R+D say you should use the clutch at all times.

FFD say "what fooking clutch".

 

i didnt know that tim .....thats confidence in their product

 

yeah just slightly.

you should ask chris how much he spent fixing his FFD anything is breakable .

i don't doubt the FFD is stonger but they do still break

my wee RnD has been pretty reliable the last couple of years and gets me round k hill in 51's so cluching can't take up too much time

 

you not recon you could gain over a second without clutching?

i dare you to try it

 

don,t think i need to worry about gaining a second for a while

 

 

and FFD is around 18kgs heavier apart from that it is the best box unless you go to X-trac .

i had two ffds and sold them cause i like the rnd and it gets me by

 

no i dont suppose you do

but i still think you should try it

 

Would have to agree with Andrew, Rnd is a good box for circuit use. Andrew you might need to gain that second for next year

 

i'll hold you to that!!

 

correct the dog gears are ready now for the MT75





mt75 sequentail dog is on the cards also hopefully ill be having a mt75 rwd version of the box once it's ready along with a brand spanking new 9" x trac plated diff oh lord


marco

 

spoke to bara about this i was thinkin of one for next year but only on standard ratios.

great for road/track days but not for me

 

hi andy


as you say the ffd is a brilliant box and can withstand alot of shite , but they do let go from time to time , i have seen broken ones


theres is one great thing for them is to have them converted to sequentail dog shift they normaly last alot longer but it very costly to have the converstion done

marco

 

Or for 7k less buy an OSG

 

hi andy

to be honest thats all the Mullit box was designed for to be a trackday/fast road box with road ish type gearing , it was never designed to be a rally box/race box

because he would have to make loads of different gear sets for the race rally guys and wasn't worth the hastle to have loads of different gear sets sitting on the shelf

i know with the FFD he has got bloody loads of different gears for them you can pick and mix with the amount of them he has got


marco

 

thats very true

and thank you for my 10" x 18's comps :bow:

 

i'm sure if he did it would open up a whole new market for him i know its limited to what you can fit inside an mt75 casing and RnD has put a lot of work into it, but their customer service is non exsitant.

i've always found bara very helpfull and would do anything to help and think its shit when he does his best and gets about in the end.

 

Marco - WTF - road ratios

a sequenital dog box with road ratios - i dont think the road boys will be forking out for that

i thought id found my new gearbox then i'd need to run 5.1:1 to make the last three gears of any use, then i'd only have a 'three speed box'

 

think he was meaning the ffd sequ.

 

andy

he is very helpfull

if you get any problems with your RnD and cant get in contact with roger for what ever reasons

atleast bara can rebuild them he has done a few of them and you wont have to wait that long either to get it back

marco

 

im sure marco said MT sequential ?

 

i build my own box and for others up here and fit a few of RnD's cages
and still find the comunication with them hard

 

hi mark

he is going to do a sequentail dog kit to fit in the MT75 casing

firstly, he will be same gearing as the normal muillt syncro/dog box

secondly will be making various gear sets for all applications

this will happen if he can get the sequentail kit to fit inside the MT75

it wont be that expensive if he can get kit in the casing

thats what he has told me

marco

 

thats it sorted then - if andrew finishes my shell, you can send him a sequential to test then we can fit one to my car (with pukka ratios not that road car crap !! )

 

hi mark

ill ask him and see what he says

 

with my R+D in my road / trackday fiecos.

i use clutch all the time going up thro the gears unless on full bore changes, and Always on down shift.

 

What sort of money are the sequentail dog kits going to be Marco?

 

under 5k i would say it will be there cheapest sequentail mt75 out there

and you wont break you hand changing gear either like some sequentail mt75's that are out there

 

Any idea when the sequential box will be ready Marco , since im planning on sending my spare box down to Martin when he reopens after new year.

 

Under 5K is that a base model? as you know i have uprated mainshaft and 1st 4th ect and i give that for mine so is that 5K for the all singing dancing sequentail MT75?

Let me put it this way how much do you think it would be if i was to give BARA a MT75 Box and have them build the top spec sequentail gearkit in the box with a 3.9 step down for the front diff?

 

Hi Neil


i dont know when it will be ready ......... he is looking into it might not be ready untill late next yr


like i said before if he can get the sequentail kit in the mt75 it will happen


cheers marco

 

Hi ben

i would say yes for that would be for the base model


you would be looking 350+vat for the step off about 5.5k +vat

you would still have to go through Martin tho as you is his coustomer


if it happens

cheers marco

 

What is there to be uprated on the base model to be a top spec whats the diffrences as i would assume you cant use standard first in a sequentail box like you do in the mullit box IF it works what are you looking at for the all singing dancing including VAT built up in a box supplied via a customer?

Sorry for all the Q's

 

Hi ben

i suppose it will have to have all new gear kit includinglayshaft/ mainshaft

as for price because your exhisting customer and he might take your kit in part ex for the sequentail kit and then the differance

he could still sell your kit as used kit might work otu good for somebody else

marco

 

keep us posted on how things go, when should you know if its going to fit or not?

 

no probs

 

Any news on the sequential box Marco?

MARCO

 

Ahh, this has been upped. time for another question


When selecting gear with a dog box, not using the clutch, do you lift off throttle

 

you back off enough to let the rev's drop to correct rpm for the next gear.

 

so you dont use the clutch then dan?