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Old 16-11-2007, 07:13 AM
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Keep the discussion coming folks.

What about usernames and siggys etc. A common complaint, but what are your thoughts?
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keep the sig sizes the same as they are now, its a joke on rsoc bb
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I don't have a problem with siggys as I have them turned off

Name changes confuse me, so it would be helpful if those changing their names can only change them if they agree to have a tag for a few weeks saying... formerly <insert old username>

A forum for non-Ford vehicles would be a good idea, as someone suggested earlier.

Maybe a 'Newbie' forum where newbies are restricted to posting only in this until they reach 20 replies, then they can post in other forums (not too sure on this one, but it's a suggestion).
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I think when a user gets banned, the moderator that does is should edit the users signature to display who banned them, why it happened, when it happened and when the ban is lifted:

1. It'll avoid the problem of the user not receiving an email, they'll be able to clearly see why on all their posts.
2. It'll avoid 5 of their mates posting up "Why was so and so banned" which tend to turn into personal attacks.
3. It'll make the moderators accountable to the users of the forum. After all, it's their forum.
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
If you want a radical pruning exercise, then:

Split into two GD sections (one car related, the other everything but cars). Keep the muppet room, as they wouldn't be able to cope in the real world .

But, get rid of:
Music and Car Audio discussion (can be in GD above plus there are dedicated sites for this)
Fitness and weight training (can be in GD above plus there are dedicated sites for this)
Interesting links (can be in GD above)
Computers and IT (can be in GD above plus there are dedicated sites for this)
Games Room (can be in GD plus there are dedicated sites for this)
Mens / Ladies Room (with porn being so easily accessible by the internet, it's hardly necessary that we have a room for the wankers amongst us - although I will REALLY miss JohnnyBs photos )
Contributors (never even looked at it )
TOTB forum (only really needs reinstating from April through to August, so if it is taking up space drastically needed, can be removed - although I try and keep it paired down, so it doesn't take up too much space anyway ).
What Mike said The first sugestion sounds good to me, I hardly ever venture anywhere other than GD.
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Originally Posted by Paddy
I think when a user gets banned, the moderator that does is should edit the users signature to display who banned them, why it happened, when it happened and when the ban is lifted:

1. It'll avoid the problem of the user not receiving an email, they'll be able to clearly see why on all their posts.
2. It'll avoid 5 of their mates posting up "Why was so and so banned" which tend to turn into personal attacks.
3. It'll make the moderators accountable to the users of the forum. After all, it's their forum.
A good idea but if like me, you have siggys turned off it wont help

How about a permanent sticky at the top of GD that Mods can post in, listing bans, it will cover the 3 points you have made above.
Old 16-11-2007, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Redkop
Originally Posted by Paddy
I think when a user gets banned, the moderator that does is should edit the users signature to display who banned them, why it happened, when it happened and when the ban is lifted:

1. It'll avoid the problem of the user not receiving an email, they'll be able to clearly see why on all their posts.
2. It'll avoid 5 of their mates posting up "Why was so and so banned" which tend to turn into personal attacks.
3. It'll make the moderators accountable to the users of the forum. After all, it's their forum.
A good idea but if like me, you have siggys turned off it wont help

How about a permanent sticky at the top of GD that Mods can post in, listing bans, it will cover the 3 points you have made above.
A "Banned Members" room which is accessable to all members regardless of status would be best for this.

In this room, each banned user would have a thread and in that thread would detail the reason for the ban, the length of ban and who banned them - this would eliminate the need to email people about their ban, adjust signatures saying why they were banned etc and generally make the whole process easier for everyone

This way, everyone can see who what why where and when, and then any subsequent bans can be added into that users profile so everyone can see and the mods can work out who is due what ban next etc etc. This would also then build up a good profile of persistant offenders and their punnishments.

Make this room read only to everyone except the webteam who can add details etc - this way everyone can see what has gone on and the users "profile thread" cannot be posted on with pointless bullshit from everyone else and their chums.

