Doing donuts....
10-01-2008, 12:28 PM
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Doing donuts....
Proper controlled ones round an object, not just a car park chav special of firing it round randomly wherever it ends I mean.
Why is it so much harder to do it going anticlockwise than going clockwise!
Ive been told its because our brains are accustomed to righthand circles from roundabouts, so was wondering if anyone from a LHD country has found the opposite?
Why is it so much harder to do it going anticlockwise than going clockwise!
Ive been told its because our brains are accustomed to righthand circles from roundabouts, so was wondering if anyone from a LHD country has found the opposite?
10-01-2008, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Cowboi
i do donuts all the time, found the ring ones easier.
jam ones just remind me of that time of the month
jam ones just remind me of that time of the month
10-01-2008, 12:32 PM
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Never noticed the direction of rotation causing difficulty before but now it has been brought to my attention I realise that anti-clockwise requires a bit more effort. Well noticed Chip, Ill be interested to see what comes from this.
10-01-2008, 12:34 PM
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I don't think it's got anything to do with roundabouts imho. It's just a natural "feeling", personally i find both ways about the same with anticlockwise being slightly more natural.
You find the same thing with snowboarding, skateboarding, bmx, mountain bikes etc. Somethings just feel natural like standing left or right foot forward on a snowboard. Some people are ambidextrous.
You find the same thing with snowboarding, skateboarding, bmx, mountain bikes etc. Somethings just feel natural like standing left or right foot forward on a snowboard. Some people are ambidextrous.
10-01-2008, 12:47 PM
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cos in a rhd car you can clearly see the object your going round when going clockwise
counterclockwise its harder to see where the front end of the car is.
i think i smashed the rear bumper off down your place when drifting to the left, so thats my excuse
counterclockwise its harder to see where the front end of the car is.
i think i smashed the rear bumper off down your place when drifting to the left, so thats my excuse
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10-01-2008, 01:09 PM
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I board right foot forward and spin on a board/bike anticlockwise, same way i find slightly easier to donut. I do only have limited rwd and donut experience though but definitely found anticlockwise slightly more natural the few times i've had a go at trying to drift in my mates car.
10-01-2008, 01:24 PM
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In a car I would say it is because you as sat at the centre of the turing cirlce so will feel more natural and your brain will find it easier to co-ordinate the car in a circle.
Not sure why on a skateboard
Not sure why on a skateboard
10-01-2008, 01:25 PM
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I taught my mum how to donut the other day in the Skyline. She did one as well in a slightly damp empty station carpark last saturday!
as well as driving my 996 at 111mph on way home from Donno with me sound asleep in Passenger seat on the 27th dec!
She is 60! we call her Turbo Nan now
I'm gonna get her donuts on Film!
as well as driving my 996 at 111mph on way home from Donno with me sound asleep in Passenger seat on the 27th dec!
She is 60! we call her Turbo Nan now
I'm gonna get her donuts on Film!
10-01-2008, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by matts1
In a car I would say it is because you as sat at the centre of the turing cirlce so will feel more natural and your brain will find it easier to co-ordinate the car in a circle.
Not sure why on a skateboard
Not sure why on a skateboard
LOL @ Porkie, fair play to her, but thats not the sort of donut I mean, lol
10-01-2008, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by matts1
do you think it could be connected to the water in the toilet thing??
turning the opp way north of the equator
turning the opp way north of the equator
10-01-2008, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy_R
being goofy or regular spinning backsided or front sideed has nothing to do with being left or right handed. Just down to personal preferance & practice! I suspect alot like drifting!
Being goofy or regular is as predefind in your brain as being left handed or right handed is, I wasnt saying all left handed people are regular or vice versa though.
Its set out when you are born, and nothing to do with practice.
If you are left handed and try and force yourself to do things right handed, you will do them FAR less well.
10-01-2008, 01:37 PM
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I skate & Snowboard Goofy, i.e. right foot forward !
Donuttin, i've always felt more natural anti-clockwise, put it down to me being able to look out the window properly
Well done to Porkie ! ! !
I'd love to show me Mum how to but she can't even drive & screams the second the car starts movin anyways ! ! !
But don't post the vids up, your'd get called a chavvy c**t blah blah blah
Suprised Chip hasn't been jus for askin the question !
jb
Donuttin, i've always felt more natural anti-clockwise, put it down to me being able to look out the window properly
Well done to Porkie ! ! !
I'd love to show me Mum how to but she can't even drive & screams the second the car starts movin anyways ! ! ! But don't post the vids up, your'd get called a chavvy c**t blah blah blah
Suprised Chip hasn't been jus for askin the question !
jb
10-01-2008, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Im on about donuts as a technical exercise like you would do on a DWYB day, not chavvy carpark ones like porkies mum and you do
(said like Cathrine Tate bird) lol lol lol I've seen the you tube vid of you in your Nova in a carpark too ya know !
Unless that was an early technical exercise to pratice the theroy of the controlled spin ? ? ?
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10-01-2008, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by Andy_R
being goofy or regular spinning backsided or front sideed has nothing to do with being left or right handed. Just down to personal preferance & practice! I suspect alot like drifting!
