lead_foot

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ebay usa

Chip

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If the mounts sit the engine slightly to the right for clearnace of the brake setup on the left, then potentially they are going to give you problems on a RHD car.

Ive no idea at all if that is the case, just figured its worth asking the question before he spends money out on the mounts thats all!

Martin-Hadland

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Be interesting to see if my TVR 450i engine breaks through the 200hp barrier !!!

The Rover V8 is no where near as bad as Steve makes out and if its a budget job then that's the route I would take.

Chip

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What engines were in the V8 escos's that used to occasionally pop over to coventry for the car meet up holyhead road Martin?
(IIRC they were something to do with you?)
Must have been about 12 years ago as thats when I used to hang out around there.


That was rover v8's wasnt it?

They were fucking awesome cars back in the day

cossie04

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If i did go that route, would a T5 box bolt on ok?

lead_foot

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Just need a different bellhousing from real steel.

Chip

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Is that what tiny and arse did?

That thing runs 10s doesnt it?

Martin-Hadland

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Yes, they were Rover V8 powered... One still is but the other has an LS V8 fiited now, not sure which variant though.

That's why I'm saying that Stavros is wrong and that they can perform well in a Sierra/Escort on a reasonable budget, I know this because I have been in them in the Rover V8 days and slow they're not!!

Martin-Hadland

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No use the Rover box a T5 does not last on a tuned Rover V8!!

Chip

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Definately agree with that, those cars were legendary wit hthe rover v8's in them to be fair.

I tried to race one once in a 100bhp or so mini, I may as well have been walking TBH, where as a standard escos I could actually keep reasonabley well with in the first couple of gears (I know how daft that sounds, but its true, lol) they were geniunely quick cars, and were well known for being so!

Escos with an LS2, is pretty much my dream car, not sure why ive never got round to doing one instead of all the other random projects I keep getting drawn into

Stavros

A proper TVR Rover V8 is very different to one you are gonna find cheap from an SD1, P6, or Range Rover though isnt it. Very. Very. The stocko engines dont do much in the way of power even with decent head and cams fitted.

And even the top Chimera 4.5 and Griffith 500 were what, a claimed 280 and 320bhp respectivley? Not exactly mentalist is it. What do they generally cost?

What Sierra ran 10s with a n/a Rover V8 in it chip?

Chip

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I think thats what Tiny's was running mate, but it may only have been 11s, I was asking, not stating.
His was nitrous'ed too, so not strictly N/A (not sure why you mentioned the N/A thing)

Stavros

Tiny? Was that the white Saff with the cage that used to (or still does) post on here?

That had a big Chevy engine in it last time I remember, maybe it had a RV8 in it at some point, dunno.

I mentioned n/a as this guy is talking mild modifications on a budget thats why, Rover V8 can go well over 500bhp no problem with forced induction and serious mods, like any engine.
Im just talking about cheap V8 performance, which is what this guy is asking about, hense no flashy stuff or Champ Car V8s.

Chip

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Tiny, is a white saph yeah, on here, used to go to the berks meets, im 99% sure it was a tvr v8 not a chevvy.

Stavros

Proper serious TVR V8 but £££

Tvr tuscan race engine, its a dry sumped 4 liter, twr heads, w1 cam, forged pistons, knife edged crank, rods, arp studs, 4 x 48mm downdrafts and one off manifolds with 2in primarys, etc

foreigneRS

i have never been overly impressed with tvr engines either. my mate has a griffith 500 and it was no quicker than my stage 2 cossie estate in a straight line

the 500 and the chimaera on track at bedford didn't compare very well with a near standard scooby classic wrx either maybe they didn't have much track experience or something

Chip

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Thats the one, most of the work was done by "aRSe" on here, talented guy

cossie04

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God, that looks mental

Doh

my TVR 4.6 made 250.2bhp and 285lb/ft my 302 made 267bhp on 7 cylinders LOL

re the engine, mount haven't seen them pre-made? would be interested in a link? not that hard to do it you can weld... mine are half angle iron and half xr4i mount

