided around slowly in one marvelling at the lack of noise mainly, lol

However I did some testdriving for Toyota GB over at millbrook proving ground of the avensis with the same system, and it truely is awesome, not sure if you were being sarcastic or not, but the system in the avensis really impressed me, it turned a poor handling barge of a family car into something very nimble indeed, I was going through a set of cones like I would in my trackday mini I owned at the time, was VERY cool technology I thought!
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Originally Posted by Mitsy FQ
thats 20mpg WOW
what does it do to a tank full when you actually start the engine roflol

On my 9 it looks like from full tank drops down to 3/4 sometimes! Then when you drive it on the road after letting it warm up its kinda goes back up!
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Ive never really driven a prius hard enough to test the ESC, ive just glided around slowly in one marvelling at the lack of noise mainly, lol

However I did some testdriving for Toyota GB over at millbrook proving ground of the avensis with the same system, and it truely is awesome, not sure if you were being sarcastic or not, but the system in the avensis really impressed me, it turned a poor handling barge of a family car into something very nimble indeed, I was going through a set of cones like I would in my trackday mini I owned at the time, was VERY cool technology I thought!
not being sarcastic the handling is unreal the pile of pooh just wont let go or even tyre squeal
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Originally Posted by silky16v
well can't fault my Mr FQ320 for fuel defo no worse than my 380bhp cossie i'm getting over 200+ miles to a full tank
You have an evo already?

Im always the last to know
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Originally Posted by Mitsy FQ
not being sarcastic the handling is unreal the pile of pooh just wont let go or even tyre squeal
Fair enough, much like my opinion of the ESC avensis then, I think most people would be genuinely surprised if they drove one!
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My tme used to return around 190 miles from a tank of Optimax until I had the Autronic upgrade, it then went up to around 220 miles per tank
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Originally Posted by A J
My tme used to return around 190 miles from a tank of Optimax until I had the Autronic upgrade, it then went up to around 220 miles per tank
still crap though if that is all we can get out of a tank full
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Shows how overly safe the standard map is if sheady was able to find more than 15% better economy out of it!
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My evo never got more than 100 miles to a tank - but it wasn't used as a "motorway cruiser" It was quite frankly, TERRIBLE on fuel.

According to AVA when I had mine on the rollers, it went rich the second the car ever sniffed boost, as tony says, as a pre-caution to det.

According to anyone who ever drove behind it, it produced a grey haze of unburnt fuel everywhere it went.

This is the first time I have heard that they have a mega oil pump! - interesting info. Presume it increases reliability when they are running high oil temps and being pushed hard? I think the M3's from the evo onwards have 2.

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Originally Posted by Mitsy FQ
still crap though if that is all we can get out of a tank full
Yes, but you also have to remember that an evo fuel tank is quite small compared to some cars so you're obviously putting in less fuel to start with (around £40 used to top the tank up) hence why it does less miles than say a car you're putting in £70 worth of fuel.
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Originally Posted by A J
Yes, but you also have to remember that an evo fuel tank is quite small compared to some cars so you're obviously putting in less fuel to start with (around £40 used to top the tank up) hence why it does less miles than say a car you're putting in £70 worth of fuel.
thank you for pointing that out aj as you know I have a 6 and a 9 and am very familiar with fuel stations as is my wallet rolfol
£40 to top the tank up when did you last go to a fuel sation or do you visit every one you pass as you have an evo roflol

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