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Old 12-11-2007 | 07:00 AM
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Found this on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1987-Ford-cosw...QQcmdZViewItem

The car is nothing to do with me before the mods delete this thread

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Old 12-11-2007 | 07:06 AM
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i bet paul nyrs is already on his way there
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i bet paul nyrs is already on his way there
I should as well for that price , but it is only the starting price.

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Old 12-11-2007 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by fordsportjay
i bet paul nyrs is already on his way there
I have e mailed him

Why oh why dont people put a contact number on an advert
Old 12-11-2007 | 07:32 AM
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Looks to have been rebuilt into a Motorsport shell as I cannot see any tow eyes or sunroof.

Nice track project though
Old 12-11-2007 | 07:34 AM
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Paul, How many 500's have you broken up ?
Old 12-11-2007 | 07:35 AM
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theres a number in the ad if you read through it mate

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Old 12-11-2007 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
Originally Posted by fordsportjay
i bet paul nyrs is already on his way there
I have e mailed him

Why oh why dont people put a contact number on an advert
there is a number
Old 12-11-2007 | 09:56 AM
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wonder what it will go to.

wonder what a re-shelled rs500 would make,thats if it is re-shelled.
Old 12-11-2007 | 10:03 AM
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Tbf thought if its been reshelled into a 1.6 its not a 500 is it lol
Old 12-11-2007 | 10:06 AM
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Tbf thought if its been reshelled into a 1.6 its not a 500 is it lol
it could have been done properly into a new shell at some point,then that will be a different thing.

just won't be worth as much as a car thats not been shelled.
Old 12-11-2007 | 10:09 AM
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but it has no sunroof
Old 12-11-2007 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Alps Pacino
but it has no sunroof
so....lol...motorsport shell.

you could put a roof skin on it with a roof if you wanted to.
Old 12-11-2007 | 10:24 AM
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Ye thats my point though its not a PROPER 500, its just a boggo sierra with 500 bits lol
Old 12-11-2007 | 10:31 AM
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Ye thats my point though its not a PROPER 500, its just a boggo sierra with 500 bits lol
so what you are saying is the every car which gets re-shelled are not proper cars,even thought they have all been done the correct way etc...

they are proper cars imo, but just not worth as much because of the re-shell.

Old 12-11-2007 | 10:46 AM
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just to clarify I am only going off the photos shown on the ebay ad, so dont assume its had a shell change, may just be the light or the angles in which the pics were taken.

It would need a viewing to confirm.

edited to say its still a 10k plus car regardless of any changes, and the ad says its still on its original 500 ID which is the important part
Old 12-11-2007 | 10:51 AM
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a.k.a

we won't blame you Paul if it has not been re-shelled.
Old 12-11-2007 | 11:23 AM
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Spoke to the owner it does have a sunroof...
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Spoke to the owner it does have a sunroof...
well thats this thread fooked now then.

Old 12-11-2007 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ross_x
Spoke to the owner it does have a sunroof...
there you go then - never believe anything you read on the net - still cannot see any tow eyes though, I must need glasses
Old 12-11-2007 | 04:30 PM
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Old 12-11-2007 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by gingeRS
Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
Originally Posted by fordsportjay
i bet paul nyrs is already on his way there
I have e mailed him

Why oh why dont people put a contact number on an advert
there is a number
Old 12-11-2007 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
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Ye thats my point though its not a PROPER 500, its just a boggo sierra with 500 bits lol
so what you are saying is the every car which gets re-shelled are not proper cars,even thought they have all been done the correct way etc...

they are proper cars imo, but just not worth as much because of the re-shell.

No what i was saying is that if you reshelled a 500 into a genuine 3 door shell would that make it a genuine reshelled 500 or would it make it a 3 door with all the 500 bits

I see what your saying but imo if it didnt leave the factory as a 500 it will never be 1 UNLESS for some reason a genuine 500 shell was sourced and was built up using all proper 500 bits.

Who cares anyway its only an old sierra lol
Old 12-11-2007 | 04:52 PM
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lol,

if you re-shelled it using a 3 door cossie shell then yes,it would be just a 3 door.

but....if you used a brand new shell then it would become an rs500 again as you would restamp the numbers into it..only if its a brand new shell.

ok,its a re-shelled rs500, so it would be worth less than a normal one.