Being goofy or regular is as predefind in your brain as being left handed or right handed is, I wasnt saying all left handed people are regular or vice versa though.
Its set out when you are born, and nothing to do with practice.
If you are left handed and try and force yourself to do things right handed, you will do them FAR less well.
I also know riders who dont follow either rule, they can alternate between right or left foot forward and spin either direction totally naturally. To some extent most people follow the normal rules but its definitely not set in stone.
10-01-2008, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Im on about donuts as a technical exercise like you would do on a DWYB day, not chavvy carpark ones like porkies mum and you do
(said like Cathrine Tate bird) lol lol lol I've seen the you tube vid of you in your Nova in a carpark too ya know !
jb
10-01-2008, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by Andy_R
being goofy or regular spinning backsided or front sideed has nothing to do with being left or right handed. Just down to personal preferance & practice! I suspect alot like drifting!
Being goofy or regular is as predefind in your brain as being left handed or right handed is, I wasnt saying all left handed people are regular or vice versa though.
Its set out when you are born, and nothing to do with practice.
If you are left handed and try and force yourself to do things right handed, you will do them FAR less well.
I also know riders who dont follow either rule, they can alternate between right or left foot forward and spin either direction totally naturally. To some extent most people follow the normal rules but its definitely not set in stone.
10-01-2008, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by 89xr2
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by Andy_R
being goofy or regular spinning backsided or front sideed has nothing to do with being left or right handed. Just down to personal preferance & practice! I suspect alot like drifting!
Being goofy or regular is as predefind in your brain as being left handed or right handed is, I wasnt saying all left handed people are regular or vice versa though.
Its set out when you are born, and nothing to do with practice.
If you are left handed and try and force yourself to do things right handed, you will do them FAR less well.
I also know riders who dont follow either rule, they can alternate between right or left foot forward and spin either direction totally naturally. To some extent most people follow the normal rules but its definitely not set in stone.
I'll bring the camera or get Cabrio Boy to do it ! ! !
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10-01-2008, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by 89xr2
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by Andy_R
being goofy or regular spinning backsided or front sideed has nothing to do with being left or right handed. Just down to personal preferance & practice! I suspect alot like drifting!
Being goofy or regular is as predefind in your brain as being left handed or right handed is, I wasnt saying all left handed people are regular or vice versa though.
Its set out when you are born, and nothing to do with practice.
If you are left handed and try and force yourself to do things right handed, you will do them FAR less well.
I also know riders who dont follow either rule, they can alternate between right or left foot forward and spin either direction totally naturally. To some extent most people follow the normal rules but its definitely not set in stone.
10-01-2008, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Torque reaction from the engine aiding one way, but hindering the other?
The clockwise ones I could do perfectly, I could hold it with the cone a foot from the car and do 30 revolutions if I wanted, or I could swing out wide and do it at 10 foot away, or I could bring it in and out as I wished to whatever radius I wished, then the anticlockwise ones, I just couldnt do properly at all.
10-01-2008, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Torque reaction from the engine aiding one way, but hindering the other?
10-01-2008, 02:02 PM
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I don't think you've mentioned it, or I might have missed it but Chip, when you used to skate did you Spin Anticlockwise naturally? Because that was always my reasoning for me finding it easier in a car to spin that way as well, but if thats not the case with you thats my theory out of the window as well.
10-01-2008, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy_R
The Japanese are better than us folks here in the UK at drifting because.....
They are closer to the Equator than us
They are closer to the Equator than us
10-01-2008, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 89xr2
I don't think you've mentioned it, or I might have missed it but Chip, when you used to skate did you Spin Anticlockwise naturally? Because that was always my reasoning for me finding it easier in a car to spin that way as well, but if thats not the case with you thats my theory out of the window as well.
When I used to slide on the skateboard (ie 4 wheel slide) I did that facing forward, so again my "initiation" to the slide (to use a drift term) was the same as it would be for a clockwise donut.
10-01-2008, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 89xr2
Agreed, say with bmx (as it's what i'm most familiar with) It is "normal" for people to ride right foot forward and spin anti clockwise or ride left foot forward and spin clockwise, however i know people who break these rules and ride left foot forward spin anticlockwise or vice versa. I've also found that for the latter these people also find it alot easier to spin the other way to their natural direction. Whereas I for example find it extremely difficult to spin in my opposite direction and as a result look like a complete spacker trying I also know riders who dont follow either rule, they can alternate between right or left foot forward and spin either direction totally naturally.
To some extent most people follow the normal rules but its definitely not set in stone.
I also know riders who dont follow either rule, they can alternate between right or left foot forward and spin either direction totally naturally. To some extent most people follow the normal rules but its definitely not set in stone.
also, on sunday i went to the forest of dean mountain biking, there i fell off to the left, and the week before that i fell off to the right, so i guess im ambidextrous at crashing
10-01-2008, 02:16 PM
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In that case my theory is still intact! although Spinning anticlockwise is usually the more "normal" of the two when riding goofy. So it could also explain why you find the same thing with drifting yet i do the exact opposite to you.