Got the cossy lump & gearbox all lined up in the engine bay today & I have have come up against my first problem - which to be honest I kinda knew was going to cause an issue all along but tried to ignore it! LOL!

So this is my problem.... its called a subframe...



So we took the sump off to gauge how much room we had 2 play with ...this much...



So I have 2 options I can see....

1.) Basically reverse the sump - have the large bump in the sump at the front of the engine rather than at the rear - this would mean altering the pickup pipe. Is this feasible?? Who can do it for me? Would this cause me any issues in the long run? Surge? Not picking up etc etc

2.) Dry sump system - expensive but would look the part & would do the job perfect - anyone got one for sale?

Unfortunately I cannot bodge the subframe as the anti-roll bar would still foul the sump.

Heres a pic of it lined up in the engine bay..



And how close the back of the box is to the original gear lever hole..

 

Be warned - some dry sump kits need a little fettling to clear the baffle plate from the crank...

 

Even one designed for the YB mate?

 

I know Kenny's told me about a YB engine he built with a dry sump system and it turned out that when he rotated the crank by hand it struck the baffle plate...

And that came from Pace - for a YB

 

lee what car is this for mate ???

 

Will - thats not good mate...hmmm!

Ginge - My Renault 21 Turbo Quadra with the cossie lump transplant! LOL!

 

this the one that done the engine last easter !!!

 

Bin the roll bar and make some compretion struts

 

Correct mate - its had 2 engines since then! PMSL!!

 

opps cant spell, neva mind...

 

LOL...I knew what you meant mate - thats a possibility I suppose - need some pics to look at to get it right in my head.

 

cool, oh lee i was talking to some bloke at work who claims you know him, hes got a quadra, wasnting some rear brake discs and talking about your helping him with headgasket issues

i know its a random one but cant me too many people called lee in liverpool with a quadra

he recons theres only 30 of em about ?

that true ???

 

Yes mate thats true - around 30 left - I've got 3 of em in my lockup! LOL!

Whats his name?

 

fuck knows what hes name is, he was a random customer asking for details of wha the profile of the quadra rear discs are, i mentioned to pop on a website called passionford and look for Lee21Rturbo as i know you knew a little about em and he started talking about headgasket issues/over heating ect ect ect and then he wa boring me so i cut him off as we dont make them discs anyway pmsl

howthe hell have you got 3 of the fuckers,,,,,,,, AND WHY WOULD YOU WANT 3 OF EM !!!

rarer than a lotus carlton though, i never knew that !

 

Quadra rear discs are VERY VERY hard to come by - rarer than hens teeth tbh!! He'll be lucky to find some of them!!

OK I've got 1 quadra & 2 quadra shells - and 1 2wd car LOL - why...fuck knows I ask myself that question sometimes!

 

Can you not just cut a bit out of the sump? You might have to mod the pick up pipe slightly but it should be a piece of piss really.

 

he claims to know you though, said you was helping him sort the headgasket/overheating issues

 

Garage19 - well this it what I'm hoping to do - I want to move the pickup & the deep part of the sump towards the front of the engine but I want to make sure that it isnt going to cause me any issues in the future.

I would flatten that section off above the subframe.

 

Quite possible lol - hes prob off the 21TOC forum

 

Shouldn't cause a problem as longg as you maintain a supply to the pick up.

 

Excellent -thanks mate - any idea who could do this for me?

 

I could certainly weld it all up if you did the fab work. ie cut the hole in the sump to give enough clearence and cut the pick up pipe to suit.

Unfortunatly i can't measure how the pick up pupe wuold have to be as i don't have a YB ddown here to try it on.

 

Looks like another hefty chunk of metal where the downpipe usually goes on a cos. Good luck lee

 

Angle grinders, files and soft mallets are your friends Lee

 

Its driving to many wheels, Get a 2wd sump on

 

Dumped - naah thats cool mate - it already had a 3" modded cossie downpipe on it anyway!!

Will - good job eh! LOL!

Radders - its just the sump it came with tbh - I need a 2wd one 2 mod anyway!!

Garage19 - YHPM!

 

After re-evaluating my options - I think what I am going to try is to cut away the subframe upto the anti roll bar & then cut a notch out in the sump for the anti roll bar & then strengthen the subframe after the anti-roll bar. This way I can use the existing pickup pipe - also I will get the sump big winged so it holds more oil just as a precautionary measure!

 

i had a custom sump made to get around the same problem in my conversion. i made no alterations to my subframe or steering rack.the dipstick was relocated towards the front of the block.

 

Have you got any pics mate - where did you get it done, what did it cost & what did you do about the pickup pipe?