Stu's Coil pack works fine now, Not his fault
06-12-2007, 09:35 AM
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Stu's Coil pack works fine now, Not his fault
Tried calling Stu on his landline and mobile but no answer, he must be busy.
Anyone know how to sort the rev counter issue? It's a K plate Sapphire and we have carried out the 'solder a wire onto the curcuit board' modification that Stu told me about but the rev counter still works at half speed.
All the other cars we have done this to have had aftermarket rev counters so I have not had to tackle this issue previously.... And before a smart ass says use an aftermarket rev counter... that is NOT an option.
Anyone know how to sort the rev counter issue? It's a K plate Sapphire and we have carried out the 'solder a wire onto the curcuit board' modification that Stu told me about but the rev counter still works at half speed.
All the other cars we have done this to have had aftermarket rev counters so I have not had to tackle this issue previously.... And before a smart ass says use an aftermarket rev counter... that is NOT an option.
06-12-2007, 10:36 AM
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Re: Stu's Coil pack and Rev counter slow, how to make it wor
Originally Posted by martin-reyland
Tried calling Stu on his landline and mobile but no answer, he must be busy.
Anyone know how to sort the rev counter issue? It's a K plate Sapphire and we have carried out the 'solder a wire onto the curcuit board' modification that Stu told me about but the rev counter still works at half speed.
All the other cars we have done this to have had aftermarket rev counters so I have not had to tackle this issue previously.... And before a smart ass says use an aftermarket rev counter... that is NOT an option.
Anyone know how to sort the rev counter issue? It's a K plate Sapphire and we have carried out the 'solder a wire onto the curcuit board' modification that Stu told me about but the rev counter still works at half speed.
All the other cars we have done this to have had aftermarket rev counters so I have not had to tackle this issue previously.... And before a smart ass says use an aftermarket rev counter... that is NOT an option.
06-12-2007, 11:19 AM
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Re: Stu's Coil pack and Rev counter slow, how to make it wor
Spoke to Martin and hopefully all is well and it was an external issue not related to the driver at all.
Everyone reading please note the "Sometimes"
The tachs are normally perfectly ok on later cars.
Its the early 25yr old ones that are the biggest problem., but for reference the main issues with the tach drive are:
1) Supressor in the green wire not removed.
2) Supressor IS removed but green wires not reconnected to each other.
3) Power input to pin 20 too low. (sub 13v)
4) Wire to tach in poor condition in engine bay. (Advise wire direct to driver)
5) Rear of tach mod not performed.
Hope this helps somebody, but if not you have 2 options.
1) Send Tach to Speedy Cables in London area for recal to WS config.
2) Fit any aftermarket tach.
3) Fit tach signal convertor unit.
4) Fit tach from WS Ford such as granada so athetics are retained.
Originally Posted by B9KOS
Done the coilpack conversion on a few friends cars and sometimes the rev counter will not work no matter what you do
The tachs are normally perfectly ok on later cars.
Its the early 25yr old ones that are the biggest problem., but for reference the main issues with the tach drive are:
1) Supressor in the green wire not removed.
2) Supressor IS removed but green wires not reconnected to each other.
3) Power input to pin 20 too low. (sub 13v)
4) Wire to tach in poor condition in engine bay. (Advise wire direct to driver)
5) Rear of tach mod not performed.
Hope this helps somebody, but if not you have 2 options.
1) Send Tach to Speedy Cables in London area for recal to WS config.
2) Fit any aftermarket tach.
3) Fit tach signal convertor unit.
4) Fit tach from WS Ford such as granada so athetics are retained.
06-12-2007, 11:21 AM
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Re: Stu's Coil pack and Rev counter slow, how to make it wor
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by B9KOS
Done the coilpack conversion on a few friends cars and sometimes the rev counter will not work no matter what you do
The tachs are normally perfectly ok on later cars.
Its the early 25yr old ones that are the biggest problem
Just typical none of the ones we did worked
06-12-2007, 11:23 AM
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Re: Stu's Coil pack and Rev counter slow, how to make it wor
Originally Posted by B9KOS
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by B9KOS
Done the coilpack conversion on a few friends cars and sometimes the rev counter will not work no matter what you do
The tachs are normally perfectly ok on later cars.
