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Old 22-02-2008 | 10:14 PM
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On recommendation from a pal i thought id tell my story here

starts with me building a track car and spending time and money on a budget that turned into a money pit pmsl

Maxi F1 was supposed to be then even after 3.5K kit was orderd from Finland i got screwed over and didnt happen

then another jem comes along

from a longstanding member of a RS forum i was offered a 2.3 Turbo engine, gold dust, so last year December i offer to buy it and was told he would deliver it start of Jan, I offer deposit and he says no he trusts me pmsl as he is a long standing RS forum member and well known i have no issue trusting him

4 weekends in January i stay in and await him to drop off the engine as he was picking up an acid dipped Pickford Capri in brum 5 mins before each visit i get text saying cancelled

then i offer to go collect he says fine - my father whos had a quadruple bypass spent all this week fixing a small trailer for me to tow the engine back in from Southampton

I get my head down tonight ready to collect and then get a text saying sorry im keeping it to put in my mk2 escort and not a word of sorry ?

I go on the RS forum to air my veiws and the forum gets closed as members arent happy with what the long standing member JakeyVages has done

so all in a spend £1000's prepping for a 2.3 Turbo engine then get screwed

Moral of the story is - dont trust any one on a forum and if you do make sure you do not invest £1000's in that decision
Old 22-02-2008 | 10:21 PM
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thats life, you not been ripped off, just somebody changed their mind.
Old 22-02-2008 | 10:21 PM
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hi kev

totally out of order , if you have agreed a price and the deal has been done , then he should honner it

personally if i was to sell some stuff and someone had agreed a price as far as i am concerned then it's theirs


he has probably been offerd more money for it and sold it on thats normally the case


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Old 22-02-2008 | 10:28 PM
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Fuk sake... Gutted for ya buddy
Old 22-02-2008 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Stavros
thats life, you not been ripped off, just somebody changed their mind.

yes thats life, change your mind after some one spends 1000's and you promise them profusely that your selling them an engine

its isnt like i agreed to buy a block off of joe bloggs with 0 feedback on ebay or 3 post on a forum

user name - Jakeyvages aka arse hole



cheers Marco n Gary

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Old 22-02-2008 | 10:52 PM
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as i said Kev the guys a divvy simple really !!!
Old 22-02-2008 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Dean-o
as i said Kev the guys a divvy simple really !!!

cheers mate, i did listen to ya earlyer lol ill do what ya said

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Old 22-02-2008 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Minirotty
On recommendation from a pal i thought id tell my story here

starts with me building a track car and spending time and money on a budget that turned into a money pit pmsl

Maxi F1 was supposed to be then even after 3.5K kit was orderd from Finland i got screwed over and didnt happen

then another jem comes along

from a longstanding member of a RS forum i was offered a 2.3 Turbo engine, gold dust, so last year December i offer to buy it and was told he would deliver it start of Jan, I offer deposit and he says no he trusts me pmsl as he is a long standing RS forum member and well known i have no issue trusting him

4 weekends in January i stay in and await him to drop off the engine as he was picking up an acid dipped Pickford Capri in brum 5 mins before each visit i get text saying cancelled

then i offer to go collect he says fine - my father whos had a quadruple bypass spent all this week fixing a small trailer for me to tow the engine back in from Southampton

I get my head down tonight ready to collect and then get a text saying sorry im keeping it to put in my mk2 escort and not a word of sorry ?

I go on the RS forum to air my veiws and the forum gets closed as members arent happy with what the long standing member JakeyVages has done

so all in a spend £1000's prepping for a 2.3 Turbo engine then get screwed

Moral of the story is - dont trust any one on a forum and if you do make sure you do not invest £1000's in that decision
Yes i changed my mind, no i havent sold it for more money, no money exchanged hands so no ones been ripped off.
Im sorry Kev and i hope you finish your project
Old 22-02-2008 | 11:07 PM
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I didnt say ive been ripped off I said been screwed over theres a differance Jakey

you knew, you must of known you wernt going to sell me that engine so why lie for 3 months and then tell me minutes before i come to collect i cant have it

simple really your a cunt!
Old 22-02-2008 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Dean-o
as i said Kev the guys a divvy simple really !!!
im such a divvy am i?!? shame as i remember driving halfway up the country and giving Kev a mint tail gate for nothing..... shame he forgot about that.
my plans had changed, so would you do something that would cost you £1,000s in the near future!
Old 22-02-2008 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Minirotty
I didnt say ive been ripped off I said been screwed over theres a differance Jakey

you knew, you must of known you wernt going to sell me that engine so why lie for 3 months and then tell me minutes before i come to collect i cant have it

simple really your a cunt!
Kev i was talking it over with my mechanic who does the work for me as i popped round to make arrangements for tomorrow, and he said i was mad to sell it.....
Old 22-02-2008 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 24v280brookland
im such a divvy am i?!? shame as i remember driving halfway up the country and giving Kev a mint tail gate for nothing..... shame he forgot about that.
my plans had changed, so would you do something that would cost you £1,000s in the near future!

you were drving half way across the country for other reasons and offerd to drop off a tail gate that you were scrapping

you didnt do it for your love of me pmsl

how do plans change within minutes of you saying cya tomorrow in a text for me to collect engine

your a lier mate simple, you know also yesterday on the phone that you were talking with me about what turbos to buy!

how deceitful can you be
Old 22-02-2008 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 24v280brookland
Kev i was talking it over with my mechanic who does the work for me as i popped round to make arrangements for tomorrow, and he said i was mad to sell it.....
so you thought fuck Kev, I know hes invested grands in it but fuck him

how could you not have known before your freind identified it to you what you were doing

3 months Jakey, its not rocket science
Old 22-02-2008 | 11:18 PM
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im not a liar......
look i understand your pissed off.
but dont slag me off.
Old 22-02-2008 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 24v280brookland
im not a liar......
look i understand your pissed off.
but dont slag me off.
if you understand im pissed off how can you ask me not to slag you off?

