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Old 17-10-2007, 09:47 PM
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Default Anyone had a Mk2 Golf Gti 8v or 16v

Trawling the net trying to find one to strip out & use as a track toy as they seem quite cheap & more available than a 205 Gti. The 16v seems more expensive is their much difference in performance between 8v & 16v, so is it worth paying a few hundred quid more for a 16valve ?

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I had an 8v and they are awesome cars

16v is a good bit faster but ALOT rarer
Old 18-10-2007, 06:34 PM
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bought my 16v mk2 for 40quid

engine and interior was mint but shell was crap :wall

sold it for 200quid few weeks later when the gearbox made odd noises
Old 18-10-2007, 06:39 PM
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205 that hard to get? surely have more fun with that on track than a golf? easy MI 16v conversion and you're away!
Old 18-10-2007, 06:39 PM
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i had a mk 8v last year,have to say one of the best cars ive ever owned,so fun to drive,wasnt too far off my mates 16v either
Old 19-10-2007, 03:45 PM
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I had a K jet 8v a few years ago and loved it to drive was on jamex springs and shocks, K&N filter, Scorpion ss system and VR6 front brakes
I got it from a breakers yard for Ł400 as a non runner and got Ł750 for it a year later

I fancy a 16v for every day/trackday use after xmas

Check out Octobers PPC magazine as its got a mk2 tuning guide too
Old 19-10-2007, 04:39 PM
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Ive had 2 8v MK2 s

Really good fun , but can be a bit heavy , ive never driven a 16v one but ive always heard good things , just look at how many germans use them at the ring

the 205s seem to have a bit of a premium on them at the moment , people seem to buy shitters rip the interior out and call them track prepped and stuff Ł500 on the price

Hey kev is Golfnutz still over northwich way ?
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Best bet would to get a Mk1 with a 16v in, awesome cars.

I have had 2 8v's and a 16v, all i would say is the 16v will be better on track but for a car to use around the town and country lanes i prefered the 8v.

Thats just me though
Old 20-10-2007, 02:00 AM
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I bought a 16v Mk2 a few weeks ago.... might have a go with it on track then swap it or punt it. Always liked 'em but really don't need a 4th car right now

So the verdict is they're pretty decent on track?



Still to refit the kit, give it a good tidy and T&T it......
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Its purely for a track car only, been there and done the 3dr Cossie track car thing & it got a bit expensive as i don't have the money or time to do more than 4 or 5 trackdays a year & it just sat about & was too much money sitting in the garage. I've got one of the newer 2003 onwards V70R volvo's which is the wife's car,got rid of the 3dr & bought a 1998 S plate estoril M3 Evo coupe which sits in the garage but if we want to use it instead of the Volvo sometimes its useable unlike the 3dr was,she wouldn't drive the 3dr ! So now looking for a 16v but they seem to be a bit more than 8v, their is a D plate one on ebay not far from me with a few hrs to go at Ł700 at the moment. Problem with the 205's is they are more expensive & i don't think the running gear/engine will be as strong as a Golf, plus i want car that owes me no more than Ł1500 when fully completed stripped out with seat, R888 rubber,G60 brakes,not sure on suspension but nothing fancy, i only live a few miles from Lyddon race circuit & 30 mins from Brands also so just something for a bit of fun which doesn't matter if it gets a few dings ! What do you think i should be paying for a 16v with a good engine/box but scruffy body ?



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Old 25-10-2007, 08:18 AM
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Not sure Stu if golfnutz is still open mate i know it moved to a old bus/coach depot near to Winsford !

Simonc ive seen a few on Ebay lately cheap Ł500 pound ish
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I had an 8v and I absolutely loved it. The 16v is a nicer drive but you need to rev it harder to get it to go fast. Its power is further up the rev range.

Any chance to post a pic of what was possibly my favourite owned car of all time



Cheers

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Old 25-10-2007, 10:28 AM
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Had a 8v for 1 and a half year, nice car ! The 16V with KR engine is way faster (140bhp) but just behind a G60 (160bhp but heavier).

Strong cars and very nice looking :



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Originally Posted by collierm
I had an 8v and I absolutely loved it. The 16v is a nicer drive but you need to rev it harder to get it to go fast. Its power is further up the rev range.

Any chance to post a pic of what was possibly my favourite owned car of all time



Cheers

Matt
thats real nice, i remember a guy near me used to have a flip painted big bumper GTI when i was a teen, i used to drool over it
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I had a 16v, the heater matrix popped after id had it for about an hour. Was proper giving it some abuse and then steam started coming into the car and the floor was soaking lol. Apparantly a common fault and it should have been racalled and had newer type of matrx fitted, which it hadnt been.

I ended up just putting a bit of pipe in to take the heat marix out of circualtion to get me by.

Was quite surprised how quick it was. Handled well aswell even though it was quite boaty.

Had it about a 2 weeks in total before it was in an accident.



Old 25-10-2007, 10:44 AM
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Ive got a mk2 16v at present, bought as the missus wanted one and this one was cheap!
Am extremely impressed how fast a 139bhp car can go!
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Originally Posted by gingeRS
Originally Posted by collierm
I had an 8v and I absolutely loved it. The 16v is a nicer drive but you need to rev it harder to get it to go fast. Its power is further up the rev range.

Any chance to post a pic of what was possibly my favourite owned car of all time



Cheers

Matt
thats real nice, i remember a guy near me used to have a flip painted big bumper GTI when i was a teen, i used to drool over it
Very nice. I just remembered what happened to my car. When I sold it to a guy in Slough (big mistake), I got notification about 8 months later he'd written it off. Pissed me off no end

EDIT - I'm now searching Pistonheads and Autotrader for another one
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Bit of an old thread that i started 5 yrs ago !

