how would an frs compare to an evo...
17-07-2007, 06:45 PM
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how would an frs compare to an evo...
lets say they was both 300bhp..... how would they compare on a track?? straight line speeds and cornering???
just curious
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17-07-2007, 07:05 PM
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My best mate had his FRS on APT's rollers[anyone whos been on a Dyno Dynamics rolling road will tell you they are very accurate] last week and it made 302bhp at 1.3bar, Thats has quite alot of work done on it to get that power though.
When he had just fitted the new turbo and was still running 1bar it sat quite happily with an Evo 8 FQ 330 in a straight line. Corners i cannot say as he hasn't come up against one on the twisties yet.
A bit different but it did leave a new shape Scooby wrx through a section of corners for dead in the dry. In the wet it wouldnt stand a chance but thats pretty obvious.
When he had just fitted the new turbo and was still running 1bar it sat quite happily with an Evo 8 FQ 330 in a straight line. Corners i cannot say as he hasn't come up against one on the twisties yet.
A bit different but it did leave a new shape Scooby wrx through a section of corners for dead in the dry. In the wet it wouldnt stand a chance but thats pretty obvious.
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17-07-2007, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
Id guess at the FRS having the Evo on the straights, due to transmission losses...
....and then the Evo, coming back and maybe past through the corners
Even match?
....and then the Evo, coming back and maybe past through the corners
Even match?
17-07-2007, 08:17 PM
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the FRS is probably blue, the evo something else.
on a corner, the FRS would be 0.35 secs slower (rolex timing)
on a straight, the evo would go in a straight line.....so would the evo for that matter, hope that helps.
on a corner, the FRS would be 0.35 secs slower (rolex timing)
on a straight, the evo would go in a straight line.....so would the evo for that matter, hope that helps.
17-07-2007, 08:32 PM
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lol mad comparison ive been round the track in an evo and been round plenty of street tracks in a fwd 300 bhp ford the fwd just understeers at bends and goes straight on the evo is planted and goes round on rails no comp mate 
Oh and i forgot to add the same FRS at 250bhp left the same WRX for dead on track aswell. Why people find it so hard to belive that a FWD car can go around corners just as fast and sometimes faster than a 4wd car in the dry?
17-07-2007, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Both driven by Joe bloggs = Lancer would hammer you into tomoorow.
Both driven by Experienced driver in each marque = Would be quite even.
Both driven by Experienced driver in each marque = Would be quite even.
17-07-2007, 08:41 PM
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i dont know but my mate has just picked up his evo 8- 260 today and it leaves me standing from 0 and i have 282bhp 
or a cheapskate i dunno why anyone would choose the budget evo
17-07-2007, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by The Usual Suspect
lol mad comparison ive been round the track in an evo and been round plenty of street tracks in a fwd 300 bhp ford the fwd just understeers at bends and goes straight on the evo is planted and goes round on rails no comp mate
Oh and i forgot to add the same FRS at 250bhp left the same WRX for dead on track aswell. Why people find it so hard to belive that a FWD car can go around corners just as fast and sometimes faster than a 4wd car in the dry?
17-07-2007, 09:25 PM
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cant remember-nothing spectacular as it was my first time and i only did 6 laps in all as the focus was running a bit hot 
i think it was mid/low 9 mins
i think it was mid/low 9 mins
17-07-2007, 09:42 PM
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On my last track day at Snetterton there was an Evo VIII FQ300, it was completely stripped inside apart from carbon seats, carbon door cards and a cage. It was trailered there & running PROPER slicks. Power wise I have no idea if it had been tweeked, given the above mods I would think so. I COMPLETELY doored it on track followed it frustratingly for about 5 laps where I was gaining serious ground on the corners (and backing off considerably) and out of every bend he was pulling a few feet (4WD grip) then on the straights we were DEAD even. Eventually he let me through and it didn't take long to gain alot of ground on him.
Now, obviously 99% of that was down to his driving (quite funny as he trailered it there etc ) but I wouldn't under-estimate how a FRS corners. Mine runs Yoko AO48s, has a proper seat & harnesses and runs usual mods (285BHP on your average non Dyno Dyamics rollers) with a proper air-air intercooler set-up. With the 330BHP conversion and AP 6pots I would expect the FRS to do very well on track. I might find out one day! 
On a previous track day I managed to pass a VII and a VIII FQ330.
followed it frustratingly for about 5 laps where I was gaining serious ground on the corners (and backing off considerably) and out of every bend he was pulling a few feet (4WD grip) then on the straights we were DEAD even. Eventually he let me through and it didn't take long to gain alot of ground on him.Now, obviously 99% of that was down to his driving (quite funny as he trailered it there etc
) but I wouldn't under-estimate how a FRS corners. Mine runs Yoko AO48s, has a proper seat & harnesses and runs usual mods (285BHP on your average non Dyno Dyamics rollers) with a proper air-air intercooler set-up. With the 330BHP conversion and AP 6pots I would expect the FRS to do very well on track. I might find out one day! On a previous track day I managed to pass a VII and a VIII FQ330.
17-07-2007, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by The Usual Suspect
lol mad comparison ive been round the track in an evo and been round plenty of street tracks in a fwd 300 bhp ford the fwd just understeers at bends and goes straight on the evo is planted and goes round on rails no comp mate
17-07-2007, 10:45 PM
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Hi, Ive currently got a FRS and a Evo 5 at the moment, had a evo 9 340 to. The FRS has suprised me, in the dry it is even with the evo 5. It turns in better, infact its the best car i have ever had that turns in so well. The stright line power is good, but i recon 280 it would be perfect all rounder. As stu says if it was 2 joe bloggs the evo would waste. But if you know how to drive FWD you would be all over a 4wd.Infact I rally fwd and on some stages am quicker than 4wd, and all my road cars for 6yrs have been 4wd!
17-07-2007, 10:53 PM
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As many have said..
Without driving a Focus RS, you have no reason to comment on it being a crap handling car due to the FWD.
Saying that.. dependant on what evo... ford will probably still lose as they are immense!
Without driving a Focus RS, you have no reason to comment on it being a crap handling car due to the FWD.
Saying that.. dependant on what evo... ford will probably still lose as they are immense!
18-07-2007, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by The Usual Suspect
lol mad comparison ive been round the track in an evo and been round plenty of street tracks in a fwd 300 bhp ford the fwd just understeers at bends and goes straight on the evo is planted and goes round on rails no comp mate
you the pf police are ya? or have you fell out of your pram because i bigged up an evo and i,ll post werever i like or o i tell ya what i,ll buy both get my shadow to race me in one then report back to you shall i?
nash the fwd had all the bits but maybe in hindsight you have a point
18-07-2007, 05:39 PM
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i have both cars that are mentioned ,and i can honestly say the evo around bends whould beat the focus and i thought that the focus was exellent until i bought an evo aswell
as for power in a straight line, if both are moddified i think they are pritty equal
as for power in a straight line, if both are moddified i think they are pritty equal
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