"contradiction"

the whole of an RS forum are slagging you off fella, it was closed down this evening becasue of it!
Old 22-02-2008 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Minirotty
if you understand im pissed off how can you ask me not to slag you off?

"contradiction"

the whole of an RS forum are slagging you off fella, it was closed down this evening becasue of it!
i just think its immature......

anyway i hope you do carry on with the build.
sorry it didnt work out.
Old 22-02-2008 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Minirotty
if you understand im pissed off how can you ask me not to slag you off?

"contradiction"

the whole of an RS forum are slagging you off fella, it was closed down this evening becasue of it!
well they all have there views, and if anyone has a beef with me i will be at the shows.
Old 22-02-2008 | 11:26 PM
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Look forwerd to seing you there Mr Jakey
Old 22-02-2008 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Minirotty
Look forwerd to seing you there Mr Jakey
ok....
Old 22-02-2008 | 11:35 PM
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Would you do something that would cost you £1,000s in the near future...

Are you serious??? You've already cost kev thousands ffs
Old 23-02-2008 | 01:08 AM
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Out of order really....If you've said you'll sell it then its a bit scrotum like to change your mind after so long and this guys spent loads of cash on his project.

I think you should sell it him to redeem yourself now... go on...

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Old 23-02-2008 | 04:45 AM
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ahhhhhh so thats why the RS2000 forum is closed!!! and i get emails about it and pm's and messages on msn.

i can understand why you are pissed off kev but if i were you i wouldnt have bought any parts to prepare for the 2.3 turbo until i had the block sat at my house, you already have a fine 2L N/A engine that you could have built up to fit in the car
Old 23-02-2008 | 08:05 AM
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Kitchy... Not the point tho is it mate. Kev was under the impression that he HAD an engine, you know yourself how expensive things are, and how you spend money on other things if you save it. Had he waited untill he collected HIS engine, he probbaly wouldn't have had the money to build it due to spending it on other areas. From what I can tell, Mr Vegas is a respected member of various forums, he promised the engine to Kev and then messes him about for 3 months was it? It seems very suspect to me.
Old 23-02-2008 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Stavros
thats life, you not been ripped off, just somebody changed their mind.
So you'd be happy if you were in the same situation then? I doubt it!

Fair enough, the guy changed his mind and decided not to sell,
no money had changed hands and he's entitled to do that.
Still a dirty trick imo though, he must have been having second thoughts about selling it
or he would have delivered it in January as arranged.

Sorry to hear about this Kev, hope you get it sorted mate!

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Old 23-02-2008 | 03:44 PM
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hi kev i dont really want to comment on the situation as i dont really know what has happened and its none of my buisness to be fair all i want to say is chin up and please dont scrap the project it was going to be something different to the norm i was looking forward to seeing it finished and seeing it on track at ford fair this year also youve put a hell of a lot of hard work into it fella to a very high standard would be a shame to throw it all away
Old 23-02-2008 | 04:02 PM
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until money changes hands then there is no deal done.i can see you might be a bit pissed off but its not really the end of the world. so youve invested tousands in this project and its ruined because the seller changed his mind about selling his engine? is his engine the only one in existance in the world?
Old 23-02-2008 | 04:30 PM
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I would be pissed off aswell, if the guy said "i might sell it" then "kev" would be out of order here, but seeing how angry he is im guessing this never happened and it was more a case of "its yours mate".
If your not 1000% then dont let someone believe the item is theirs
Old 23-02-2008 | 05:42 PM
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i would not have done a thing or spent a penny till i had the engine
again i agrree with stavros
Old 23-02-2008 | 08:33 PM
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if he's been promised an engine and has built his car up to take that engine while the other guy hasn't delivered it then it's a bit of a low thing to do

and if he's said one day come and collect it tomorrow and then decides to change his mind the day of collections because his mechanic says he's a fool to let it go hen i think it's even worse
Old 24-02-2008 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by dojj
if he's been promised an engine and has built his car up to take that engine while the other guy hasn't delivered it then it's a bit of a low thing to do

and if he's said one day come and collect it tomorrow and then decides to change his mind the day of collections because his mechanic says he's a fool to let it go hen i think it's even worse
Not just the once either mate it's happened 3 times...
Old 24-02-2008 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by GTechR
Not just the once either mate it's happened 3 times...
alternativly though, those that say money has not changed hands and so he can't really be accused of fucking him over are also correct

it's not right, but it's not illegal either is it

hope it all works out eventually though as it sounds as if things have got a little heated
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