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Old 14-04-2008, 01:21 PM
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Need some oil for my YB after its winter hibination.

Mobil 1 motorsport?

What vicousity?

Also where is cheapest to get it?

Car is a road car.
Old 14-04-2008, 01:23 PM
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10w50 Silkolene Pro S.
oilman on here or http://www.opieoils.co.uk/Default.aspx
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Matt Lewis......

Pete..
Old 14-04-2008, 01:26 PM
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Ryan,

Deffo silkolene pro s
Old 14-04-2008, 01:38 PM
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mobil 1 mate
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Originally Posted by Ryan
Need some oil for my YB after its winter hibination.

Mobil 1 motorsport?

What vicousity?

Also where is cheapest to get it?

Car is a road car.

Ryan,
5 litres of ProS is £47 and I can bring it to Santa Pod at the weekend, but I guess that would be too late .
Old 14-04-2008, 01:56 PM
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you think mike
Old 14-04-2008, 01:58 PM
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Would cost an additional £10 to send it then .
Old 14-04-2008, 01:58 PM
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Nah, you'll make it to the pod with no oil Ryan
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Mobile1 from matt lewis mate.
Old 14-04-2008, 02:18 PM
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so which oil out of the 2?
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There is only one choice .

I USED to stock Mobil 1 and Castrol RS, but after my own experience with these oils (the Mobil loses pressure at high temps and the Castrol unwinds its molecules and expands), plus the extensive tests that Rod carried out, I now only stock the Silkolene. I could easily get either of the others and it IS cheaper, but I only sell things I would be happy using personally.
Old 14-04-2008, 02:27 PM
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I changed from castrol to silkolene and straight away you could hear the difference of cold start up
Old 14-04-2008, 02:28 PM
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right best order some now then
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Rainbird are you having a stand at pod this weekend?
I am on running in oil for my zetec turbo atm. I will be drumping it out in 400 miles and want to change tosikolene soon.
J
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ordered.

Cheers for the advice everyone, and mike as usual.

Ordered from Oilman
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Originally Posted by Ryan
ordered.

Cheers for the advice everyone, and mike as usual.

Ordered from Oilman
Coolio dude, you at action day this sat?
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
There is only one choice .

I USED to stock Mobil 1 and Castrol RS, but after my own experience with these oils (the Mobil loses pressure at high temps and the Castrol unwinds its molecules and expands), plus the extensive tests that Rod carried out, I now only stock the Silkolene. I could easily get either of the others and it IS cheaper, but I only sell things I would be happy using personally.
I had results of Chemical analysis done on Castrol RS & Silkolene after Topspeed runs. The RS was way out of Spec & had a very high Petrol content & small traces of metal. The Silkolene ran hotter had very low Petrol content & no metal traces & remained within Spec.
Up to that point I did not want to change from Castrol & turned down free oil, the results from an independant chemist changed my mind & I would not use any other oil. Kieth Cowie also uses Silkolene.
Old 14-04-2008, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ECOS95
10w50 Silkolene Pro S.
oilman on here or http://www.opieoils.co.uk/Default.aspx
The best stuff for your cos.
Old 14-04-2008, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MadRod
I had results of Chemical analysis done on Castrol RS & Silkolene after Topspeed runs. The RS was way out of Spec & had a very high Petrol content & small traces of metal. The Silkolene ran hotter had very low Petrol content & no metal traces & remained within Spec.
Up to that point I did not want to change from Castrol & turned down free oil, the results from an independant chemist changed my mind & I would not use any other oil. Kieth Cowie also uses Silkolene.
Interesting..........

Goes to show what becomes of marketing and peoples perception of the ''big'' names and that they are not necessarily the best option out there.
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MadRod
so you didn't test the Mobil 1 Motorsport oil ????

What is the significance of fuel and metals in the oil??? Is it not the job of the oil to collect contaminants.
I would have thought it is down to the condition of the engine resulting in higher contaminants, overfuelling leading to fuel in the oil etc etc.

Slightly confused , looking to learn, i do understand a little chemistry.
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Originally Posted by Ollie MK5 Turbo
Rainbird are you having a stand at pod this weekend?
I am on running in oil for my zetec turbo atm. I will be drumping it out in 400 miles and want to change tosikolene soon.
J
I am on the Norfolk Group stand .
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
There is only one choice .

