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Old 22-01-2008, 01:11 PM
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Red16 - You can definitely see he's filling out! Have you given him the option of veg? My beardy used to scoff it down with a little calcium powder sprinkled on it!

CraigJ - she's lovely!!!

Dont forget to include some carpet pythons in your collection!! one of the best i reckon, my two were soooo friendly!
Old 22-01-2008, 02:07 PM
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Iv got a Rainbow Boa wich is gorgeous ill get some pics up tonight when im home.

Loving the Viv that the Water Dragons in it looks rally smart and the Red Tail is also stuning
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Originally Posted by Red16
CraigJ im shite scared of snakes
lol u big wuss.

I cant understand what people find scary about snakes. worst it can do is bite you. just like a dog can.

I used to work with reptiles and have never been bitten.
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Originally Posted by CraigJ
Originally Posted by Red16
CraigJ im shite scared of snakes
lol u big wuss.

I cant understand what people find scary about snakes. worst it can do is bite you. just like a dog can.

I used to work with reptiles and have never been bitten.
so true,and id much rather have a nip from a snake than a rottie
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Originally Posted by CraigJ
Nice Dragon, just bought my first snake in about 10 years today. Used to have loads as a kid but just did'nt have the time for them so sold them all.

Just bought a young Red tailed Boa today, its about 3-4 months old. Hoping to get a new collection together again, next up is a royal and then maybe a breeding pair of Bearded dragons.





nice common boa mate its not a redtail
Old 22-01-2008, 06:21 PM
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Doesnt the tail get red when they are a bit more mature though?
Old 22-01-2008, 06:26 PM
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I know, Many people who do not know much about snakes are fearful of all "constrictors," especially large constrictors; Red-Tail Boa sounds much less threatening. Lots of animals have different names like Royal pythons which are also known as Ball pythons. Ford and Rust buckets etc. You get the idea.


Also the pics above dont show its full colour, Its tail is a lot redder than it looks in the pic.
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Originally Posted by Kamike
Doesnt the tail get red when they are a bit more mature though?
no it dosent dude thats a common boa with a nice tail.
Old 22-01-2008, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by cossiecrew
Originally Posted by Kamike
Doesnt the tail get red when they are a bit more mature though?
no it dosent dude thats a common boa with a nice tail.
Aw well still a nice boa
Old 22-01-2008, 06:31 PM
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Bit of info for you.


In fact, not all boa constrictors are red-tailed. While many boas on the market are true red-tailed Boa constrictor constrictor imported from Brazil, with a few coming from very limited areas in Columbia, the Amazon, Guyana, and Surinam, most are actually B. c. imperator from Columbia, with a few coming in from Mexico, Hogg Island and countries throughout Central America. There are seven other subspecies of B. constrictor from South America which can sometimes be found in the retail and private pet trade. All of the Boa ssp. are listed as threatened on Appendix II of the Convention on the International Trade in Endangered Species (CITES); the Argentine Boa (B. c. occidentalis) is on Appendix I--the endangered listing. Appendix II animals can be exported and imported with the proper permits, and can legally be sold through the pet trade; Appendix I animals require special permits to buy, sell, trade and own.

Ranging from the high cloud forests to the dry low lands, these beautifully marked snakes are only moderately arboreal. Frequently found near human habitation (due to the quantity of rodents found near human habitats), Boas are primarily nocturnal or crepuscular (active at dawn and dusk). In the extreme northern and southern portions of their range, the Boas will often go through several weeks of inactivity to get through the periods of extreme cold or drought, a behavior that may be observed in captivity as the weather changes throughout the year. Those snakes living in the consistently high humid temperatures of the rain forest areas will remain active throughout the year.

Boas devour a variety of prey in the wild - amphibians, lizards, other snakes, birds and mammals. In captivity, they should be fed pre-killed mice, rats and, when adults, rabbits and chickens. You can buy the rodents and rabbits at pet stores; these animals have been specially raised and are clean, healthy and well-nourished. Chickens can be purchased at hatcheries; do not feed raw chicken pieces purchased at the grocery store - up to 80% of it may be infected with Salmonella bacteria. Chickens from hatcheries should also be considered suspect due to the overcrowded conditions typical of most hatcheries; check the hatchery out first before you buy. Under no circumstances should you feed your snakes wild-caught prey items. Wild rodents and other animals carry a variety of parasites and bacteria for which your snake has no immunity. If you cannot afford to buy the proper food, you should not buy the snake.

That cute little 2 ounce, 14-22" hatchling laying cupped in the palm of your hand will increase its size by up to 300% in its first year, reaching 5-6 feet during that time. The following year will add another 3-4 feet to its length, as well as several pounds. After the second year, the growth rate slows down significantly, but snakes do continue to grow, however slightly, during their entire lives. The live bearing females will give birth to 10-60 young (depending upon the subspecies) after a gestational period of 4-10 months (depending upon temperature and several other factors). Unlike most big snakes, many female Boas do not bear young each year.
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Originally Posted by CraigJ
I know, Many people who do not know much about snakes are fearful of all "constrictors," especially large constrictors; Red-Tail Boa sounds much less threatening. Lots of animals have different names like Royal pythons which are also known as Ball pythons. Ford and Rust buckets etc. You get the idea.
but what im saying is thats a common boa not a redtail boa redtail exists but that isnt one its nothing like royal python and ball python we call them royals yanks call them balls i keep and breed a very large collection of burmese pythons and boas including commons and redtails there 2 different things
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and thats what yours is a bci. nice boa anyway just correcting your statement
Old 22-01-2008, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by cossiecrew
Originally Posted by CraigJ
I know, Many people who do not know much about snakes are fearful of all "constrictors," especially large constrictors; Red-Tail Boa sounds much less threatening. Lots of animals have different names like Royal pythons which are also known as Ball pythons. Ford and Rust buckets etc. You get the idea.
but what im saying is thats a common boa not a redtail boa redtail exists but that isnt one its nothing like royal python and ball python we call them royals yanks call them balls i keep and breed a very large collection of burmese pythons and boas including commons and redtails there 2 different things

