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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 06:04 AM
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Default e36 M3 Vs St220 derv......

.... what would take off quicker from 100mph to say 120mph? same gears (5th) oh and the st220 would be std as would the m3.
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 06:51 AM
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an st220 isnt a derv

you mean the st tdci??

the M3 would win easy i expect, though the diesel would have some grunt
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 06:54 AM
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I'd say M3, although 45-60 in 3rd the ST TDCI might win
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 07:25 AM
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pmsl, the m3 would annihilate it
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 07:37 AM
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You would be very surprised! A friend of mine embarrassingly beat me off the lights in his st tdci when i had my M3 Evo!!! Caught up but from pullaway he was in front (just)!!
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 08:04 AM
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You would be very surprised! A friend of mine embarrassingly beat me off the lights in his st tdci when i had my M3 Evo!!! Caught up but from pullaway he was in front (just)!!
you obviously arent very good at launching then TBH

fwd car of similar sort of size and weight managing to beat you off the line isnt a good sign, irrelevant of what torque it has!
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 08:49 AM
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Lol, fwd turbo with less power to weight beat a rwd na with more power to weight...
5.5 seconds to 60 for the M3 if peddled right.
In a straight line you can get all the power down with the lsd, how would the derv do this?

In the scenario from 100mph, the M3 would be at 110 by the time the derv hit boost I'd say - mine takes off in 5th very nicely, think evo's 5th is same if not lower geared.

More bmw threads on here than on E36coupe
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 09:55 AM
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I'm only saying how it was!! (I was 4 up though!)! Fookin hated that M3 - Mondy all day long!
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 10:08 AM
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As much as it breaks my heart id say the M3 would win but it would be close!

The fastest ive taken mine was 125mph, it felt surprisingly quiet and safe with plenty more pull left in it, that was in my old Saloon though.
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My ST TDCi was remapped and i held it flat out at 147 on the GPS

Still doing 50mpg

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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 11:27 AM
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50mpg at 147?
Must do millions of miles to a tank driven gently then.
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Originally Posted by TIFF
My ST TDCi was remapped and i held it flat out at 147 on the GPS

Still doing 50mpg

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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by TIFF
My ST TDCi was remapped and i held it flat out at 147 on the GPS

Still doing 50mpg

SUPERB CAR
Either you wrote that reply in a misleading way OR one or more of your gauges are broken
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Originally Posted by littlebrownbike
and heres me thinking 30mpg at 130 odd was good going
It is good going, his car does NOT do 147@50mpg, not unless its down a REALLY steep hill (read as "off a cliff")
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by littlebrownbike
and heres me thinking 30mpg at 130 odd was good going
It is good going, his car does NOT do 147@50mpg, not unless its down a REALLY steep hill (read as "off a cliff")
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Must be a lot of cars about that'll do 147 mph and 50 mpg, so didn't read it as that as it's not that special
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Originally Posted by C4llyT
Must be a lot of cars about that'll do 147 mph and 50 mpg, so didn't read it as that as it's not that special
yeah, but not at the same time
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Can't think of one that would, like to be shown one though
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by littlebrownbike
and heres me thinking 30mpg at 130 odd was good going
It is good going, his car does NOT do 147@50mpg, not unless its down a REALLY steep hill (read as "off a cliff")
Is terminal velocity not somewhere around 120mph?

Seriously though, My Seat Ibiza TDi will do 147 and 50mpg, but definitely not at the same time. The lowest trip mpg I've ever had was 39mpg and that was London to Ayr. 440miles at an average speed of 83mph. You can get instant mpg down to around 27mpg if you try really hard
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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Why does my old ST TDCi not do what i said it did then

Oh well........i know it did as i was driving it and watching the readout on the GPS and the OBC

I am sure some people just try to belittle for for there own amusment
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So at 56mph it must do well over 100mpg, right?
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by littlebrownbike
and heres me thinking 30mpg at 130 odd was good going
It is good going, his car does NOT do 147@50mpg, not unless its down a REALLY steep hill (read as "off a cliff")
Oh no..........SORRY EVERYONE, CHIP SAYS IT DIDNT SO IT CANT OF DONE

My mistake......
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by C4llyT
So at 56mph it must do well over 100mpg, right?
Ask Chip....he knows everything
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http://www.carsurvey.org/review_87154.html

That one does 45-48 mpg when cruising.
I know it's a rep-mobile, but even they don't cruise at 147 mph, do they?
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by C4llyT
http://www.carsurvey.org/review_87154.html

That one does 45-48 mpg when cruising.
I know it's a rep-mobile, but even they don't cruise at 147 mph, do they?
who said anything about crusing at 147mph???????

