xr2i-carl

i dont think they did

jsut want conformation

Turbo Zetec

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YES

Rab

Yes. The Mk2 XR4i was avaliable as an utterly gutless 2.0 DOHC

cossie4i+

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Only Mk1s should be called XR4is

And yes they did

Steve.

xr2i-carl

any pics of it? same bi-wing etc? 3 door?

cossie4i+

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The Mk2 was just a normal 5 door sierra with a XR4i badge

Steve.

iansoutham

If it was that gutless, how come you have to tune a Pinto quite a lot just to get standard DOHC power?

Are you calling Pinto engines gutless as well

cossie4i+

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As far as i can remember its only a 10bhp difference between the pinto and dohc engine.

Steve.

Rab

Mate... I don't care what you think. I KNOW they're gutless.... For a fact. I've driven one. Slower than an Air Hostess doing quadratic equations

SapphyMike

there was also a 2.0 XR4x4!

iansoutham

2.0 Pinto is normally 100bhp (approx) with the exception of the EFi which was slightly higher and the DOHC is 130bhp standard I believe.

xr2i-carl

yeah i knew about that one


so in reality this xr4i 2.0 aint the real xr4i were used to


just cheapo xr4x4 lackin the x4

SapphyMike

kinda..

errr

the Sierra GT was hat ws left in the parts bin

iansoutham

not wishing to start an argument, but I've got TWO of them, a non-cat 2wd and a 4x4 with Catalyst and can show you probably over 80 other people who have them as well. They are quicker than Pinto and CVH-powered ones and slower than 2.9 V6 and Cossies.

You must just have driven a bad one. Don't tar them all with the same brush........

Rab

iansoutham

Fair enough them mate. Maybe the one I drove was a lemon


Was ridiculously slow though... I got overtaken by a Clio 1.2 going uphill

SapphyMike

must've been belled - mine was quite nippy when i had it - it was my first car though.. lol

xr2i-carl

mate whether there gutless or not??? you like them thats all that matters!!!


they are gutless to a 300bhp cossie

and there rapid to a 1.4 fiesta

marco polo

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yes i think they did but im sure it was a 4wd xr4x4 and it would not pull the skin of a rice pudding slow as fook

i dont think there was a 2.0litre xr4i mk1 , there was a 2.0i.s pinto powered

marco

cossie4i+

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The injected pinto was 115bhp and the dohc was 125bhp

Steve.

Rab

The 2wd 4i was also avaliable as a 2.0 mate. I have the brochure waaaaaay back in 1989!

My old man bought a 2.0i GLX We thought it was sporty cos it had foglamps

marco polo

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yes may be in mk2 shape but defo not in the mk1 shape as they were all 2.8i

sjwagstaff

can vouch for that as i have a 1991 2.0 Xr4i,rwd and quite nippy .

cossie604

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Dont forget the foreign mk2 XR4i tho..they were availble as 3drs

Rab

No your right. The mk1 version was called the sierra 2.0iS

And didn't have the spoiler that the 4i's had

James

we had a three door mk2 in work the other week, very very cool! [for a sierra]

tabetha

I had a mk1 xr4i, rebuilt engine different cam slightly modded heads(dry fuel) and it was slow, had it after got rid of my 2.1 pinto automatic, which was way faster.
My dad has a xr4i just right with a V8 just seems the natural choice, looks real at home in the engine bay.
tabetha

Mike1

SA got a 5-dr Sierra with the bi-plane rear spoiler (like the rwd V6 XR4i)
and a 5-litre V8 - called the XR8

Tee from China

Yes there was more than one XR4i. Back in 84 there was only one - the three door bi-spoiler one!

In 89 with the launch of the I4 DOHC engine Ford in their marketing wisdom chose to 'muddy the waters' with not one but three XR models!!!

