A bit of competion for the cossie
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A friend of mine has had an engine built at Norris and thinks it going to pass the old saf....
what you reckon?
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6k to 8k looks
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what you reckon?
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6k to 8k looks
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and thats bolted to a dyno and not in the car either so im sure it will deffo be alot closer
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thats the one with lots of carbon isnt it
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thats the one with lots of carbon isnt it
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Plus transmission losses !
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So 640 on dyno, so around the 600 mark in the car minus around 100hp for the wheel figure = 500hp @ the wheels
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Gonna be really REALLY close !
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A friend round our way has an EVO VIII wit a GT30 ND engine running jus over 500hp. Goes really well ! Not quite Cossie quick, but still quick !
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Let us know how you get on !
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Originally Posted by jb fletch
Plus transmission losses !
So 640 on dyno, so around the 600 mark in the car minus around 100hp for the wheel figure = 500hp @ the wheels![Wink](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
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So 640 on dyno, so around the 600 mark in the car minus around 100hp for the wheel figure = 500hp @ the wheels
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In the real world something tells me PAS and Alt will take up less than 10bhp, and considering even the biggest portable gas/diesel space heaters give out less than 50000watts of heat per HOUR each, overall losses are far far less.
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Originally Posted by Stavros
Originally Posted by jb fletch
Plus transmission losses !
So 640 on dyno, so around the 600 mark in the car minus around 100hp for the wheel figure = 500hp @ the wheels![Wink](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
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So 640 on dyno, so around the 600 mark in the car minus around 100hp for the wheel figure = 500hp @ the wheels
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In the real world something tells me PAS and Alt will take up less than 10bhp, and considering even the biggest portable gas/diesel space heaters give out less than 50000watts of heat per HOUR each, overall losses are far far less.
I assume you have no idea what a watt is then?
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As for how the cars will go I think it will be quite close on our private test track which happens to suit a cossie quite well.
Mike Im sure it has the RS diffs and carbon prop etc..
Supposedly it was dyno' with exhust in place so it might not loose that much when dropped into the car..
Mike Im sure it has the RS diffs and carbon prop etc..
Supposedly it was dyno' with exhust in place so it might not loose that much when dropped into the car..
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Originally Posted by jb fletch
A friend round our way has an EVO VIII wit a GT30 ND engine running jus over 500hp. Goes really well ! Not quite Cossie quick, but still quick !
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Let us know how you get on !
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But what would on happen on the twisties to the cossie JB??.......
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Originally Posted by staffi
Originally Posted by jb fletch
A friend round our way has an EVO VIII wit a GT30 ND engine running jus over 500hp. Goes really well ! Not quite Cossie quick, but still quick !
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Let us know how you get on !
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But what would on happen on the twisties to the cossie JB??.......
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by Stavros
Originally Posted by jb fletch
Plus transmission losses !
So 640 on dyno, so around the 600 mark in the car minus around 100hp for the wheel figure = 500hp @ the wheels![Wink](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
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So 640 on dyno, so around the 600 mark in the car minus around 100hp for the wheel figure = 500hp @ the wheels
![Wink](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
In the real world something tells me PAS and Alt will take up less than 10bhp, and considering even the biggest portable gas/diesel space heaters give out less than 50000watts of heat per HOUR each, overall losses are far far less.
I assume you have no idea what a watt is then?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watt-hour
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Originally Posted by Stavros
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by Stavros
Originally Posted by jb fletch
Plus transmission losses !
So 640 on dyno, so around the 600 mark in the car minus around 100hp for the wheel figure = 500hp @ the wheels![Wink](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
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So 640 on dyno, so around the 600 mark in the car minus around 100hp for the wheel figure = 500hp @ the wheels
![Wink](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
In the real world something tells me PAS and Alt will take up less than 10bhp, and considering even the biggest portable gas/diesel space heaters give out less than 50000watts of heat per HOUR each, overall losses are far far less.
I assume you have no idea what a watt is then?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watt-hour
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I think you need to read it again then
What you said is the equivalent of saying a car moves at
50MPH per HOUR
And then using the fact a taxi charges based on speed and time to explain where you got the unit from
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Originally Posted by Stavros
Originally Posted by jb fletch
Plus transmission losses !
So 640 on dyno, so around the 600 mark in the car minus around 100hp for the wheel figure = 500hp @ the wheels![Wink](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
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So 640 on dyno, so around the 600 mark in the car minus around 100hp for the wheel figure = 500hp @ the wheels
![Wink](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
In the real world something tells me PAS and Alt will take up less than 10bhp, and considering even the biggest portable gas/diesel space heaters give out less than 50000watts of heat per HOUR each, overall losses are far far less.
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and the transmission losses are not just what is lost through heat in the gearbox and diffs like you are simplifying it to. there is also noise from those, and noise and heat generated at the tyre/road interface
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still unlikely to be 100hp though
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Chip ...those pics are old, everything has been upgraded as a pack age ND and it should be back in the car by now ![Big Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
Will be interesting to see what this runs ATW at AVA as the most po it booked in for a powerful evo they have seen ran 430 ATW and was supposed to be over 600 horsepower.
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Will be interesting to see what this runs ATW at AVA as the most po it booked in for a powerful evo they have seen ran 430 ATW and was supposed to be over 600 horsepower.
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Nice car
Take it all your mates have top cars Euan, from what i have seen they all look to be well tuned. Any news on the proper challange for both of use ?
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Its a normal looking STI until you open the bonnet
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