Old 16-11-2007, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Graceland
Originally Posted by Redkop
Originally Posted by Paddy
I think when a user gets banned, the moderator that does is should edit the users signature to display who banned them, why it happened, when it happened and when the ban is lifted:

1. It'll avoid the problem of the user not receiving an email, they'll be able to clearly see why on all their posts.
2. It'll avoid 5 of their mates posting up "Why was so and so banned" which tend to turn into personal attacks.
3. It'll make the moderators accountable to the users of the forum. After all, it's their forum.
A good idea but if like me, you have siggys turned off it wont help

How about a permanent sticky at the top of GD that Mods can post in, listing bans, it will cover the 3 points you have made above.
A "Banned Members" room which is accessable to all members regardless of status would be best for this.

In this room, each banned user would have a thread and in that thread would detail the reason for the ban, the length of ban and who banned them - this would eliminate the need to email people about their ban, adjust signatures saying why they were banned etc and generally make the whole process easier for everyone

This way, everyone can see who what why where and when, and then any subsequent bans can be added into that users profile so everyone can see and the mods can work out who is due what ban next etc etc. This would also then build up a good profile of persistant offenders and their punnishments.

Make this room read only to everyone except the webteam who can add details etc - this way everyone can see what has gone on and the users "profile thread" cannot be posted on with pointless bullshit from everyone else and their chums.

I meant that it should be visible to everyone
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1) Reduce the number of rooms.

2) Run the site for the benefit of the members NOT The traders.

3) Traders should not be moderators.

4) Bring back Passion for Fords
Old 16-11-2007, 09:25 AM
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I had a very good suggestion but as I am not a gold member, I obviously don't care enough about the site so my suggestion must be a bad one.

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.... wrong thread
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
If you want a radical pruning exercise, then:

Split into two GD sections (one car related, the other everything but cars). Keep the muppet room, as they wouldn't be able to cope in the real world .

But, get rid of:
Music and Car Audio discussion (can be in GD above plus there are dedicated sites for this)
Fitness and weight training (can be in GD above plus there are dedicated sites for this)
Interesting links (can be in GD above)
Computers and IT (can be in GD above plus there are dedicated sites for this)
Games Room (can be in GD plus there are dedicated sites for this)
Mens / Ladies Room (with porn being so easily accessible by the internet, it's hardly necessary that we have a room for the wankers amongst us - although I will REALLY miss JohnnyBs photos )
Contributors (never even looked at it )
TOTB forum (only really needs reinstating from April through to August, so if it is taking up space drastically needed, can be removed - although I try and keep it paired down, so it doesn't take up too much space anyway ).
I disagree.

People are always going to have other interests and hobbies - just cos you're only obsessed with Cosworths Mr Rainbrd, don't punish everyone else!

Like the Computer and IT room - I've personally posted a few threads that have ended up in there, even though I have no interest in that stuff beyond what I need to know, and usually in a hurry! I certainly wouldn't want to sign up to another forum to post about something that can be answered here in a matter of minutes.

My last IT post got moved, and I was fine with that. I should have posted it in the right room to begin with. I just forgot, as like most, I post in GD most of the time.

Mutliple room forums for non-car related talk seem to work very well on turbosport and pistonheads. NO reason it can't work here, even if the volume of traffic is lower.

I personally think the Fitness room as an example has been quite a success.....
Old 16-11-2007, 11:27 AM
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why go through all this hard work when someones been banned?
just have a sticky at the top of gd with "currently banned" as the title and list who is the latest person to be banned, why they are banned and the duration
whoever does the banning takes the responsibitliy of putting their reasons there like "broke rule number 55, being naughty, banned for 1 day" and job done

you seem to have suddenly become preoccupised with 3 people who got banned in the past few weeks and forgotten about everything else this post was supposed to discuss

obviously you don't need to list spam type sorts because you'll just have "deleted from using passionford" next to their names

other than that, making huge sweeping changes wihtout informing the general usership of these changes is a bit wrong, if there was a big notification type post that said "we are going to be doing this over the next 7 days and would welcome your input after the trial has ended" it would draw more attention to what you were doing as well as making sure people noticed what you were doing and why you were doing it
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Love it...
A topic about what someone had for lunch gets 8 pages.

