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Has anyone got an idea what this is worth?
And whats the 909 part mean
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And whats the 909 part mean
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Originally Posted by davemark
Has anyone got an idea what this is worth?
And whats the 909 part mean
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sierra-3-Door-...QQcmdZViewItem
And whats the 909 part mean
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Originally Posted by bigchez
what's the difference in this and a normal 3 door shell?
Suspension pick up points like the rs500?
(sorry i have no idea!! )![Red Faced](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif)
Suspension pick up points like the rs500?
(sorry i have no idea!! )
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"double the price"
i have had a look and have seen 1 for sale for 3000 euros its a
gpa rs500 unused shell in primer, hope this helps
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Originally Posted by cozzfather
Originally Posted by bigchez
what's the difference in this and a normal 3 door shell?
Suspension pick up points like the rs500?
(sorry i have no idea!! )![Red Faced](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif)
Suspension pick up points like the rs500?
(sorry i have no idea!! )
![Red Faced](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif)
"double the price"
i have had a look and have seen 1 for sale for 3000 euros its a
gpa rs500 unused shell in primer, hope this helps
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A gp A shell yes , but not a grp A rs500 shell
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I love the way everything thats 3 door people say is rs500 because they think it will be worth more
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Thats a bit of an unusual shell - not the ones you normally see
Most of the new motorsport shells that crop up on ebay etc are usually the ones built in 1989 which came out of Ford to group A spec with lots of brackets etc not fitted (they came in a seperate bag of bits)
This shell though is either a road shell which has had a solid roof skin fitted, or is a group A one which has had all the brackets welded back on - things like rear spring supports, front tow hitch, internal carpet supports etc
Or its a rare original motorsport shell from the 1986 batch which only came out of Fords to group N spec so all the brackets came pre welded on. These were quickly used up which is why Ford built the new batch in 1989
The big difference between 1986 spec shells and 1989 ones is that the 89 ones used a lot of saff parts.
Its also had a coat of grey primer added, as the shells came out of Ford in a grey enamel type coating not a flat grey primer - you usually see lots of masking tapes remnants as well where the closures have been held in
Price wise, new motorsport shells have normally been about £500 cheaper than road shells, going rate for a road shell is around £1500 to £2000 with closures and motorsport are £1000 to £1500 with closures so a good few hundred quid less as a bare shell only
With the growing popularity for track days though a motorsport shell is the best to start with as its free of seam sealer and underseal so easier to prep for strengthening
I would say in time the motorsport shells will be worth more than road shells but there are enough around that 2k is probably the highest they will go for ( and not the 4.5k Simpsons want for there last road one)
Hope that helps
Most of the new motorsport shells that crop up on ebay etc are usually the ones built in 1989 which came out of Ford to group A spec with lots of brackets etc not fitted (they came in a seperate bag of bits)
This shell though is either a road shell which has had a solid roof skin fitted, or is a group A one which has had all the brackets welded back on - things like rear spring supports, front tow hitch, internal carpet supports etc
Or its a rare original motorsport shell from the 1986 batch which only came out of Fords to group N spec so all the brackets came pre welded on. These were quickly used up which is why Ford built the new batch in 1989
The big difference between 1986 spec shells and 1989 ones is that the 89 ones used a lot of saff parts.
Its also had a coat of grey primer added, as the shells came out of Ford in a grey enamel type coating not a flat grey primer - you usually see lots of masking tapes remnants as well where the closures have been held in
Price wise, new motorsport shells have normally been about £500 cheaper than road shells, going rate for a road shell is around £1500 to £2000 with closures and motorsport are £1000 to £1500 with closures so a good few hundred quid less as a bare shell only
With the growing popularity for track days though a motorsport shell is the best to start with as its free of seam sealer and underseal so easier to prep for strengthening
I would say in time the motorsport shells will be worth more than road shells but there are enough around that 2k is probably the highest they will go for ( and not the 4.5k Simpsons want for there last road one)
Hope that helps
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
THE 909 SHELL HAS NO SUNROOF
I sold a brand new shell with a sunroof last year , it also had brand new bonnet / boot and doors for 2k , so this isnt cheap , altho they are harder to find now![Top](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/smile011.gif)
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I sold a brand new shell with a sunroof last year , it also had brand new bonnet / boot and doors for 2k , so this isnt cheap , altho they are harder to find now
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here are FACTS
9093550 rhd sunroof
9093552 rhd compettion
9093553 lhd sunfoof
9093551 lhd compettion
Next your say they came with numbers stamped UP
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Karting you can talk -why do you always quote information you have gleaned from other people, as if its your own first hand knowledge.
You know full well you only got that part number info from the advert for the shells I posted a pic of a while ago, the original of which I still have from the Autosport magazine from 1989
We are all constantly learning from each other, why make out you know it all from day 1.
you talk bull sh-t (know facts Paul) u have a lot to lean
here are FACTS
9093550 rhd sunroof
9093552 rhd compettion
9093553 lhd sunfoof
9093551 lhd compettion
Next your say they came with numbers stamped UP
You know full well you only got that part number info from the advert for the shells I posted a pic of a while ago, the original of which I still have from the Autosport magazine from 1989
We are all constantly learning from each other, why make out you know it all from day 1.