I USED to stock Mobil 1 and Castrol RS, but after my own experience with these oils (the Mobil loses pressure at high temps and the Castrol unwinds its molecules and expands), plus the extensive tests that Rod carried out, I now only stock the Silkolene. I could easily get either of the others and it IS cheaper, but I only sell things I would be happy using personally.
Thats interesting Mike as im seeing a drop in oil pressure when shes warm after switching to MObile 1.. Time for a change me thinks
Old 14-04-2008, 04:44 PM
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would like to hear what the "old man" said about mobil 1 15/50....i've only ever used it in a cossie.......................(by the way if u want it at the best price possible phone matt lewis)..........i'd rather buy the best for the engine/car......
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silkolene is the best cossie oil imo..
Old 14-04-2008, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by pete mcrash
would like to hear what the "old man" said about mobil 1 15/50....i've only ever used it in a cossie.......................(by the way if u want it at the best price possible phone matt lewis)..........i'd rather buy the best for the engine/car......
Matt Lewis is HALF the price of fookin Halfrauds!
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Originally Posted by Dave Ridge
MadRod
so you didn't test the Mobil 1 Motorsport oil ????

What is the significance of fuel and metals in the oil??? Is it not the job of the oil to collect contaminants.
I would have thought it is down to the condition of the engine resulting in higher contaminants, overfuelling leading to fuel in the oil etc etc.

Slightly confused , looking to learn, i do understand a little chemistry.

Metal is obviously wear, we are talking minute wear but wear all the same.
After a Topspeed run on RS Castrol my newly rebuilt engine had 8% concentration of Fuel in the sump this affected the oil & its ability to lubricate. Remember 8.4k. Nitrous & 200+mph are a strain on any engine .
Using Silkolene showed no metal wear, still within Spec as a Lubricant & less than 2% Fuel, that was on Mikes suggested oil.
Opie oils then suggested I use a 5-40 oil from there range which was more expensive it solved all the problems.
Not sure of all the ins & outs but the expensive oil ran hot enough to burn off any petrol by-pass under these extreme conditions the other oils only partly did this & became comtaminated. Remember we are trying to protect an engine not worry about using a bit of oil. Oil pressure dropped as they said it would, showing that high oil pressure does not mean good lubrication.
Please dont ask any technical questions of me, cos I dont know or care about any other technical details.

ps. If i had suggested to Mark Shead that I was going to use Mobil 1, he would not have put the engine in the car & probably used it for his hair.
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interesting thread
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Rod,

Sorry if I'm being short sighted or something, but surely the oil would not get chance to have any fuel in there is the fuel was spot on?

Confused, and willing to learn
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..............just when mobil 1 15/50 say's it's developed buy cosworth......u tend to think it's up to the job........
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Mobil 1 for me i still thinks.
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Originally Posted by pete mcrash
..............just when mobil 1 15/50 say's it's developed buy cosworth......u tend to think it's up to the job........
Seriously after talking to Rod and Mark and reading about oils from oil man on here, there is no way i would use mobil 1 or castrol rs. Just Silkolene pro s
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Originally Posted by Dave Ridge
Mobil 1 for me i still thinks.
Why, when there are oils that are better and have been proven better?
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mobil 1..........fukn ell i've got loads in the shed.............i change it every 3-4k (big sump aswell)................(foreign rs told me aswell)............time for a change then
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...jeezs....in a road car normal mineral oil is fine!...infact even a track car dont need anything much better!......do you honestly think you would notice any longevity difference in your engine?...Rod maybe needs a better quality lube due to extreme coinditions...but for most its all a con really as the actual quality of oil only dictates the oil life..ie you can go upto 20k miles before any degrading on for example mobil 1 and no cossie has that done..more like every 3k its changed a waste of money!...Having said that my merc runs mobil 1 and the f-car shell helix but thats only because they are proper engines.. LOL
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Originally Posted by James90RS
Rod,

Sorry if I'm being short sighted or something, but surely the oil would not get chance to have any fuel in there is the fuel was spot on?

Confused, and willing to learn
Just think off 800 to 1000hp of blow by, This is where the fuel came from.

Mark
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead
Just think off 800 to 1000hp of blow by, This is where the fuel came from.

Mark
....understood....but what about every day cossies....???
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Originally Posted by pete mcrash
....understood....but what about every day cossies....???
You should have next to none, I only use Pro S now in everything.

Mark
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead
You should have next to none, I only use Pro S now in everything.

Mark
Seconded. I have tens of YB customers whom have had their oil consumption halved and rattly followers silenced by Pro s too.
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Iva always used Semi Synthetc Texaco Havoline 10/40 without any problems. Oil changed every 5k miles, topped up around a litre a week though on my last one as it burned a bit being caned for 400 miles a week, so it was always clean anyway, lol. Plus as an added bonus its only £14 for 5 litres from my local Asda .
Why buy expensive oil to have to top up and change it that regularly, IMO its a waste.
My cossies are driven in anger 90% of the time they are being used and Im yet to have the oil cause any problems.


My 2p's worth.

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