Old 12-11-2007 | 04:54 PM
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all the road RS500s started life as standard 3drs, therefore a 3dr shell and RS500 one are exactly the same.

The problem is that the 3dr came right at the end of the Mk1 sierra production run so not enough spare shells were made and the stock was quickly used up due to the high theft/damage rate

Ford by now were well into Mk2 sierra production so could not go back in time and build exactly the same shells, therefore when they made a new batch in 1989 they had to use a number of mk2 panels which is why to the trained eye you can see the difference between a 1986 production shell and a 1989 replacement one

So unless a 3dr/RS500 was reshelled very early in its life it will have a 1989 spec replacement shell which can be spotted easily enough without ever looking at the chassis number.


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Ye thats my point though its not a PROPER 500, its just a boggo sierra with 500 bits lol
so what you are saying is the every car which gets re-shelled are not proper cars,even thought they have all been done the correct way etc...

they are proper cars imo, but just not worth as much because of the re-shell.

No what i was saying is that if you reshelled a 500 into a genuine 3 door shell would that make it a genuine reshelled 500 or would it make it a 3 door with all the 500 bits

I see what your saying but imo if it didnt leave the factory as a 500 it will never be 1 UNLESS for some reason a genuine 500 shell was sourced and was built up using all proper 500 bits.

Who cares anyway its only an old sierra lol
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but werent the 500 shells different from the normal 3 door sierra shells?

If so then it will never be the same even with the floor numbers the same cause the shell aint the same ths not making it a 500 even if the numbers say it is.
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spill the beans then Paul...whats the difference in then.
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Originally Posted by Alps Pacino
but werent the 500 shells different from the normal 3 door sierra shells?

If so then it will never be the same even with the floor numbers the same cause the shell aint the same ths not making it a 500 even if the numbers say it is.
500's are only a batch of 3 doors,so all the same.
Old 12-11-2007 | 05:00 PM
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i thought the battery tray was different? and other bits that i cant remember off the top of my head as i'm not that sad
Old 12-11-2007 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
spill the beans then Paul...whats the difference in then.
I listed a lot of them ages ago on a thread but cannot find it

So of the top of my head here are some of them:-

different bulkhead where the fusebox goes in the 1989 ones - so a Mk 1 fuesbox does not sit properly in the 1989 mk2 hole

Courtesy light in the boot is larger mk 2 version in the replacement ones

no hole for the rear aerial

The rear tow eye sits much lower on an extended bracket for the 1989 replacements

The 1986 motorsport versions (no sunroof) were to group N spec so had most of the standard bracketry fitted, where as the 1989 motorsport ones were to the lighter group A spec so were basically panels welded together with loads of brackets, tow eyes etc supplied in a seperate bag to be added as required.

Lots of other little differences but cannot remember them all at the moment, but the above are the key ones
Old 12-11-2007 | 05:16 PM
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have to remember them for future reference.

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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
Originally Posted by gingeRS
Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
Originally Posted by fordsportjay
i bet paul nyrs is already on his way there
I have e mailed him

Why oh why dont people put a contact number on an advert
there is a number
pauls got phoneophobia and was scared to ring did u txt hm nsted m8
Old 12-11-2007 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by a.k.a
no hole for the rear aerial

500's do have rear ariels, the difference between a 500 ariel and a 3door ariel is that when you open the boot with the ariel up on a 500 it automatically goes down so it clears the larger spoiler when the boot lid is up!
Old 12-11-2007 | 06:01 PM
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So whats the motor then.. an 500 or just a 3dr?
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I think you misread my reply, the list I put up is the difference between production shells and 1989 replacement one, not the difference between 3drs and RS500s

Originally Posted by vroooom ptssssh
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no hole for the rear aerial

500's do have rear ariels, the difference between a 500 ariel and a 3door ariel is that when you open the boot with the ariel up on a 500 it automatically goes down so it clears the larger spoiler when the boot lid is up!
Old 12-11-2007 | 06:39 PM
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judging by how close these are and the typing in caps may be the same person?

https://passionford.com/forum/profil...rofile&u=40720

why not ask?
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good detective work Lennie.

i remember that person putting a post up about it cutting out when you rev it,it says that in the advert too.
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