Well i ended up buying a Mk2 Golf gti 16v back in August 2009 for Ł348 from e bay, drove it back home 140 mile journey and it dumped all of its coolant when i got home. It was a bit neglected but the body and engine were sound.
Fitted these parts over the last 3 yrs:

Fitted 6 point cage,koni coilovers,bucket seat,harness,Mk3 hubs and 280mm brakes with yellow stuff pads,bigger master cylinder, bought 8 G60 corrado alloys, 4 have R888's and other 4 have road tyres,Mk3 21.5mm front antiroll bar, poly bushed everything including rear beam,welded seams on lower wishbones,stripped interior,momo steering wheel, mocal oil cooler,baffled sump and diesel windage tray, 4 branch manifold,vibratechnics engine mounts,magnex exhaust.

Headgasket started leaking in July 2011 at Lydden trackday,blew a hose as was pressureizing,bodged it up to get it home and the car stood for 11 months except taking it for an MOT in May2012.
I had bought myself a abf 2.0 bottom end the year before and sourced a KR ported head along the way, anyway built the engine up myself on a stand, incl lightened flywheel and modded exh cam in place of inlet cam.
Did a couple of sessions at Lydden a few ago with the new engine and it feels a lot better with the modded 2.0 16v lump. Its going on the rollers this Friday to mod the warm up regulator to get better fueling at top end as its still running the standard old Kjet setup.

Anyone thinking of getting a Mk2 Golf for trackdays do it, must be one of the cheapest cars to mod and good fun to !







Simon.
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16v, big bumper, 3 door, oak bay green, bbs wheels... the one to have. Sold it after a year as it really didnt live up to it if I am honest. I had a standard RS Turbo before this and it was hands and feet over a better car
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Originally Posted by booner999


16v, big bumper, 3 door, oak bay green, bbs wheels... the one to have. Sold it after a year as it really didnt live up to it if I am honest. I had a standard RS Turbo before this and it was hands and feet over a better car
Nice looking gti and in the best colour.

I am talking about track cars though (on a budget), no way could i drive a noisey old Golf for a road car ! I have an E39 M5 as a second car and that feels old compared with the wifes V70 R design.
Old 22-10-2012, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by simonc
Nice looking gti and in the best colour.

I am talking about track cars though (on a budget), no way could i drive a noisey old Golf for a road car ! I have an E39 M5 as a second car and that feels old compared with the wifes V70 R design.
I am sure our one spends most of its time on track now. It had a strong rust free shell which is rare.

I will be honest, I thought the engine was lacking in grunt, didnt really get any better if you reved it hard etc... one thing I will say about it, she had powersteering, abs etc and drove like a modern car. But it never really lit my fire. It was the Mrs car as she had them years ago. I wanted to put a S3 lump in her, make it 4x4 or RWD and enjoy it that wayu but keeping the standard looks. Ours was on standard suspension and was very rolly polley but I expect a good set of coilovers will solve that one
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have owned 2 mk3s 8v & 16v if they count and both were good reliable cars tbh its just im not into vws
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I also have the same problem, thank you guys.

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This is exactly what I want to know .

Old 22-10-2012, 10:01 AM
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I bought kitchen devils mk3 8v

Second I've owned

Soon to fit a 20v turbo and going for around 200 bhp nice useable power
Will take it on tack as well when finished
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Enjoyed all my mk2's,2x 8v's and a 16v.
Gone now that they need a 2.0l 16v minimum conversion but they are a great car then,stood the test of time well.
As standard would make a good reliable daily but agree with booner999 that as standard their pretty disappointing,they werent all that back in the 80's,an Astra 16v could waste one all over the road but to give the vw some credit they will still be going pretty much ok after many hundreds of thousands of miles more than an rs turbo plus generally rust less.

A 20v conversion on one I think makes them an awesome machine,still a pretty looking car after all this time.

Loved my mk1 too and still have a cabby gti that will get an engine transplant as the body is all done and looking lovely .....








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My home built 2.0 16v made 170.5bhp @ 6697rpm at Stealth Racing on Friday, very pleased indeed
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Default 8v or 16v????"??

Hi

I have owned 3 8v previously and currently own a 16v.

The 8 valvers are fantastic cars but to be honest the 16v is so much more fun

My 16v has done 139k and still pulls like an absolute train, but you have to rev it a lot more than the 8v to get it really shifting

Off the mark there isn't much difference it is more towards the top end that the 16v comes into its own.
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I've had 3

My best one was my ED1 in aubergine purple this was an 8v import



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Then had a 16v atlas grey lol

Car had so many problems with it


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And the mintest of them all my 16v Oaky this car was like brand new!!



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With my RS



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I prefer the 16v but the 8v is more revvy. Would like to own one with a VR as the 16v and the 8v are just slow now!
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RS still looks so much cooler than the Golf imo
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Originally Posted by CossieRich
RS still looks so much cooler than the Golf imo
Exactly what I say! RS pisses on the Golf imo as well!
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Originally Posted by CossieRich
RS still looks so much cooler than the Golf imo
I hate to say it, but the Golf looks a lot classier than the RS. I've got a soft spot for the Mk2 as I had an 8V GTi that was one of the best cars I've ever owned.
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isnt the 8v and 16v geared differently?

I had a mk2 G plate 16v golf in Tornado Red, and its one of the best cars i've ever owned - it was one of the few cars i'd buy back. wish i never sold it to be honest , 2 owner car and only had 65k on the clock
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I had a 16v mk3 before(2.0 150bhp) and I wasn't impressed at all. At the time my mates 115bhp civic could keep up with it

I know we're talking about mk2's which are lighter though(I think), never owned one though, bit too old for a daily for me
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