Are we alone in the universe?
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Originally Posted by nilrem
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I hate the thought that amazing things like finding other living planets will happen beyond my lifetime
We'll be living on Mars within 30 years tho!
I think that there has to be other life, especially seeing as it all begins with chemical reactions. Only thing is, are there other planets with oxygen?
We'll be living on Mars within 30 years tho!
I think that there has to be other life, especially seeing as it all begins with chemical reactions. Only thing is, are there other planets with oxygen?
I think our own limitations prevent us from being able to accurately imagine such a thing.
They say we only use 10% of our brains, so that's probably why it's also so hard to imagine what was there before anything existed!
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No where are not alone and people from outerspace are allready here.
Yust watch the videos.
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as for other life forms, who knows, maybe there are so many other planets with far more advanced beings than us.
who would want to visit 'earth' ?
most of the inhabitants know nothing,
we fight each other and look like destroying the Planet we live on. Most of this effort is to make sure the rich people gain a few more dollars more.
In fact we are pretty basic when it takes all our effort just to get a few miles into space.
would anyone drive their cossie around the globe 100 times to look at some ants building a nest in New Zealand.
who would want to visit 'earth' ?
most of the inhabitants know nothing,
we fight each other and look like destroying the Planet we live on. Most of this effort is to make sure the rich people gain a few more dollars more.
In fact we are pretty basic when it takes all our effort just to get a few miles into space.
would anyone drive their cossie around the globe 100 times to look at some ants building a nest in New Zealand.
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If you want to know how many other civilations are out there then go to this website:
http://www.activemind.com/Mysterious..._equation.html
Hit the calculate button and it will tell you (not a wind-up). Its the Drake Equation, developed by Frank drake.
Also, any civilation out there intelligent enough to communicate with us will be massively more advanced than us. Its simple maths. The universe has been around for 13 billion years give or take and during that time we have only been radiating radio waves from our plant in the last 100 years. Hence, we are right at the birth of the technological age. Seeing as the rest of the universe has been around for 13 billion years its unlikely that any life form detecting our radio waves has also been around for less than 100 years!
I like to think that we might be the only lifeforms in the universe and the whole place is just a blank canvas for us to use as we see fit. It would take billions and billions of years but one day mankind (or what we devolve into!) may populate the entire universe!
http://www.activemind.com/Mysterious..._equation.html
Hit the calculate button and it will tell you (not a wind-up). Its the Drake Equation, developed by Frank drake.
Also, any civilation out there intelligent enough to communicate with us will be massively more advanced than us. Its simple maths. The universe has been around for 13 billion years give or take and during that time we have only been radiating radio waves from our plant in the last 100 years. Hence, we are right at the birth of the technological age. Seeing as the rest of the universe has been around for 13 billion years its unlikely that any life form detecting our radio waves has also been around for less than 100 years!
I like to think that we might be the only lifeforms in the universe and the whole place is just a blank canvas for us to use as we see fit. It would take billions and billions of years but one day mankind (or what we devolve into!) may populate the entire universe!
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It'd be like that airwaves ad where the alien turns up and they tell him to make himself at home and he realises what kind of life he'd end up with
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Originally Posted by SimonT
Size is only proportionate to what your comparing said object with.
Anyway, THIS explains the universe.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cNV9FEKi9FQ
Anyway, THIS explains the universe.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cNV9FEKi9FQ
To summarize your points Chip
1) No, we are not Alone.
2) The Universe is a circle. Probably a Krispy Kreme
3) We will have to wait until Aliens bring the tech for us to start space Travel. Every time NASA launch a Shuttle the wings get bashed up by Foam falling on them. You think they'd make it Mars?(and Ive seen the Beagle 2 lander footage Yuotube here
4) There is no God.
HTH
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This imo is the most interesting topic of conversation. Its so mind boggling how vast the universe is and i dont think for one minute we are alone.
The comet that dropped all our goodies must still be plowing into planets today.
When i sit and think about the universe it gets a bit frustrating as i will never ever know just what is out there
The comet that dropped all our goodies must still be plowing into planets today.
When i sit and think about the universe it gets a bit frustrating as i will never ever know just what is out there
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this dude was on earth, just to make a one hell of a sat phone
but regarding to space
i dont think we are alone out there, as its just endless
but that i dont think is that the aliens looks like this:
or like the supposed alien caught in roswell in 1945
as i think i would look like:
or it could look like this too
did like the planets/stars pics you posted
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The universe and everything to do with it is absolutly fasinating. however it makes my brain hurt just thinking about it as im a person who wants answers or likes to find a way to get answers but with this i think for now and many many generations ansewrs that we all seek will not come.
Of course unless something totally unexpected happens and we get the answer tomorrow or something
Who wishes it was like start trek now and we could all go jeting of around the universe?
