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Old 12-10-2004 | 09:22 PM
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Default 1600 CVH's with steel rods

what power you running and whats your specs

just being nosey

also whats the theoretical breaking point of steel rods and what would be the first thing to go if these didnt

if that makes any sense

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Old 12-10-2004 | 09:24 PM
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whats the most boost you can run with steel rods and decent pistons ?
Old 13-10-2004 | 12:24 AM
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28 psi on T34 for mine with steel rods.

Although about 20 for everyday driving
Old 13-10-2004 | 12:36 AM
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fook 28psi .

whats the spec on your motor shings
Old 13-10-2004 | 12:42 AM
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Old 13-10-2004 | 05:28 AM
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28psi (2bar?) is not uncommon even with standard RST internals.
Old 13-10-2004 | 07:26 AM
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28psi (2bar?) is not uncommon even with standard RST internals.
rather you than me mate
Old 13-10-2004 | 07:42 AM
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Just sold a steel bottom end than made 250 brake @ 18 psi!
Old 13-10-2004 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by JesseT
28psi (2bar?) is not uncommon even with standard RST internals.

are you sure?

especially on a t34?
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My RST made 270bhp on standard rods/pistons and about 28psi of boost. I have run as far as 30psi, but my engine was very low comp.

I now run around 25psi with my steel rods, not sure how much power yet, but I would think around 300bhp.

As for breaking point of Steel Rods, I would say that you are more likely to have an engine failure due to a poor machining tolerance or a badly assembled engine LONG LONG LONG before you break a Steel Rod. IMO the Pistons will always be a weak point, whatever they are. Even if they are fancy forged jobbies, doesn't mean that our good friend 'Uncle Det' wont blow a big hole in them if he decides to pop his head up. The crank will also become a weakness, but only if you plan to run silly revs (8k plus?)
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C&B did you get my pm a couple of days ago ??
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Ummm, I better check again!! I have been off work this week, so haven't been around much!! I'll go look now.....
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
As for breaking point of Steel Rods, I would say that you are more likely to have an engine failure due to a poor machining tolerance or a badly assembled engine LONG LONG LONG before you break a Steel Rod. IMO the Pistons will always be a weak point, whatever they are. Even if they are fancy forged jobbies, doesn't mean that our good friend 'Uncle Det' wont blow a big hole in them if he decides to pop his head up. The crank will also become a weakness, but only if you plan to run silly revs (8k plus?)



Oh P.S - Mine is the same spec as Mr C's. Only I consider 25psi a tad "girlie"
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Originally Posted by Tony Turbo
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As for breaking point of Steel Rods, I would say that you are more likely to have an engine failure due to a poor machining tolerance or a badly assembled engine LONG LONG LONG before you break a Steel Rod. IMO the Pistons will always be a weak point, whatever they are. Even if they are fancy forged jobbies, doesn't mean that our good friend 'Uncle Det' wont blow a big hole in them if he decides to pop his head up. The crank will also become a weakness, but only if you plan to run silly revs (8k plus?)



Oh P.S - Mine is the same spec as Mr C's. Only I consider 25psi a tad "girlie"
FPMSL. We will see how girly on Sunday. How about we race for log books??
Old 13-10-2004 | 12:58 PM
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FPMSL. We will see how girly on Sunday. How about we race for log books??
So wot's happening sunday? C, did you find another car to go against? or is it Tony and I am just way behind on things?
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Dunno if im right or wrong but surly an engine that has got steel rods in would have been machined properly so would have no poor machining tolerence or been put together badly!!!
And can uncle det just appear out of nowhere me bit confused !!!!!
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
FPMSL. We will see how girly on Sunday. How about we race for log books??
Na it's ok, I haven't got room for any more cars right now
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Machining can be bad regardless of the rods. There are lots of bits to be machined in an engine and it is far more likely that there will be an error there before a rod breaks.

Anyone can attempt to build an engine either with or without steel rods, so there could easily be a mistake made.

Det can be caused by many things. Fuel Pump failure, clogged Fuel Filter, fuel starvation caused by cornering too hard, badly set up, too much boost, compression too high etc etc etc.
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Originally Posted by Tony Turbo
Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
FPMSL. We will see how girly on Sunday. How about we race for log books??
Na it's ok, I haven't got room for any more cars right now
GREAT COMEBACK
Old 13-10-2004 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by keithG666
Originally Posted by Tony Turbo
Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
FPMSL. We will see how girly on Sunday. How about we race for log books??
Na it's ok, I haven't got room for any more cars right now
GREAT COMEBACK
AFPMSL.....
Old 13-10-2004 | 01:18 PM
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Yeah ok so i realise machining can be bad regardless of rods etc but surely if you were building or paying for building of an engine to this speck you would make sure there aint no bad bits at all cos as you say will cause engine failure !!!!!

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