I didnt disagree with you, see first 2 words of my post. Most people know them as red tails so why change it lol.
Old 22-01-2008, 06:44 PM
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either way nice boa what you pay for it ?male or female or is it unsexed
Old 22-01-2008, 06:53 PM
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Unsexed at the min. Paid Ł35 for it.
Old 22-01-2008, 07:17 PM
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bargain that mate
Old 22-01-2008, 07:20 PM
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Was cheap cos its got a birth defect, has a small kink in its neck (like 2 of the bones are fused together) Thought id give it a good home and see how it does. Feeds fine and it doesn't cause it any probs so should be fine.
Old 22-01-2008, 07:23 PM
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http://bp1.blogger.com/_D8VwTKAphks/...-h/Menetia.jpg
worlds smallest lizard lol only one i could get away with cos of the missus lol is the boa not as easy to tell the sex of as normal snakes
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Originally Posted by jacko
http://bp1.blogger.com/_D8VwTKAphks/RlZ9p3M2BJI/AAAAAAAAC0Y/qOsIdxMsihw/s1600-h/Menetia.jpg
worlds smallest lizard lol only one i could get away with cos of the missus lol is the boa not as easy to tell the sex of as normal snakes
the same i personally use the probe method as i think its best not into popping
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fucking help please .trying to upload a pic for you all but photo bucket is fucking me off .any one help
Old 22-01-2008, 08:51 PM
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heres 1 of my babies .i had him for about 4 years .i realy fucking miss him now
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Old 22-01-2008, 08:54 PM
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the above post is wot i was trying to post ,that was my baby i had him for 4 years .nasty cunt he was lol
Old 22-01-2008, 09:38 PM
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I like water dragons, I was gonna have one but I bought a bearded dragon about 7 years ago and fell in love as soon as i saw him

Part of his tail got damaged not long ago and came off,about an inch from the end. And with beardies they dont grow back
Old 23-01-2008, 10:40 AM
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Wow! hes a beauty! I used to have a Nile Monitor, he was an evil piece of work too!
Old 23-01-2008, 11:28 PM
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maria not tried feeding him veg yet... i feed him worms daily in a shallow dish, he doesnt always eat them while im around unfortunately should i just stick the chopped veg on the plate or stick it up a height in the branches?

CraigJ i dont know what i find scary about snakes either, i just dont like them, held one in edinburgh zoo last year with the assistance of a member of staff, and my voice went all trembly while i was holding it
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Originally Posted by danny_boy699
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wow... he is really big how big was his enclosure?

My dragon is coming along nicely now... not been weighed in ages but is definitely filling out... so happy now he's started eating properly was a big worry when he stopped eating

heres a photo i took last night of him lying on his high up branch under the heat lamp.

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awwwwwwwwww he looks so so healthy!!

did you try the veg in the end??

i literally bought a bag of frozen mixed carrot, peas, sweetcorn, defrosted it and put it on a little dish on the floor.... but put it in when he is likely to be hungry as he'll be more tempted to try it then! obviously you can only leave it in for afew hours otherwise it'll start to smell!!
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tried some veg in his food dish once or twice but he just ate the worms from underneath instead might try again with the frozen stuff you mentioned... be a lt easier to keep with it being frozen.

He is eating well but he will only eat meal worms... not interested in crickets/locusts/veg at the moment.

Going to get him out later and weigh him... when he was poorly earlier in the year he only weighed 14g at the vets
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The thing is with Meal worms, they are one of the tastiest meals you can give them! I only used to give them as treats to mine!

If you take them away for a couple of days, he'll soon go hungry and start to eat crickets!!!
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i thought meal worms were fine for regular feeding but it was wax worms that were to be given as a treat?

Might try leaving him off the worms and introduce a few dusted locusts.
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Wax worms are mega tasty for them! and meal worms are good too, but variety is the spice of life as they say!

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LOL

got to go for ragon food toay so will grab him some locusts and mealworms.

Did you used to put the locusts in the fridge briefly before feeding to slow them down and make them easier to catch?
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No, put em in at normal temperature, it helps to keep him active!!! Only put one in at a time first though.

and take him off the worms compeltely until he starts to feed on other things, other wise he will just become worm dependant if that makes sense?

Ok, if he hasnt eaten anything after a week of trying, then you may well have to resprt back to the worms!
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Yeah the worm dependancy is something i was a bit worried about, especially with him not showing any interest in other foods

just been to the shop and got a pot of waxworms to be used as treats when handling him, some locusts and some giant mealworms just incase he snubs the locusts

Had him out today and weighed him...





he's now weighing in at a rather plump 52g not bad considering he was only 34g last month think i can safely say he has his appetite back
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he looks REALLY well!!!!

good luck with the locusts!!


if you have some long nose tweezers, it might be worth holding one is there, and 'teasing' him with it.

do you hand feed him at all? If you do, he may be more 'open' to you feeding him a locust rather than him having to catch it!

one of my beardys in the end though would only feed if it was out of my hand, became a newsance after a while!


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