Originally Posted by Karting
Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
THE 909 SHELL HAS NO SUNROOF
I sold a brand new shell with a sunroof last year , it also had brand new bonnet / boot and doors for 2k , so this isnt cheap , altho they are harder to find now![Top](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/smile011.gif)
![Wink](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
I sold a brand new shell with a sunroof last year , it also had brand new bonnet / boot and doors for 2k , so this isnt cheap , altho they are harder to find now
![Top](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/smile011.gif)
![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
here are FACTS
9093550 rhd sunroof
9093552 rhd compettion
9093553 lhd sunfoof
9093551 lhd compettion
Next your say they came with numbers stamped UP
![Mad](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/mad.gif)
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
Originally Posted by cozzfather
Originally Posted by bigchez
what's the difference in this and a normal 3 door shell?
Suspension pick up points like the rs500?
(sorry i have no idea!! )![Red Faced](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif)
Suspension pick up points like the rs500?
(sorry i have no idea!! )
![Red Faced](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif)
"double the price"
i have had a look and have seen 1 for sale for 3000 euros its a
gpa rs500 unused shell in primer, hope this helps
![Big Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif)
There isnt sutch a thing as a gpa RS500 shell
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A gp A shell yes , but not a grp A rs500 shell
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I love the way everything thats 3 door people say is rs500 because they think it will be worth more
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I know not everything 3 door is 500 kit!
I just didn't know what differentiated a grp a from a regular 3dr/rs500 shell.
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Originally Posted by a.k.a
You know full well you only got that part number info from the advert for the shells I posted a pic of a while ago, the original of which I still have from the Autosport magazine from 1989
Any chance you could post that pic up again mate...
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here you go
![](https://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/y2krs/shelladvert.jpg)
only the 1989 road shells had 909 numbers, the original replacement ones from 1986 would have had a v86 part number
You know full well you only got that part number info from the advert for the shells I posted a pic of a while ago, the original of which I still have from the Autosport magazine from 1989
Any chance you could post that pic up again mate...
![](https://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/y2krs/shelladvert.jpg)
only the 1989 road shells had 909 numbers, the original replacement ones from 1986 would have had a v86 part number
Originally Posted by philram
Originally Posted by a.k.a
You know full well you only got that part number info from the advert for the shells I posted a pic of a while ago, the original of which I still have from the Autosport magazine from 1989
Any chance you could post that pic up again mate...
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Originally Posted by cozzfather
the rs500 shell i have seen for sale is offered by a ford race team
who raced fords for ford, so if its not the real thing there is no hope![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
who raced fords for ford, so if its not the real thing there is no hope
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Originally Posted by gingeRS
Originally Posted by cozzfather
the rs500 shell i have seen for sale is offered by a ford race team
who raced fords for ford, so if its not the real thing there is no hope![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
who raced fords for ford, so if its not the real thing there is no hope
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WOLF raced fords for ford and still do, they are a official ford team
please don't take the piss
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Originally Posted by Karting
Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
THE 909 SHELL HAS NO SUNROOF
I sold a brand new shell with a sunroof last year , it also had brand new bonnet / boot and doors for 2k , so this isnt cheap , altho they are harder to find now![Top](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/smile011.gif)
![Wink](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
I sold a brand new shell with a sunroof last year , it also had brand new bonnet / boot and doors for 2k , so this isnt cheap , altho they are harder to find now
![Top](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/smile011.gif)
![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
here are FACTS
9093550 rhd sunroof
9093552 rhd compettion
9093553 lhd sunfoof
9093551 lhd compettion
Next your say they came with numbers stamped UP
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
The only Gen rs 500 shells are the 500 road cars
How can you possible have more than 500 , rs500 shells
all the race cars ( and it matters not who built them ) are not rs500"s , the rs500 road car was built and ALL race cars were then rebuilt to the 500 spec
How can you possible have more than 500 , rs500 shells
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all the race cars ( and it matters not who built them ) are not rs500"s , the rs500 road car was built and ALL race cars were then rebuilt to the 500 spec
lots of pockets were lined in the eighties paul.
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Originally Posted by Cosworth Rallyesport
Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
The only Gen rs 500 shells are the 500 road cars
How can you possible have more than 500 , rs500 shells
all the race cars ( and it matters not who built them ) are not rs500"s , the rs500 road car was built and ALL race cars were then rebuilt to the 500 spec
How can you possible have more than 500 , rs500 shells
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all the race cars ( and it matters not who built them ) are not rs500"s , the rs500 road car was built and ALL race cars were then rebuilt to the 500 spec
lots of pockets were lined in the eighties paul.
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But there are 500 chassis numbers that are rs500 , and it doesnt matter whos pocket you lined you cant make extra chassis numbers
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unless you cloned them
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well the way i see it, this shell i have seen for sale which i got
a
for mentioning is being offered for sale by a ford works
team who raced in the dtm in the 80's with gpa rs500's
this makes it genuine as i can see it, if ford make a rs500 shell
its a rs500 shell and the fact its been made with motorsport in mind
makes it somthing worth having.
a
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team who raced in the dtm in the 80's with gpa rs500's
this makes it genuine as i can see it, if ford make a rs500 shell
its a rs500 shell and the fact its been made with motorsport in mind
makes it somthing worth having.
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Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
the rs500 beam has different mounting points on it i believe.
i have seen a gen beam and cannot recall why they have different mounts.![Red Faced](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif)
i have seen a gen beam and cannot recall why they have different mounts.
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I personally didn't realise that 3dr shell's were as cheap as £1500!
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