PMSL @ you hunting through the world wide web looking for stats on a car the same as my old one.......

Get over it, if you dont beleive me then forget about it
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 01:32 PM
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why did you get rid of the ST TDCi Tiff ?
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 01:34 PM
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You said yours did 50mpg at 147mph.
In link another owner says his does 45-48mpg when cruising.
I asked if cruising speed was 147mph.
As usually cruising speed is 70-80mph, and this speed will usually achieve better mpg than being flat out at 147mph.
Maybe these cars return their best mpg when absolutely flat out battling against wind resistence, I've not driven one
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Originally Posted by FasterFords
why did you get rid of the ST TDCi Tiff ?
someone got rid of it for me....gutted as it was a superb car





Replaced it with this BMW E46 330d M-Sport

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Originally Posted by C4llyT
You said yours did 50mpg at 147mph.
In link another owner says his does 45-48mpg when cruising.
I asked if cruising speed was 147mph.
As usually cruising speed is 70-80mph, and this speed will usually achieve better mpg than being flat out at 147mph.
Maybe these cars return their best mpg when absolutely flat out battling against wind resistence, I've not driven one

Does this place really need 2 Chips??? erm no!!

Quite clearly he meant that his car was capable of nearly 150mph whilst still managing to achieve 50mpg on normal running.

That IS impressive in my book!

i'm guessing you've had plenty of Chips semen inside you, and his ways have infected you
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Thats a shame Tiff
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Originally Posted by bud-weis
Originally Posted by C4llyT
You said yours did 50mpg at 147mph.
In link another owner says his does 45-48mpg when cruising.
I asked if cruising speed was 147mph.
As usually cruising speed is 70-80mph, and this speed will usually achieve better mpg than being flat out at 147mph.
Maybe these cars return their best mpg when absolutely flat out battling against wind resistence, I've not driven one

Does this place really need 2 Chips??? erm no!!

Quite clearly he meant that his car was capable of nearly 150mph whilst still managing to achieve 50mpg on normal running.

That IS impressive in my book!

i'm guessing you've had plenty of Chips semen inside you, and his ways have infected you
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Originally Posted by TIFF
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by littlebrownbike
and heres me thinking 30mpg at 130 odd was good going
It is good going, his car does NOT do 147@50mpg, not unless its down a REALLY steep hill (read as "off a cliff")
Oh no..........SORRY EVERYONE, CHIP SAYS IT DIDNT SO IT CANT OF DONE

My mistake......
Sorry, sarcasm of this reply threw me.....

My old 144K mile calibra turbo will knock on 50mpg and do 160mph, so fail to see the big deal, hence why I thought you were claiming 50mpg at 147mph, as otherwise what you're claiming is underwhelming.

Can be laid to rest now it's been established it was a poorly worded and underwhelming statement
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just when you thought there were enough knobs in the world
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 01:54 PM
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Heh, at least you've got good mods keeping threads on topic
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Originally Posted by FasterFords
just when you thought there were enough knobs in the world
Indeed.........1 new one pops up and joins an established one
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Originally Posted by C4llyT
Heh, at least you've got good mods keeping threads on topic
I can tell by that comment that you havent even read anything that has been going on for the last week or so
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Originally Posted by C4llyT
Originally Posted by TIFF
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by littlebrownbike
and heres me thinking 30mpg at 130 odd was good going
It is good going, his car does NOT do 147@50mpg, not unless its down a REALLY steep hill (read as "off a cliff")
Oh no..........SORRY EVERYONE, CHIP SAYS IT DIDNT SO IT CANT OF DONE

My mistake......
Sorry, sarcasm of this reply threw me.....

My old 144K mile calibra turbo will knock on 50mpg and do 160mph, so fail to see the big deal, hence why I thought you were claiming 50mpg at 147mph, as otherwise what you're claiming is underwhelming.

Can be laid to rest now it's been established it was a poorly worded and underwhelming statement
So your 144k Calibra Turbo averaged 50mpg?? must have been a special one!!

or did you mean on the motorway with the throttle held steady doing 60mph??
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It would just about do 50mpg in 6th on A roads, big struggle, but considering it was knocking on 300bhp think that's good.
Mid 30's for most driving, superb on fuel it is

Tiff - what's been going on mate?
Always thought this was best site going, but looks to have gone downhill since I've come on and looked (am after a cossie soon) ?

I'm nothing to do with Chip either, but have learnt a lot from his posts on here and a couple Vaux forums
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