Car paint people what the feck is mopping a car
05-12-2007, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryan
polishing a car with a mop.
it's basically polishing a car using a machine and compound polishes to remove light scratches, oxidation and other minor marks.
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05-12-2007, 10:07 PM
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Its what i do for a living,for the past 9 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When you see these people go "ohhhh its a fuckin awesome paint job",TRUST ME,it dont come out the booth like that!!!!!
Theres loads of stuf out there now to make my job easier..3M and Ferecla have great products..BUT if you dont know what your doing,dont bother,as you will SERIOUSLEY fuck your car up!!!!
All it involves its flattin a car down,then using Trizact or a Mirka pad,rub that all over it to remove and scrathces your put in with your wet and dry,and mop it up....
And who ever up there said "do it by hand",dont quite work like that my friend
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When you see these people go "ohhhh its a fuckin awesome paint job",TRUST ME,it dont come out the booth like that!!!!!
Theres loads of stuf out there now to make my job easier..3M and Ferecla have great products..BUT if you dont know what your doing,dont bother,as you will SERIOUSLEY fuck your car up!!!!
All it involves its flattin a car down,then using Trizact or a Mirka pad,rub that all over it to remove and scrathces your put in with your wet and dry,and mop it up....
And who ever up there said "do it by hand",dont quite work like that my friend
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05-12-2007, 10:15 PM
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When i did the 5........
AWESOME paint job,to the untrained eye
"Flatted"
"Mopped"
And you end up with this....
Long,tiedious jobmbut so worth it for the final results,and il be honest,i really enjoy doing it now.......
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AWESOME paint job,to the untrained eye
"Flatted"
"Mopped"
And you end up with this....
Long,tiedious jobmbut so worth it for the final results,and il be honest,i really enjoy doing it now.......
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05-12-2007, 10:32 PM
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As warleydaddy says, if you havn't done it before then be VERY careful as you can easily make a mess of it. I used to see plenty of people at work going through the laquer or paint so they ended up back at the bodyshop.
Ive done quite a few in the past at work, and although im not the best at it, some of mine used to end up swirly once out in the sun and i had to do it again outside. Theres a real skill to doing it properly and totally swirl free.
Ive done quite a few in the past at work, and although im not the best at it, some of mine used to end up swirly once out in the sun and i had to do it again outside. Theres a real skill to doing it properly and totally swirl free.
06-12-2007, 06:31 PM
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FECK IS A MOP
USING a mop is not for anyone to use you can easy buff throughthe paint on edges and lines and swirl fook out of the body try to keep the mop head wet at all times and use a good autoglym polish after
been in the bodywork trade for 15yrs + buffed many of cars take it to somone that can do it good
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09-12-2007, 04:32 PM
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Pete - How much would a respectable company charge for a fill mop?
and what about freshly painted panels?
you hear so much about you've got to let it sit and dry properly for 2 weeks or something
is this all bullshit because it looks like you've done it there and then?
09-12-2007, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dojj
Originally Posted by Smit
Pete - How much would a respectable company charge for a fill mop?
and what about freshly painted panels?
you hear so much about you've got to let it sit and dry properly for 2 weeks or something
is this all bullshit because it looks like you've done it there and then?
if we leave for any longer its an arse to flat
we charge bout £60 to mop a car aswell
09-12-2007, 06:46 PM
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Minimum is £200 realistically, if you want more than a quick mop.
Also depends on the car, as for example german paint is very hard, so takes longer as it needs more work.
Then there's scratches to get out.
Get what you pay for really, depends what level of finish you want.
If you look under petrol station lights, you can see all the lacquer scratches.
After a proper machine polish you'll end up with paint like this:
Also depends on the car, as for example german paint is very hard, so takes longer as it needs more work.
Then there's scratches to get out.
Get what you pay for really, depends what level of finish you want.
If you look under petrol station lights, you can see all the lacquer scratches.
After a proper machine polish you'll end up with paint like this:
09-12-2007, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dojj
Originally Posted by Smit
Pete - How much would a respectable company charge for a fill mop?
and what about freshly painted panels?
you hear so much about you've got to let it sit and dry properly for 2 weeks or something
is this all bullshit because it looks like you've done it there and then?
i often paint a panel and can mopp it in 3 hrs gotta ba carefull though
done the wifes focus bumper last week and was well dry after 3 hrs but in fitting it i squidged the paint and moved it exposing the primer
had to paint the fookin thing again 2 days later
mind you i prefer leaving till the morning
09-12-2007, 07:55 PM
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Well if i do a mop for someone,i charge £60 all over...
but i know if you go in to a garage,esp my old place,they charged someone £170!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As said above,if you dont know what your doing,DONT BOTHER!!!!!!!!!!!! It will all end in tears!!!!!!
