Daviet

just wondered if anyone on here has any knowledge of these or has ever built one.wasn't sure how hard it would be to do and if it would be worth while or not?
remember seeing one on knockhill and seemed to go very well
just seen you can get m3 non evo engine and boxes fairly cheap and compacts are cheap as fook.
I'm guessing it would probably be better just to buy the m3 but thought it could make a good fun car

Jim Galbally

they didnt make them as standard. but it's not an uncommon conversion.

they drop stright in, so it's no big deal

Rab

Why????


The M3 Coupe looks like sex. The 3 Series Compact looks like a dog turd with wheels?

Jim Galbally

well i wasn't gonna say anything rab...

Chip

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All bolts straight in im sure.

Is the compact lighter?

Jim Galbally

probably, a sheman tank's lighter than an M3

Rab

It needed to be said. It would be fast, but look pish.

xr2i-carl

i think all compacts look shite

just an e36 which has been smashe dup the arse

Daviet

to me they just look the same just a little smaller.
and the fact you can get m3 running gear for about a grand and even less for the car thought could make a cheap fun track car.that hopefully wouldnt blow up lol.the one at knockhill was certainly quicker than a normal m3

Chip

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What are you calling "running gear" ?

Cause to make it worthwhile I would want to be transplanting
engine (+loom etc)
box
suspension
brakes

kev 3dr

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Ive seen a rally compact somewhere running m3 running gear that was pretty cool looking all white on MO's

Daviet

well i was just thinking ive seen smashed m3's for roughly 1500 maybe were the car would still drive.maybe in a crab like fashion but was still running therefor i classed that as the running gear lol.ie diff,gearbox,engine etc.tbh the reason im asking on here was im not sure what would all be needed.wasnt sure if it would just be engine and box

Chip

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Thing is, you can get a complete working M3 for 4K, so you need to make sure it comes in under that really to be worth doing IMHO

(says the bloke with a 1.6 shell with cossie gear that cost twice as much as buyign a cossie, so ignore me, lol)

Daviet

supose.
so if i just got an engine and box and swapped it over would it run
if it would i think it could be done pretty cheap.but if you then needed to spend thousands getting things adapted etc it wouldnt be worth while obvously.
i only asked on here as someone may have done it before

Jim Galbally

1k for m3 runnnig gear!!!!! where!?!?!?!

Daviet

i said about,,,
http://edinburgh.gumtree.com/edinburgh/57/12179557.html
guy said he would have took just over a grand.
but theres alot more out there.jst dont pay london prices

Chip

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For it to run you just need the engine and loom and ascociated wiring (including ignition barrel I expect for the immobiliser), but sod having over 300bhp on standard comact brakes etc as a track car.

Daviet

but would you want to keep the standard m3 brakes if was used as a track car
ive not driven one on track but drove a 325i compact on road before and brakes were excellent.10 times better than my shonky sapph
its probably wouldnt be worth it unless got an m3 for much much cheapness.

Graceland

You have to bear in mind that the compact shares the same chassis as the belated E30 - hence the E30 boys doing 5 stud conversions often use the compact back axle and front hubs etc etc

Charlie Chalk

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Jim aint from London

Phil

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I've noticed a it seems a lot of circuits/driving schools seem to use the compacts with bigger engines fitted. Thought they may have a shorter wheelbase?

slicktimmy

there was one on ebay last week, dark blue compact with a 3.0 engine

Mike1

Is your Sapphire a 2wd? If a 325ti's brakes were ten times better ( at the same speeds ) your Sapphire brakes need overhauling - they're excellent brakes for a 200bhp car

Anyway have a look on www.compactm3cup.co.uk or www.328compact.co.uk

Daviet

cheers mate for the links yeah they brakes maybe are ok for a 200bhp car but when folk up the power they should up the brakes first imo.they just didn't on mine lol its just had new disks and pads all round on mine and are in full working order.as i said i didn't use the bm really in anger just a few shots and felt alot more sharp and responsive than the sapph maybe from high speeds and prolonged use its maybe different?
and radders kent is near enough its fooking miles south from here still obvously a place with to much money

Mr Brannen

My mates got one, in that Magenta looking colour,FULL M3 gear with brakes loom engine and 6spd box,its an absolute flying machine,very fast car,and is twice as fast as a normal 3.2 Evo,we know cause weve tried

Jim Galbally

TWICE as fast?

Mike1

Std 325ti brakes might be fine for a couple of high speed stops for a 190bhp car but Sapphire 2wd brakes are a better system for that sort of power believe me.

It's probably that your system has aged over the yearsand needs refurbing.
When the Sapphires came out they were highly praised amongst their contemporaries for the brakes.

BMW have never quite mastered great brakes....look at the CSL

Stavros

bloodyhell, a 323TI compact is 200kg lighter than an M3!

didnt expect them to be that much different.

a stripped compact with M3 Evo running must be a fucking weapon

Rab

310mph max speed and 3.2 seconds to 60! Awesome! Puts that overpriced bugatti shite to shame

Mr Brannen

Figure of speach Jimmy
As said above,compact feels a lot lighter,there deffo faster than a normal M3,simple as that

fuzzy

theres a blue compact that goes around in westlothian with an m3 evo engine fitted(321bhp). the guy owns a little bmw specialist garage between bathgate and dechmont. looks standard apart from the 4 tailpies poking out the back. i can look out his number if you want to talk to him.
he also has a ford flatbed truck with the e36 2.8 6 pot fitted.

Daviet

that would be great if you dont mind mate
just a stupid idea in my head just now but you never know and would be handy if someone nearby knows what there doing.aslong as they aint a sister company of ace
been watching vids of them on youtube when i was bored and they sound fooking nuts

fuzzy

ill drive past tomorrow and get his number. i wouldnt even mention anything to do with the clowns at ace to my worst enemy

xr2i-carl

twice as fast?? what 310mph

MadMac

I actually like the look of them

Daviet

cheers mate
i was taking the piss about the ace comment i know they aint your favourite garage id hope you wouldnt recomend anyway to someone like them lol i wouldnt even recomend them to a hibs fan

Daviet

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me too for some reason lol and tbh the normal m3 e36 just looks like every other 325 or 328 going about
plus the sleeper fact
think this looks pretty good tbh

fuzzy

its ok mate i realised that although i think you may have taken it to far. i know i said my worst enemy but a hibs fan is lower than that
your not a fellow jambo are you?

Daviet

of course i am mate although aint alot to shout about yet

Jim Galbally

they look good from the front...