A topic about improving the forum everyone keeps moaning about barely makes 3 and has less actual replies than a topic about someone meeting and scaring some random and unfortunate dude called Danny.

Old 18-11-2007, 11:30 PM
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What I do not understand is why General Discussion and the Muppet room are not kept only for Gold Members.
I would have thought that giving people who support the site a little more freedom would be justified while those who do not support the site get use of the knowledge and vehicle threads which should be the basis of this forum imho
Old 18-11-2007, 11:40 PM
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"Text speak in an environment such as this forum is not necessary or welcome as the majority of people actually do not like it at all. This is a plain ENGLISH environment, so please use extreme discretion if you are tempted to use text speak of any kind. Two of the most widely known forum abbreviations are acceptable, that is 'LOL' and 'IMHO' and do not normally detract from the post content as they just both happen to be 'emotions' but please use plain, full, ENGLISH at all other times."

There's the first rule which would improve the forum.
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Good points men.
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I don't understand why the retarded want to close the muppet room, while where at it, there's a few other things in life I think should be closed down as I don't like them, they are as follows:

Netto.
Citreon.
Auldi.
Home and bargain.

I could be here all fucking night if I wanted too, but if I'm honest with myself, which I am, I know I don't like all these things so I keep the fuck away from them. Maybe, just maybe, you could stay away from the muppet room? Because if you close the muppet room you will only fill general discussion full of shite which you will then moan about. You bunch of fucking Imbeciles.

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Old 19-11-2007, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Love it...
A topic about what someone had for lunch gets 8 pages.

A topic about improving the forum everyone keeps moaning about barely makes 3 and has less actual replies than a topic about someone meeting and scaring some random and unfortunate dude called Danny.

If thats aimed at me Stu , then why was Danny unfortunate ???

The gobshite slaged me off for no reason at all .. so you would do nothing if he started to slag you of on here

I think not .

anyway back on topic

Ban Flux capacitor as im sick of him moaning because he had to change his username and he hates traders because he isnt one anymore

If im honest other than the speed and critical error issues ( that are being delt with )and the slight lack of mods i dont realy have any issues with PF ,
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does seem like people would rather just moan or bandwagon . bully rather than be constructive not saying you paul either just in general , beef the board up one min then tear the shit out of it the next , Did anyone watch the muppet show years ago most of the time its like watching the two old blokes in the balcony

i thin 2x GD
Get rid or put together what rooms can be
cut or archive alot of the database that isnt tech usfull info to help if poss smoother running
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
the slight lack of mods i dont realy have any issues with PF ,
can you say whats lacking paul because if some mod do moderate the board then there hitler cunts if they leave it be and hope comonsence provails we are cunts cos we aint doing enough
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Jay

This is only my opinion , but if you look at who is a mod on this site and look how oftern you actually see 90% of them on here i feel this is the problem
Im not saying these people are bad people im just saying isnt it time the mods were updated to more active users , this way the board will be run better as the more active mods will move posts ets as required instead of leaving all the work to just 3/4 people who then get called names as they are seen as hilters as its only them doing anything

I obviously dont have all the facts and figures to back up what im saying , its just my observation , so i could be completly wrong , but i do seem to only see 3/4 mods on here at regular times ,

there was a big change of mods a while back that seemed to go down well with the users , so isnt it time for another
Old 19-11-2007, 08:04 AM
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I also vote for closing the muppet room. that would weed out a whole load of useless fuckers who wouldnt use PF otherwise and have no real need to be on here and speak shite whilst taking up space


i'd say NO to splitting GD again. It was awful when that happened last
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
Jay

This is only my opinion , but if you look at who is a mod on this site and look how oftern you actually see 90% of them on here i feel this is the problem
Im not saying these people are bad people im just saying isnt it time the mods were updated to more active users , this way the board will be run better as the more active mods will move posts ets as required instead of leaving all the work to just 3/4 people who then get called names as they are seen as hilters as its only them doing anything

I obviously dont have all the facts and figures to back up what im saying , its just my observation , so i could be completly wrong , but i do seem to only see 3/4 mods on here at regular times ,

there was a big change of mods a while back that seemed to go down well with the users , so isnt it time for another
I have to agree with the above Paul.... it would be easy enough for Pet [or Stu if he still has Admin access] to check up in Admin CP to see the most active Mods and ones that just like having a Mod tag under their name.
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What about a combined Adult room...