And yeh Trizact is the FUCKIN BOLLOCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ive always been a fan of G,but when i tried Trizact,ESP with the trizact pads,its just fuckin unreal man!!!
As for leavin panels for 2 weeks,WHAT A LOAD OF BOLLOCKS!!!!!!!!!!!! Aslong as you use the right activator,you can mop a job within 40mins!!!! ok,it will still be soft,but you can do it,as i have MANY a times....
Pete...
but i know if you go in to a garage,esp my old place,they charged someone £170!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As said above,if you dont know what your doing,DONT BOTHER!!!!!!!!!!!! It will all end in tears!!!!!!
And yeh Trizact is the FUCKIN BOLLOCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ive always been a fan of G,but when i tried Trizact,ESP with the trizact pads,its just fuckin unreal man!!!
As for leavin panels for 2 weeks,WHAT A LOAD OF BOLLOCKS!!!!!!!!!!!! Aslong as you use the right activator,you can mop a job within 40mins!!!! ok,it will still be soft,but you can do it,as i have MANY a times....
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09-12-2007, 09:19 PM
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How longs a piece of string???
Depends on colour,how bad it is,size etc etc..
Obvious,£60 is for a normal size car,obvoiusley,if you turned up in a range rover,then it aint going to be £60!
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Depends on colour,how bad it is,size etc etc..
Obvious,£60 is for a normal size car,obvoiusley,if you turned up in a range rover,then it aint going to be £60!
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09-12-2007, 09:23 PM
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no m8 he cracks out the g3 and mops away then polishes/washes car
for £60 id spend 1 hr mopping and 30 mins polishing/cleaning
i use the 3m perfect stuff quite like it
for £60 id spend 1 hr mopping and 30 mins polishing/cleaning
i use the 3m perfect stuff quite like it
09-12-2007, 09:26 PM
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Ah right 
Thought it must be like that for £60.
Better than nothing job, without wishing to sound insulting.
When I had mine done it took all day, and got all the lacquer swirls out along with a couple light scratches.
Often heard term 'mopping' wasn't 100% sure how far it went
Thought it must be like that for £60.
Better than nothing job, without wishing to sound insulting.
When I had mine done it took all day, and got all the lacquer swirls out along with a couple light scratches.
Often heard term 'mopping' wasn't 100% sure how far it went
09-12-2007, 09:28 PM
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Time wise it dont bother me.... If it takes me a hour,or 5,il still do the same job!!!!!
3m stuff is good,and Triazact is 3m!!!!!!! Green top,then use machine polish with a waffle (blue top),then wax... Its aslo better using the 3m polish/tack rags,remove most swirls too...
I know Trizact is about £27 a bottle,BUT if you use it,you HAVE TO use the Trizact pads too if youve had to flat anything...If its just a simple "can you mop my car pleae,to make it shinney again" then G3 is better....
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3m stuff is good,and Triazact is 3m!!!!!!! Green top,then use machine polish with a waffle (blue top),then wax... Its aslo better using the 3m polish/tack rags,remove most swirls too...
I know Trizact is about £27 a bottle,BUT if you use it,you HAVE TO use the Trizact pads too if youve had to flat anything...If its just a simple "can you mop my car pleae,to make it shinney again" then G3 is better....
Pete...
09-12-2007, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by C4llyT
Ah right
Thought it must be like that for £60.
Better than nothing job, without wishing to sound insulting.
When I had mine done it took all day, and got all the lacquer swirls out along with a couple light scratches.
Often heard term 'mopping' wasn't 100% sure how far it went
Thought it must be like that for £60.
Better than nothing job, without wishing to sound insulting.
When I had mine done it took all day, and got all the lacquer swirls out along with a couple light scratches.
Often heard term 'mopping' wasn't 100% sure how far it went
Pete....
09-12-2007, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by C4llyT
Also depends on the car, as for example german paint is very hard, so takes longer as it needs more work.
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09-12-2007, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by warleydaddy
Originally Posted by C4llyT
Also depends on the car, as for example german paint is very hard, so takes longer as it needs more work.
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09-12-2007, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by warleydaddy
Originally Posted by C4llyT
Also depends on the car, as for example german paint is very hard, so takes longer as it needs more work.
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10-12-2007, 08:50 AM
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It seems to be all German cars, anyone that has to work with these cars - sorting defects, swirls, scratches etc will tell you.
That scratch took a lot of time and flatting to get rid of, yet was something silly like 0.2 of a micron to achieve it.
Could have used t-cut or similar for a week by hand and not touched it.
That scratch took a lot of time and flatting to get rid of, yet was something silly like 0.2 of a micron to achieve it.
Could have used t-cut or similar for a week by hand and not touched it.