banhambuilt

need abit of advise really.
been thinking about this for a while,what is the best allround engine.
covering reliability,power,cost to mod,part prices,etc

i know the zetec comes in silver and black top,is 1 better than the other?
duretec,2.0l against the 2.5l v6

only really concerned with 2.0l or above

thanks guys

matt p

Get a 2.3 duratec mate

I know of one that made 280bhp on 52mm TB's and few other mods, went like the clappers.

Its been bored to a 2.5 now and having some bigger tb's fitted will be aiming for a solid 300bhp+

smitsturbo

duratec all the way

check ian howells duratec focus on the area six website below my sig

Markb_s1

i'd say duratec too.

banhambuilt

so what would i find a 2.3 duratec in then? haven`t a jar of glue what they are fitted too

are they better than the v6 duratec`s

thanks for advise guys

dave

smitsturbo

i think theres a mazda you can get the duratec in, im sure it was stavros that told me

matt p

Yeah same engine thats in the mazda 6 MPS,

It went staright in the fiesta ST easily enough

Have a look in the projects section mate under JAMSPORTS 2.5 fiesta ST.

st_owner100

The Jamsport 2.5 is a beast. I'd suggest the 2.3L Duratec over any zetec as well. People who make the conversion for their Fiesta usually get them from the Ford Ranger, I do beleive.

banhambuilt

are the 2.3`s easy to get hold of,and what is the cost involved?

i can see a plan forming

dave

Wardy257

Up to 200 bhp ZETEC
Over 200 bhp DURATEC

Judging overall (costs, ease of fitting, reliability etc)

rst in breaking

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is there any pistons out of a duratec or something to bring the 2.3 to a 2.5? cheers

fezzajsy

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duratec..but there are some mental zetecs out there too

Ginge !

stop fucking about,,, viper engine

mazda engines a good idea,, but then you need to buy the parts for em,,, and mazdas parts cataloge looks like rally designs first website

seriously its shite

RichieST

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the 2.0 duratec in the fiesta ST is the same as whats in the mk3 mondeo (if your looking for one).

Pretty sure they are a mazda engine and not a ford engine.

Rich

anodised

i think you can get a 2.0 duratec from any 2001 mondeo or focus

the 2.3 comes from a mazda 6 mps or a ranger or the usa

i seen one on ebay before

the 2.0 duratec is the mazda z engine

Ginge !

sorry mate but there ALL ford engines,,,,, as mazda OWN ford

hence why i used to sell ford parts AND mazda parts

the ranger IS a mazda too

anodised

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Du...ine#Duratec_20

Ginge !

its still a ford engine though,,, hence it was used in the states focus though NO VVT

ford/mazda are the same company just like landrover v6 diesel is also a jag v6 diesel engine

as i said,,, i worked at ford and i worked as a partsman for mazda AND ford in the SAME parts department

also was offered to go portugal for the MPS launch,, though i think i was asked as they KNEW i couldnt make it

neilm

Depends on what motor you are going to put it in and if you are going FWD or RWD.


The Zetec uses the same bellhousing bolt pattern Ford have used since 1959.. in fact you can bolt an Anglia bellhousing straight up to a Zetec.

You cant do this with a Duratec which means if you were thinking of using a FWD gearbox from something like an ST170 you'd be screwed as they dont mate up.

Like I said, depends on what you are doing FWD or RWD

rst in breaking

iTrader: (2)

useful to know

neilm

The other one to watch is the ST170 Focus has Duratec on the cam cover but its actually a Zetec, the same for the Focus Arse I believe.

Badged Duratec but actually Zetec

banhambuilt

i have a new plan of attack with the rs200,going rear engined
so i need an engine that i can get about 170+bhp from and be reliable,would love to go duratec,but by the sounds of it,it will be expensive to convert onto a fwd box.

so in the zetec range i would go for a 2.0l,but which is better? (silver or black top)

thanks for the input guys

dave

buzznwood

You shouldn't have a problem with the gearbox and the duratec as it has been used for various ford cars the past few years now, the required bell housings are out there for the v6 and I4 engines.

The V6 has been in use longer than the I4 so it may be easier to go down that route and use the 3.0 version out of a st220 for example, but you really want one from a jag as it has a better head. There is also a newer 3.5 and 3.7 version of the V6 but I don't think that has made its way into any cars over in europe yet.

If you want to go down the I4 route then the 2.3 duratec is a much better choice over the zetec as the head flows more, it doesn't take much to get 100bhp per litre out of it. Plus you can get plenty of cosworth goodies for the duratec.