Top dog was the XR4x4 with the 2.9iV6 engine , with four wheel drive next the XR4x4 with the 2.0 litre I4 DOHC engine with four wheel drive and then the base model the XR4i in two wheel drive only and all 5 door hatches.. The only way to distinguish a V6 engined one was by the fact it had the 4 spoke alloys where the 4x4 2.0i had a different style and the 4i was on steels with GLS type wheel trims . The XR4i was the same specs as the GLS but with the painted XR4x4 type rear spoiler which on the GLS was plain black

Just to add more confusion the 4i and the 2.0i 4x4 were sold as 3 door hatches and not 5 door in many European countries from 88- 91!!!

dojj

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there was no way to distingish between the 2.9 and the 2.0 xr4x4's, they all had the same stuff other than engine's (and bits of the gearbox and different diff ratios and exhaust but you know what i mean)

the dohc xr4i had a blue pin stripe in the bumpers to distingish it from everthign else, thats it, otherwise it was a ghia spec with alloys

the spah and estate versions of the xr range were never called xr's, but ghia's

and they are pretty qwuick for what they are, mainly down to the diff ratio's which give them a fairly spurty bit of speed off the line

MWF

Before dismissing the 2.0DOHC as guttless you really have consider how shite the V6s are.

dojj

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side by side there isn't a lot in it off the line
but once you are going, there isn't really much to compare, the V6 generates enough torque to stay in 5th while the dohc needs to work the gears to keep up (trust me, been there, done that, 5th gear around roundabouts on slip roads, motorways etc, only had to change gear initially when we set off, then when we got the destination and this was in a bogo standard 2.9 4x4 estate with a slightly breathed upon 2.0 estate behind)

for sure they both used the same amount of juice, but the dohc used more trying to keep up, if the same journey had been done at a less frantic pace i'm sure it would have been much better

and talking of dohc fuel economy, 132 miles, 8.06 litres of fuel

sorted

Tee from China

Sorry but the Sapphire and Estate 4x4s were never included in the XR programme and were just Ghia 4x4's and never had the different front seats or trim of the XR's. All Ghias had more chrome, different seats and the only thing shared with the V6 4x4 was the all round electric windows where the XR 4x4 2.0i was an option and the XR4i only got fronts like the GLS!

With the colour of the inserts for the body mouldings - certain colourways had a choice of black, blue or red and could be chosen at ordering time it was usually the alloys wheels that gave the clue to what engine was under the bonnet - but some used to pay the dealer to swap the alloys from the 2.0i for the V6 ones anyway so as you say difficult to say which 4x4 was the 'vee' or not!

Daviet

ive driven both the 2.0 xr4x4 and the 2.9 and tbh there is not alot in it i thought.think the 2.9 just sounds like your going quicker but in reality you aint

dojj

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?
you ain't making sense there mr
the dohc xr4i had blue stripes in the bumpers and side trim, that's all there was to differentiate it from the ghia other than the alloys
other wise it was all ghia inside including 4 leccy windows and aws in the centre console
same with the saphs and the estate, they were badged ghia's but had basicly the same top of the line set up as the xr's but without the names
the ghia 4x4's had ghia alloys and the xr 4x4's had the xr alloys up until a point, but there was never a 2.0 alloy and a 2.9 alloy, and when they went to the 92 spec cars, they all got the same 15 inch alloys across the range no matter the body style

also, there were 3 xr4x4 estates registered so they were inculded in the range

unles you are on about the early 2.8 ghia estate, which were much more plush than the xr's of that era

cossie4i+

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8.06 litres is approx 1.8 Gallons, which would give you about 73.33mpg.

Im sorry but your talking out of your arse

Steve.

dojj

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you've not seen my driving have you
and the ecomony of my engine has been fairly well documented in the past when it was up and running, 440 motorway miles at around 80 mph with a bit of town driving in it for 38 litres, not bad, and considering i was 3 up as well = 52.5 mpg and that wasn't me filling up, it was my mate who needed a lift who can verify that for you

dojj

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also, it did take the best part of 2.5 hours to do the trip and i was slip streaming a lorry all the way down the M1 when i got my 73mpg so it's not as if i wasn't cheating a bit

Thrush

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I fully agree! Why did they bother attaching the XR4i logo to the mk2? It was a boggo 5dr mk2 Sierra RWD hatch, with a 2 litre twin cam engine - that only made 125bhp and was slow as fuck Should have called it the Sierra "Special"

Seriously tho, it shared nothing akin with the previous XR4i's, other than it was RWD, which all Sierra's were (except the 4x4's obviously). The XR4x4 was a continuation of the original XR4i in as far as taking it's 2.8 V6 lump, then evolving it into the 2.9.... 4x4 was added to "improve" on the 4i's original set up....

The mk2 4i was a waste of space and only a marketing exercise really.... And it didn't really sell that much so a bit of a wasted marketing exercise IMO......

dojj

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it was only on sale for about 16 months as far as i can make out, 90 91

sjwagstaff

yes dojj only produced between 90 and 91,and i believe only 1500 were produced in that guise......and mine is one