So us ladies can join in on the fun instead of knitting threads like in our ladies room
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
If thats aimed at me Stu , then why was Danny unfortunate ???,
It was aimed at you yes, but not nastily, just matter of factly as you got more replies than this topic.

Surely you agree that slagging you off on the world wide web, then bumping into you is pretty un-fooking fortunate for him?

ROFLOL
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
....Ban Flux capacitor as im sick of him moaning because he had to change his username and he hates traders because he isnt one anymore
Dont be a coont Paul
I dont hate the traders at all
And for the record I chose NOT to be a trader as Stu will testify...

I only moaned about my username because I was forced to change it
even though I had it BEFORE I started trading and had stopped trading
just before those rules were enforced.
There were some inconsistencies with the rules as applied to me as
others were treated differently IMO.

Yes I moan about it, so what... I have finally accepted it but I like to
banter like the rest of you......

It is my personal opinion that this site is run now for the traders and not
the members so if you get stick from me...Tough, no rules broken
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perts & cars for sale should all have a price on them as a shite offer usually offends
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still think the best thing would be to put up a list of ideas that van be voted upon as ot what most people dislike and would change were they given admin god powers for an hour
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Originally Posted by UnseenMenace
What I do not understand is why General Discussion and the Muppet room are not kept only for Gold Members.
I would have thought that giving people who support the site a little more freedom would be justified while those who do not support the site get use of the knowledge and vehicle threads which should be the basis of this forum imho
Agreed, the sections of the site which are most used for wasting the bandwidth and CPU time of the server should be reserved for those people paying towards those things.

I see NO reason at all to allow non contributors to participate in the site in a way that eats bandwith without even being "core business" for the site, fair enough for them using the technical sections as it means that PF is effectively a free technical resource for all sponsored by its members but I see utterly no reason at all for it to need to be a free teen chat website paid for by the members.

It would solve ALL the server issues overnight I suspect!
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Originally Posted by Redkop
Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
Jay

This is only my opinion , but if you look at who is a mod on this site and look how oftern you actually see 90% of them on here i feel this is the problem
Im not saying these people are bad people im just saying isnt it time the mods were updated to more active users , this way the board will be run better as the more active mods will move posts ets as required instead of leaving all the work to just 3/4 people who then get called names as they are seen as hilters as its only them doing anything

I obviously dont have all the facts and figures to back up what im saying , its just my observation , so i could be completly wrong , but i do seem to only see 3/4 mods on here at regular times ,

there was a big change of mods a while back that seemed to go down well with the users , so isnt it time for another
I have to agree with the above Paul.... it would be easy enough for Pet [or Stu if he still has Admin access] to check up in Admin CP to see the most active Mods and ones that just like having a Mod tag under their name.
Agreed, there seems to be loads of mods (popeye is the first one who spring to mind) that barely use the site, let alone do any moderating, so why bother to have the security risk of more priviledged accounts than is needed?
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by UnseenMenace
What I do not understand is why General Discussion and the Muppet room are not kept only for Gold Members.
I would have thought that giving people who support the site a little more freedom would be justified while those who do not support the site get use of the knowledge and vehicle threads which should be the basis of this forum imho
Agreed, the sections of the site which are most used for wasting the bandwidth and CPU time of the server should be reserved for those people paying towards those things.

I see NO reason at all to allow non contributors to participate in the site in a way that eats bandwith without even being "core business" for the site, fair enough for them using the technical sections as it means that PF is effectively a free technical resource for all sponsored by its members but I see utterly no reason at all for it to need to be a free teen chat website paid for by the members.

