Picking the new car up tonight.....PICS ADDED
11-07-2007, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Staffi,
Do NOT change the 3dr hubs / TCAs, as the handling traits you are experiencing are down to the fact that Martin wouldn't listen to my advice on setting up the geometry and he has had it set it up with TOE OUT
. This makes the car VERY quick to turn in, but a bitch in a straight line 
. Set the car to 2mm TOE-IN and the wandering at high speed will be vastly improved, at the expense of the turn-in speed 
. It is JUST a set-up problem - NOTHING more! 
Do NOT let anyone convince you that the car should be set to parrallel (Ford factory settings) or the car will be just as bad at high speed due to the bush deflection.
Do NOT change the 3dr hubs / TCAs, as the handling traits you are experiencing are down to the fact that Martin wouldn't listen to my advice on setting up the geometry and he has had it set it up with TOE OUT
. This makes the car VERY quick to turn in, but a bitch in a straight line . Set the car to 2mm TOE-IN and the wandering at high speed will be vastly improved, at the expense of the turn-in speed . It is JUST a set-up problem - NOTHING more! Do NOT let anyone convince you that the car should be set to parrallel (Ford factory settings) or the car will be just as bad at high speed due to the bush deflection
. What Staffi hasn't mentioned is that i put 12 months MOT on it for him, it originally failed due to a leaking rack..which is nothing major, these things happen...anyway i fitted the brand new rack yesterday and got it retested and Staffi took the car straight away, so the geometry is more than likely way out (although i marked it up as best i could when refitting).
So once he has it realigned it should be better ( i'd expect it to be at least 2-3mm out either side tbh
)i did take your advice actually Mike when i fitted the rear beam
, but i only had 1mm TOE-IN on the front from memory....can't remember what the rear was set to ( the report is with the history folder).
11-07-2007, 08:30 AM
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Hi Martin,
As you can see, I'm working hard in the office....LOL
How's the three door, Even though I've given you stick for selling the Sapphire, I must admit the three door does look superb. How was the drive home....Hope you didn't have to drive as far as you did in the Saph.
As you can see, I'm working hard in the office....LOL
How's the three door, Even though I've given you stick for selling the Sapphire, I must admit the three door does look superb. How was the drive home....Hope you didn't have to drive as far as you did in the Saph.
11-07-2007, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Well 1mm is not 2mm 
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At least Staffi now knows why it is wandering all over the place.
.At least Staffi now knows why it is wandering all over the place
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tbh it was on my list of things to do, to have it re set-up.....i was happy with the way it handled, but it still had a tiny bit of understeer, which was fine cos you just back off and you get oversteer then bury the throttle lol...but the good thing about having everything adjustable is that you can keep playing til you get it how you want it
as said though, the rack being fitted will be the main cause
11-07-2007, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim Green
Hi Martin,
As you can see, I'm working hard in the office....LOL
How's the three door, Even though I've given you stick for selling the Sapphire, I must admit the three door does look superb. How was the drive home....Hope you didn't have to drive as far as you did in the Saph.
As you can see, I'm working hard in the office....LOL
How's the three door, Even though I've given you stick for selling the Sapphire, I must admit the three door does look superb. How was the drive home....Hope you didn't have to drive as far as you did in the Saph.
i'm actually really pleased with it, it drives very well, nice and smooth.
i have a few things i'm going to do straight away, and then a couple of things showed themself on the way home which i'll sort....one being i think it suffers from is heat getting on the starter or alternator wiring ( it struggled slightly when cranking it over when starting hot.
and i think it has a loose electrical connection somewhere....but nothing i can't sort and it gives me some use of my garage i guess
it was only an hour drive
11-07-2007, 08:37 AM
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I'm sure you'll have it all sorted by the time I get back (4 weeks....lol), and look forward to getting together again at one of the shows.....Now I have two cars to look at and drool over.
Check the main ht lead that goes to the starter, it may be a bit crusty if it's the original, and of course giving the earths a good clean may help. Starter motors do get tired, but it's an easy job to change them, and they're not too expensive.
Still looking around at 3drs myself, but this time I'll stay totally standard if I can find one. I didn't go for the MK Escort Track Car.....just too much money to have sat in a track car.
Congrats on the new car, looking forward to more pics. Must admit it's not a car that I've seen around before ....
Check the main ht lead that goes to the starter, it may be a bit crusty if it's the original, and of course giving the earths a good clean may help. Starter motors do get tired, but it's an easy job to change them, and they're not too expensive.
Still looking around at 3drs myself, but this time I'll stay totally standard if I can find one. I didn't go for the MK Escort Track Car.....just too much money to have sat in a track car.
Congrats on the new car, looking forward to more pics. Must admit it's not a car that I've seen around before ....
11-07-2007, 12:00 PM
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Mike, so when i take the car to be done if i take a printed copt of your pm you think this should correct things?? 
HOPEFULLY..
Right, so where do i take it then??? ANYONE HELP...........
HOPEFULLY.. Right, so where do i take it then??? ANYONE HELP...........
11-07-2007, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Green
Spend 20k on it, and it might even keep up with the Sapphire
Unfortunately Jim you sound like someone who's far too over protective of their old car and cant let it go
I think everyone knows now its your old car
11-07-2007, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Lambchop
Originally Posted by Nash
Originally Posted by Jim Green
Spend 20k on it, and it might even keep up with the Sapphire
Unfortunately Jim you sound like someone who's far too over protective of their old car and cant let it go
I think everyone knows now its your old car
No offence like..
11-07-2007, 01:41 PM
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Ha Ha....Guys, you could well be right, that's what happens when you own a car for 16yrs....It's not intentional though, and I know Martin & Staffi will tell me to shut up at some time......LOL.
It's called Cosworth Withdrawal Symptom.......But I'll get over it....
It's called Cosworth Withdrawal Symptom.......But I'll get over it....
11-07-2007, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Green
Ha Ha....Guys, you could well be right, that's what happens when you own a car for 16yrs....It's not intentional though, and I know Martin & Staffi will tell me to shut up at some time......LOL.
It's called Cosworth Withdrawal Symptones.......But I'll get over it....
It's called Cosworth Withdrawal Symptones.......But I'll get over it....
i completely understand that it must be hard after 16 years
but still you CHOSE to sell it so
11-07-2007, 01:53 PM
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And No Offence Taken Guys, I'm just happy that it stayed in the Club
Now I'd better get back to work and try and get this damned BMW to go quicker, otherwise they'll both be flying past me, one after the other....LOL
You'll probably recognize the similarity to the Hocks.......
Now I'd better get back to work and try and get this damned BMW to go quicker, otherwise they'll both be flying past me, one after the other....LOL
You'll probably recognize the similarity to the Hocks.......
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