Its the early 25yr old ones that are the biggest problem
Just typical none of the ones we did worked 
You sorted them yet mate? Dont live with no tach, they are all fixable using one of the mentioned methods. If i need to flash the units to version 1.2 then i will do no problem as they are better at tach drive than the very early models.
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06-12-2007, 11:27 AM
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feista's are easy to sort as you can just swap the whole clock unit for a coilpack clock, as fiesta ran coilpacks.
seirra didnt so this is the pain, otherwise it would be an easy fix like yours matt
seirra didnt so this is the pain, otherwise it would be an easy fix like yours matt
06-12-2007, 11:29 AM
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Re: Stu's Coil pack and Rev counter slow, how to make it wor
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by B9KOS
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by B9KOS
Done the coilpack conversion on a few friends cars and sometimes the rev counter will not work no matter what you do
The tachs are normally perfectly ok on later cars.
Its the early 25yr old ones that are the biggest problem
Just typical none of the ones we did worked You sorted them yet mate? Dont live with no tach, they are all fixable using one of the mentioned methods. If i need to flash the units to version 1.2 then i will do no problem as they are better at tach drive than the very early models.
We all have STACK rev counters now 
06-12-2007, 11:29 AM
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dont wanna high jack the threadbut.... as mine is a poor spec car i didnt even have the green wire going into the back of the dials!!!!!!!, its running of the green wire in the engine bay!
06-12-2007, 11:30 AM
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It's sorted now, just needed to put the rev counter signal wire in the right hole on the ecu plug, it's a Ryan loom and he mistakenly thought the Sapphire was on P8.
Rev counter works fine and just so everyone knows this was not an issue with Stu's parts
Rev counter works fine and just so everyone knows this was not an issue with Stu's parts
06-12-2007, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by martin-reyland
It's sorted now, just needed to put the rev counter signal wire in the right hole on the ecu plug, it's a Ryan loom and he mistakenly thought the Sapphire was on P8.
Rev counter works fine and just so everyone knows this was not an issue with Stu's parts
Rev counter works fine and just so everyone knows this was not an issue with Stu's parts
Had my coilpack conversion for over 12 months and not had a miss fire since
06-12-2007, 11:38 AM
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dont wanna high jack the threadbut.... as mine is a poor spec car i didnt even have the green wire going into the back of the dials!!!!!!!, its running of the green wire in the engine bay!
Was the driver a diy install, and if so, what wire was connected to pin 21? The grey one?
06-12-2007, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by mk3matt
dont wanna high jack the threadbut.... as mine is a poor spec car i didnt even have the green wire going into the back of the dials!!!!!!!, its running of the green wire in the engine bay!
Was the driver a diy install, and if so, what wire was connected to pin 21? The grey one?
it revs to a max of 2800rpm, i attached to the green wire which was what i was advised, there was 2 green wires going into the bulkhead from the engie bay, but theyt do not reach the back of the rev counter.martin, glad yours is sorted mate!
06-12-2007, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by mk3matt
dont wanna high jack the threadbut.... as mine is a poor spec car i didnt even have the green wire going into the back of the dials!!!!!!!, its running of the green wire in the engine bay!
Was the driver a diy install, and if so, what wire was connected to pin 21? The grey one?
it revs to a max of 2800rpm, i attached to the green wire which was what i was advised, there was 2 green wires going into the bulkhead from the engine bay, but theyt do not reach the back of the rev counter.martin, glad yours is sorted mate!
You need to connect pin 21 to the tach and only the tach mate as per the instructions. The problem is, you may well have damaged the driver now by connecting it to the coils.
06-12-2007, 12:57 PM
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dont wanna high jack the threadbut.... as mine is a poor spec car i didnt even have the green wire going into the back of the dials!!!!!!!, its running of the green wire in the engine bay!
Was the driver a diy install, and if so, what wire was connected to pin 21? The grey one?
it revs to a max of 2800rpm, i attached to the green wire which was what i was advised, there was 2 green wires going into the bulkhead from the engine bay, but theyt do not reach the back of the rev counter.martin, glad yours is sorted mate!