Of course unless something totally unexpected happens and we get the answer tomorrow or something
Who wishes it was like start trek now and we could all go jeting of around the universe?
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There was a bit on the news about looking at the centre of the universe. But it was just a bunch of white dots, and he didn't explain it very well.
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Originally Posted by OrionRST200bhp
all im going to say is MATRIX.
However I prefer this one better
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra5-H9ZBS1U
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ok,...i ve read all his topic, and while the majority is interesting, and quite scary given the size of the other planets, there is still something, a question, that has not been asked...
if the universe was created by a big bang....
what was there before the big bang...
also, the measurement of the universe is in theory
it is impossible for us to measure
at the rate the universe is expanding, although slowing down, the time it would take to "find" a new part of the universe with our current technology, another bit has been made, and by the time we do find it, another bit has been made
we can however, look back in time
because the time it takes to recieve light via the most advanced telescopes
we are reciving images that happened millions of years ago
in the same way that the sun is 8 light minutes away
so the light we see from the sun, was what the sun looked like 8 minutes go
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i stole the last bit in bold from a website to explain what i meant
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if the universe was created by a big bang....
what was there before the big bang...
also, the measurement of the universe is in theory
it is impossible for us to measure
at the rate the universe is expanding, although slowing down, the time it would take to "find" a new part of the universe with our current technology, another bit has been made, and by the time we do find it, another bit has been made
we can however, look back in time
because the time it takes to recieve light via the most advanced telescopes
we are reciving images that happened millions of years ago
in the same way that the sun is 8 light minutes away
so the light we see from the sun, was what the sun looked like 8 minutes go
edit
i stole the last bit in bold from a website to explain what i meant
carl
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Originally Posted by G.B Turbo Solutions
also, the measurement of the universe is in theory
it is impossible for us to measure
at the rate the universe is expanding, although slowing down, the time it would take to "find" a new part of the universe with our current technology, another bit has been made, and by the time we do find it, another bit has been made
we can however, look back in time
because the time it takes to recieve light via the most advanced telescopes
we are reciving images that happened millions of years ago
in the same way that the sun is 8 light minutes awayso the light we see from the sun, was what the sun looked like 8 minutes go
edit
i stole the last bit in bold from a website to explain what i meant
carl
it is impossible for us to measure
at the rate the universe is expanding, although slowing down, the time it would take to "find" a new part of the universe with our current technology, another bit has been made, and by the time we do find it, another bit has been made
we can however, look back in time
because the time it takes to recieve light via the most advanced telescopes
we are reciving images that happened millions of years ago
in the same way that the sun is 8 light minutes awayso the light we see from the sun, was what the sun looked like 8 minutes go
edit
i stole the last bit in bold from a website to explain what i meant
carl
oh and i know you got it off another site... but its the sun is not "8 light minutes away"... its 8 earth minutes away... measurements are all relative... just thought i would let you know...
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8 light minutes away"... its 8 earth minutes away
not sure about that...not just cause i seen it elsewhere, but have a think about it
1 light minute = 17 987 547.5 kilometers
this isnt a mearuement of time, but light, and how far it travels in 1 earth minute
so if it takes the light of the sun, 8 light minutes to reach earth, then the sun is approx 143900380 k from earth
which is about right
its not in earth minutes, becase the equation is including light and not "time" as its known, and as light moves faster than anything in the known universe it is mearured to light to make things a little less complicated...lol...
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i can see where you are coming from... as in light years... but its still the distance a particle of light can travel in a year.. so its a distance rather than a time... (got confused there...)
interesting space fact
the speed of light is a constant... which is why they believe they can change time at the speed of light...
interesting space fact
the speed of light is a constant... which is why they believe they can change time at the speed of light...