tabetha

I did a ROVER V8 conversion to a xr4i about 4 years ago, still going strong, VERY good on the fuel 35MPG on a run at a steady 80/90mph.
They have a lot more going for them than some say, the one I fitted was a later(BMW) cross bolt of 3950CC, crossbolts not used but still have the later redesigned close caps, way stronger than normal.
As Reyland says, LT77 or R380 gearbox is best for these, parts available, or easy to make, tokk me and me old man(who's car it was) around 1 1/2hours to get gearbox and engine bolted into place.
The 4i curently runs carbs(twin SU's) but is going injected with Emerald ecu later this year.
It runs a much higher diff, as it is needed, a 3.14:1 from a sierra diesel.
Only problem area was offside exhaust manifold, which had to be modded to clear steering arm, suitable sump made, ARB dropped about 1 1/2" with made up blocks, longer bolts.
can't remember exact figures but was 240lbft at around 1500rpm, 350lbft at 2000rpm, about 270/280bhp max, but just 3950cc with Su's and a 285 cam with SLIGHTLY modded heads.
Wiringis easy as is plumbing, and spares cheap and easy.
tabetha

pete mcrash

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there's a lass in the durham rsoc who's got one (her hubby/partner did it but sadly died) anyway she still has and uses the car.....try p.m ing Escyscott to find out a bit more

bigal1978

i agree with the fuel economy bit 100%

cossie04

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Thanks for info, been looking into it a bit more, looking at the Rover engine. I found a link to someone who has done the conversion and has put a breif write up of how he did it.

http://www.nitrous.info/v8-ford-sierra.htm

Anyone know the main differences on the SD1 and the P6 engine?

Glenn_

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She is called mad dawny she is a canny lass. Her car is mint and sounds lovely. She goes to the durham rsoc meets and she goes the the tyneandwear rsoc the club im in. Ive also seen a black sierra xr 4i at some ford shows with a V8 in too.

cossie04

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Done

I`ve seen that too, sounds like Dohs

focusv8

Try here, lot of rover engine info:

http://www.v-8.org.uk/forum/index.php

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Doh

yeah probably mine, do most of the big shows...



will have to get some newer pics, its changed a bit since that was taken

BlueSmoke

There's a half finished Sierra V8 project on ebay at the minute, think it was using a Mustang engine.

cossie04

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Just registered

I see that, waiting for some better pictures off him

tabetha

The P6 uses a ROPE seal as the rear crank seal but they leak like buggery, lots of ninor improvements done on SD1 over P6.
tabetha

RichardPON

Rover V8s are cheap as chips secondhand.

Got two 3.9s and a 3.5 sat here, one of which was intended for a Triumph conversion, but it's been scrapped. Go for peanuts really.......

Jamz

I bought a 3.5 with all ancilleries plus MAF and ECU for £70. It sat in my garage for months doing nothing so I gave it away for free.

paul302289

i have an xr8 that runs a 5.0 v8 and a t5 box. only 201 hp at the wheels and 196 ft lbs of torque, but sounds great and pulls like a train. i am in the process of fabricating some parts to allow easy fitment of a v8 into a sierra if you are interested.check out my add in non rs ford parts, chers, Paul

Mike1

V8 even makes an E36 BMW more exciting!

brad

Buy stavros's mustang lump dude , i was going to but unforseen curcumstances meant i had to sell my car .
i priced up getting the engine off him , re building it and getting all the parts (of the shelf) to fit it and it came to less than £1500 !! ste can give you all the links for the best places to get the parts from , i think real steel had most of the bits needed.
Even with a semi standard motor you will be running proper power

xr4x4rs

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as in hollyhead road coventry?

TurboShed

Does anyone have anything to say about the BMW V8 as an option?

tabetha

The rover V8 can be perked up well, surely a V8 is about Torque not bhp anyway.
I did a V8 xr4i some years back, and to be honest up to 50 it leaves my 380bhp cossie, but the point is it does it with so little effort.
With the Rover v8 use either the LT77 or R380 manual box, mounts are piss easy to fabricate, use landrover cotton reel engine mounts, decent cam like piper 270, fuel injection if you can(for price) but if not do well on good old su's.
Due to where stavros lives it sounds like the windsor is plentiful there, and cheaply too.
If I was going yank V8 though I would go chevy, just cos I like them!!
Primary pipe from head WILL clash with the steering rod, the rv8 is also a LONG engine, we had about 1/2" to 3/4" between it and the rad, but we used the rv8 rad first, think it's better with std ford rad.
A 4L rv8 with above cam(on SU's) will do 185-190bhp, but around 260/280 lbft before 2000rpm, I wouldn't worry about the much hyped TVR version, as crossbolting isn't needed at this power level anyway.
The xr4i can easily get 35mpg on a run, the 5L chimera(sp) that I saw made 236bhp but 303lbft.
tabetha