You need to connect pin 21 to the tach and only the tach mate as per the instructions. The problem is, you may well have damaged the driver now by connecting it to the coils.
so jus to comfirm ( sorry im a bit of an amatur (( no sh!t)) its a grey wire? how do i identify pin 21? cheers for your help mate
06-12-2007, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by martin-reyland
It's sorted now, just needed to put the rev counter signal wire in the right hole on the ecu plug, it's a Ryan loom and he mistakenly thought the Sapphire was on P8.
Rev counter works fine and just so everyone knows this was not an issue with Stu's parts
Rev counter works fine and just so everyone knows this was not an issue with Stu's parts
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06-12-2007, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mk3matt
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by mk3matt
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by mk3matt
dont wanna high jack the threadbut.... as mine is a poor spec car i didnt even have the green wire going into the back of the dials!!!!!!!, its running of the green wire in the engine bay!
Was the driver a diy install, and if so, what wire was connected to pin 21? The grey one?
it revs to a max of 2800rpm, i attached to the green wire which was what i was advised, there was 2 green wires going into the bulkhead from the engine bay, but theyt do not reach the back of the rev counter.martin, glad yours is sorted mate!
You need to connect pin 21 to the tach and only the tach mate as per the instructions. The problem is, you may well have damaged the driver now by connecting it to the coils.
so jus to comfirm ( sorry im a bit of an amatur (( no sh!t)) its a grey wire? how do i identify pin 21? cheers for your help mate
If you installed the driver in teh ecu, you must have soldered a wire to pin 21 and cut the pin internally thus isolating it from the ecu motherboard? This was pin 21. They are labelled both inside teh case and inside the ecu multiplug on he sides once the cover is removed.
This pin is ALL that should be connected to your tach. Forget that green wire. Alternatively, leave wiring as it is, isolate pin 21 from harness and install a Fiesta XR2i or RST set of clocks.
06-12-2007, 01:16 PM
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dont wanna high jack the threadbut.... as mine is a poor spec car i didnt even have the green wire going into the back of the dials!!!!!!!, its running of the green wire in the engine bay!
Was the driver a diy install, and if so, what wire was connected to pin 21? The grey one?
it revs to a max of 2800rpm, i attached to the green wire which was what i was advised, there was 2 green wires going into the bulkhead from the engine bay, but theyt do not reach the back of the rev counter.martin, glad yours is sorted mate!
You need to connect pin 21 to the tach and only the tach mate as per the instructions. The problem is, you may well have damaged the driver now by connecting it to the coils.
so jus to comfirm ( sorry im a bit of an amatur (( no sh!t)) its a grey wire? how do i identify pin 21? cheers for your help mateIf you installed the driver in teh ecu, you must have soldered a wire to pin 21 and cut the pin internally thus isolating it from the ecu motherboard? This was pin 21. They are labelled both inside teh case and inside the ecu multiplug on he sides once the cover is removed.
This pin is ALL that should be connected to your tach. Forget that green wire. Alternatively, leave wiring as it is, isolate pin 21 from harness and install a Fiesta XR2i or RST set of clocks.
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06-12-2007, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by mk3matt
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by mk3matt
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by mk3matt
dont wanna high jack the threadbut.... as mine is a poor spec car i didnt even have the green wire going into the back of the dials!!!!!!!, its running of the green wire in the engine bay!
Was the driver a diy install, and if so, what wire was connected to pin 21? The grey one?
it revs to a max of 2800rpm, i attached to the green wire which was what i was advised, there was 2 green wires going into the bulkhead from the engine bay, but theyt do not reach the back of the rev counter.martin, glad yours is sorted mate!
You need to connect pin 21 to the tach and only the tach mate as per the instructions. The problem is, you may well have damaged the driver now by connecting it to the coils.
so jus to comfirm ( sorry im a bit of an amatur (( no sh!t)) its a grey wire? how do i identify pin 21? cheers for your help mateIf you installed the driver in teh ecu, you must have soldered a wire to pin 21 and cut the pin internally thus isolating it from the ecu motherboard? This was pin 21. They are labelled both inside teh case and inside the ecu multiplug on he sides once the cover is removed.
This pin is ALL that should be connected to your tach. Forget that green wire. Alternatively, leave wiring as it is, isolate pin 21 from harness and install a Fiesta XR2i or RST set of clocks.
i got a manual choke 
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10-12-2007, 05:42 PM
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