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the reason that light cant be measured in earth minutes, is becuse "light speed" is based on the light being in an absolute vacuum
whereas on earth its not a vacuum
i was up till dark oclock this morning reading shit about the universe, and fuck me...its astounding
but i cant help thinking that
"what if" somone somewhere had got a claculation wrong or misinterperated it, then the universe as we know it maybe infinatley bigger/smaller than we know
carl
whereas on earth its not a vacuum
i was up till dark oclock this morning reading shit about the universe, and fuck me...its astounding
but i cant help thinking that
"what if" somone somewhere had got a claculation wrong or misinterperated it, then the universe as we know it maybe infinatley bigger/smaller than we know
carl
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Originally Posted by G.B Turbo Solutions
but i cant help thinking that
"what if" somone somewhere had got a claculation wrong or misinterperated it, then the universe as we know it maybe infinatley bigger/smaller than we know
carl
Imagine if another species made contact the impact it would have
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thats the bit that does me
"they" can weigh plantes and moons suns, yet its all based on clculations relating to the gravitational pull on stars etc around them
like, how do "they" KNOW that in the core of M87, there is an object that is 1,200,000,000 times heavier than our sun, and also, how do they "know" that M87 is a black hole and that even light cannot travel fast enough to escape a black hole, and where the fook does all the matter entering a black hole "go"
mind bending
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"they" can weigh plantes and moons suns, yet its all based on clculations relating to the gravitational pull on stars etc around them
like, how do "they" KNOW that in the core of M87, there is an object that is 1,200,000,000 times heavier than our sun, and also, how do they "know" that M87 is a black hole and that even light cannot travel fast enough to escape a black hole, and where the fook does all the matter entering a black hole "go"
mind bending
carl
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Originally Posted by G.B Turbo Solutions
whereas on earth its not a vacuum
i was up till dark oclock this morning reading shit about the universe, and fuck me...its astounding
but i cant help thinking that
"what if" somone somewhere had got a claculation wrong or misinterperated it, then the universe as we know it maybe infinatley bigger/smaller than we know
carl
i was up till dark oclock this morning reading shit about the universe, and fuck me...its astounding
but i cant help thinking that
"what if" somone somewhere had got a claculation wrong or misinterperated it, then the universe as we know it maybe infinatley bigger/smaller than we know
carl
lol about the size thing... if someone got it wrong, then we could be the biggest thing in the universe... and all the other planets you see in the sky ar actually the size you see them... lol... it ends just past the moon!
there are things that support ideas, like other planets being affected by something else through gravity or such like... like when a star supernova's after becoming a white dwarf there is a ginormous gravitaional pull that pulls every thing around it in... thats one of the ways they tell if a star is about to explode or not...
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the thing thats even more mind bending, is that even though light has no mass, and therefore no momentum, how can it be affected by the gravitatilnal pull from a black hole? how big must gravity be to pull stuff with no mass in?
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Originally Posted by nilrem
Originally Posted by G.B Turbo Solutions
whereas on earth its not a vacuum
i was up till dark oclock this morning reading shit about the universe, and fuck me...its astounding
but i cant help thinking that
"what if" somone somewhere had got a claculation wrong or misinterperated it, then the universe as we know it maybe infinatley bigger/smaller than we know
carl
i was up till dark oclock this morning reading shit about the universe, and fuck me...its astounding
but i cant help thinking that
"what if" somone somewhere had got a claculation wrong or misinterperated it, then the universe as we know it maybe infinatley bigger/smaller than we know
carl
...
yeah,....hence why i was saying light is measured in light minutes, and not earth minutes
another thing that does my head in, is that i KNOW im not intelligent enough to understand exactly how they know what they know
and that is very frustrating
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Originally Posted by nilrem
the thing thats even more mind bending, is that even though light has no mass, and therefore no momentum, how can it be affected by the gravitatilnal pull from a black hole? how big must gravity be to pull stuff with no mass in?
yup
its a head fuck of the highest order
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just a quick comment in regards to the 'are we alone in the universe'....due to the statisitcal chance of theres being so i do beleive there are other life forms more and less advanced than ourselfs.
the problem also is even in this subject we are limited by what we understand, if a lifeform can do something amazing that no human can do or replicate with machines, but yet has no form of communication or base thought are they more advanced or not?
also getting onto the will they visit part, the only issue with that comes from the fact that scientists use s=d/t to look back in time at far away stars to see what happened, due to the time it takes for light to reach us, ie the further we want to look back, the larget distance we have to see.
now that may or may not pose a problem for other lifeforms, they maybe in another solar system and decide, lets have a look around this(our) solar system, due to the distance and now time they will be looking at a planet much younger than it is now.
im not gonna try and work out how far back in planets life they will see as im at work and a bit busy and each solar system/galaxy would have a different number, but say for example it was 20 million years ago, all they would see is primative lifeforms running around in the forests, not able to maintain contact or educated.
if im completely off the mark here feel free to bitch slap me as im only half awake today
the problem also is even in this subject we are limited by what we understand, if a lifeform can do something amazing that no human can do or replicate with machines, but yet has no form of communication or base thought are they more advanced or not?
also getting onto the will they visit part, the only issue with that comes from the fact that scientists use s=d/t to look back in time at far away stars to see what happened, due to the time it takes for light to reach us, ie the further we want to look back, the larget distance we have to see.
now that may or may not pose a problem for other lifeforms, they maybe in another solar system and decide, lets have a look around this(our) solar system, due to the distance and now time they will be looking at a planet much younger than it is now.
im not gonna try and work out how far back in planets life they will see as im at work and a bit busy and each solar system/galaxy would have a different number, but say for example it was 20 million years ago, all they would see is primative lifeforms running around in the forests, not able to maintain contact or educated.
if im completely off the mark here feel free to bitch slap me as im only half awake today