It would solve ALL the server issues overnight I suspect!
A valid point that ive been considering for a long time now...
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by Redkop
Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
Jay

This is only my opinion , but if you look at who is a mod on this site and look how oftern you actually see 90% of them on here i feel this is the problem
Im not saying these people are bad people im just saying isnt it time the mods were updated to more active users , this way the board will be run better as the more active mods will move posts ets as required instead of leaving all the work to just 3/4 people who then get called names as they are seen as hilters as its only them doing anything

I obviously dont have all the facts and figures to back up what im saying , its just my observation , so i could be completly wrong , but i do seem to only see 3/4 mods on here at regular times ,

there was a big change of mods a while back that seemed to go down well with the users , so isnt it time for another
I have to agree with the above Paul.... it would be easy enough for Pet [or Stu if he still has Admin access] to check up in Admin CP to see the most active Mods and ones that just like having a Mod tag under their name.
Agreed, there seems to be loads of mods (popeye is the first one who spring to mind) that barely use the site, let alone do any moderating, so why bother to have the security risk of more priviledged accounts than is needed?
The moderator cull plan is allready in place, so no need to discuss this one any further as its allready been agreed upon.
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Ok mate
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So to clarify, we think that:

1) Quite a few rooms can be almalgamated together.

2) Some rooms can be removed totally.

3) The mod team can be culled of mods who arent here often, with maybe some new introduced.

3) Muppet room can be gold members viewing only.

4) GD also could maybe be gold members POSTING only.

5) Search function obviosly needs fixing. As does the 7-11 access problems. We have a beta PF running that may fix this, but tasta nother story, but its not relevant here in this discussion.

Anything else?
What do you lot currently think of the trade names situation? (Gotta keep simon happy... )

And signatures?
Old 19-11-2007, 10:37 AM
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prices must be put in the parts & cars for sale cos i hate seeing 'offers' as £10 for an rs 500 often offends
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
So to clarify, we think that:

1) Quite a few rooms can be almalgamated together.

2) Some rooms can be removed totally.

3) The mod team can be culled of mods who arent here often, with maybe some new introduced.

3) Muppet room can be gold members viewing only.

4) GD also could maybe be gold members POSTING only.

5) Search function obviosly needs fixing. As does the 7-11 access problems. We have a beta PF running that may fix this, but tasta nother story, but its not relevant here in this discussion.

Anything else?
What do you lot currently think of the trade names situation? (Gotta keep simon happy... )

And signatures?
Sounds like a plan

How about if your a gold member you can have any name you wish.. regardless of it actually being a trade name? only exception is you can't have a trade sig unless your a trader?

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I think the trade names situation is now resolved, I felt it was very unfair on people like SECS and turbosystems who had always had those names since before the rules were introduced, but I think that stopping new users joining up with tradenames is no problem for them as no one knows them by that name yet anyway.
So I think that NO changes are required now on the trade names front.

The points you listed all sound great to me.
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
So to clarify, we think that:

1) Quite a few rooms can be almalgamated together.


Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
2) Some rooms can be removed totally.
dependant on traffic volume and being mixed into other rooms i can't see why not, so another

Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
3) The mod team can be culled of mods who arent here often, with maybe some new introduced.
limit being a mod for a year, then contiune afterwards if things are going well or terminate if things aren't going so well

Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
3) Muppet room can be gold members viewing only.
so you can't post there if you are a gold member?

Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
4) GD also could maybe be gold members POSTING only.
i can se this is going to cause more than a few problems, but if the majority decision is that, then i think i'll be able to live with it

Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Anything else?
have a techy section specificly for posting problems about the site, and sticky it in the probalems forum
that way you have a voting style button and you click on what the problems you've had and then someone does some boffining to work out if it's an isolated incident or part of another problem or not that serious a problem
and, at the end of the week, you can put up a list of what problems were fixed and how, all i nthe same section
no posts, just a little chart and all archived in the same post so you can see a pattern forming if the same peole are having the same problems etc etc

Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
What do you lot currently think of the trade names situation? (Gotta keep simon happy... )
trade names give it a more professional look, so keep them
at least you can say that all traders are actually vetted in some way shape or form before they get trader status on here and that can only be a good thing

Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
And signatures?
as they are, pics are fine and i know i've got a long bit of text but you can always turn sigs off so i don't see the problem


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