First pictures of new engine/turbo .
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Originally Posted by Deano
[I was just asking that , is building such an extreme top speed car that Rod himself doesnt get to drive in that environment very often worth all the time and money invested for something that gives such a relatively short enjoyment span or is it just the kudos of having the worlds fastest sapphire cosworth that motivates him ?
I did set out to create the worlds fastest RS Cosworth following a challenge from Bruce Reid, its now my hobby & I love it, much better than watching the tv or looking at my bus pass.
Please realise im old enough to be grandad to many of the youngsters on here lets see how many have my drive & determination when they are past 60.
I dont need sex every day these days & I also dont need to be the Topspeed driver, you youngsters cant grasp than im sure but its called getting older & I would not change with you guys cos life at the mo is very sweet.
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Fair play for using a computer, let alone anything else Rod!
I personally do hope I have your drive and determination in something when I'm your age!!
is all I can say.
I personally do hope I have your drive and determination in something when I'm your age!!
is all I can say.
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead
Originally Posted by Kev.H
Originally Posted by Mark Shead
Originally Posted by Kev.H
about time you cossie boys started using primary designs manifolds quality gear us focus RS owners have been doing it for ages mine freaking glows on the rollers even when ceramic coated martins must go freaking bright orange never didnt understand why he didnt coat it
Mark
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Originally Posted by MadRod
Originally Posted by Deano
[I was just asking that , is building such an extreme top speed car that Rod himself doesnt get to drive in that environment very often worth all the time and money invested for something that gives such a relatively short enjoyment span or is it just the kudos of having the worlds fastest sapphire cosworth that motivates him ?
I did set out to create the worlds fastest RS Cosworth following a challenge from Bruce Reid, its now my hobby & I love it, much better than watching the tv or looking at my bus pass.
Please realise im old enough to be grandad to many of the youngsters on here lets see how many have my drive & determination when they are past 60.
I dont need sex every day these days & I also dont need to be the Topspeed driver, you youngsters cant grasp than im sure but its called getting older & I would not change with you guys cos life at the mo is very sweet.
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Originally Posted by Captain Mike
I dont think Keith is a normal working guy and the true sense Deano, because i do not know a normal working guy that can afford a truck to transport there 1000bhp skyline around that seems to get rebuilt fairly regualy, I would class he more as a fairly well of buisness man to be honest and there in lies the difference affordable decadence.... rich boys and there toys,
Mike
Mike
i wish the above was true
I can only just afford to do this because of all the help a get from my sponsors without them i would have to sell up.
the truck had to go because it used Ł450 of fuel each time to go racing.
Keith
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Hi Keith,
Sorry i think my point was not made as good as it could have been, l am looking at a stroker engine it is going to cost thousands i do not consider myself a normal working bloke as l earn well above the national average, and l am sure that you probably do as well, that was the point i was trying t make,
If you dont then pm your secret and good luck for TOTB
Regards Mike
Sorry i think my point was not made as good as it could have been, l am looking at a stroker engine it is going to cost thousands i do not consider myself a normal working bloke as l earn well above the national average, and l am sure that you probably do as well, that was the point i was trying t make,
If you dont then pm your secret and good luck for TOTB
Regards Mike
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You have to love the name "perfect bore" when so many of the engines they do seem to be so far from perfect.
And all you get if you question it is "we did formula 1 engines"
Didnt they nearly get put out of business by mclaren for having so many failures on their engines?
And all you get if you question it is "we did formula 1 engines"
Didnt they nearly get put out of business by mclaren for having so many failures on their engines?
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Originally Posted by EsCosRacer
rod,
was it steel or nikasil liners that failed ? mike had regular liners before and they failed on the ring. now we put proper nikasil from perfectbore and hope it'll last in our engines....
michael
was it steel or nikasil liners that failed ? mike had regular liners before and they failed on the ring. now we put proper nikasil from perfectbore and hope it'll last in our engines....
michael
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the actual block cracked in half the last time
Rod is there now way of bracing the block?
maybe this is why some of the high power cars half fill the water ways with concreate?
Rod is there now way of bracing the block?
maybe this is why some of the high power cars half fill the water ways with concreate?
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i thought it did but the liners were ok?
what would the alloy blocks be like for this level of power? not heard anything about them yet?
i saw an F1 program ion a video i have here, showing the cosworth factory when testing various engines including the rs200 engine, and the block kept changing shape for them on the dyno, so they aborted the projectas they could see it was never going to make the power they wanted for F1 and built a complete new engine which used the main bearing caps as braces across the block which had to be pressed apart to fit the caps with a special tool
the video was recorded off channel 4 years ago ,its called "turbo" once around the block, from a program called equinox
what would the alloy blocks be like for this level of power? not heard anything about them yet?
i saw an F1 program ion a video i have here, showing the cosworth factory when testing various engines including the rs200 engine, and the block kept changing shape for them on the dyno, so they aborted the projectas they could see it was never going to make the power they wanted for F1 and built a complete new engine which used the main bearing caps as braces across the block which had to be pressed apart to fit the caps with a special tool
the video was recorded off channel 4 years ago ,its called "turbo" once around the block, from a program called equinox
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Originally Posted by JTECHSAFF
did you have liner issues on the last engine then rod? otherwise why change from what worked before?
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Originally Posted by JayCos
takes some bollox to move away from what you have tried with liner's rod
so do you and mark think thats why the block split last time round because of heavy machining for the mountune items
so do you and mark think thats why the block split last time round because of heavy machining for the mountune items
Mark
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead
Originally Posted by JayCos
takes some bollox to move away from what you have tried with liner's rod
so do you and mark think thats why the block split last time round because of heavy machining for the mountune items
so do you and mark think thats why the block split last time round because of heavy machining for the mountune items
Mark
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Originally Posted by MadRod
Originally Posted by JTECHSAFF
did you have liner issues on the last engine then rod? otherwise why change from what worked before?
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Originally Posted by JayCos
takes some bollox to move away from what you have tried with liner's rod
so do you and mark think thats why the block split last time round because of heavy machining for the mountune items
so do you and mark think thats why the block split last time round because of heavy machining for the mountune items
Personally I would like to see the addition of a girdle.
However, thats all entirely speculative and im sure Mark has more solid ideas on both the reason for failure and the ways to avoid it.
This latest failure is TOTALLY different as far as I can see, as its a liner fault not a block fault.
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This is why Harvey had the liners made by Perfect Bore to his spec (wet liners) and then had the liners put in the block by the guys that do all the machining work for Mountune.
Obviously it is MUCH more expensive from a machining point of view (as the entire original block walls are removed). However, Harvey wasn't happy with the "dry" liner type of fitment that Perfect Bore seem to favour, and his concerns have obviously been proven correct looking at what happened to Rod's engine . The worrying thing is that Martin is also running the same dry liner set up .
Obviously it is MUCH more expensive from a machining point of view (as the entire original block walls are removed). However, Harvey wasn't happy with the "dry" liner type of fitment that Perfect Bore seem to favour, and his concerns have obviously been proven correct looking at what happened to Rod's engine . The worrying thing is that Martin is also running the same dry liner set up .
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Originally Posted by foreigneRS
if cost wasn't an object, would you start with a ford in the first place?
thats a good point, and the thing that makes me think "is it worth this massive amount of money and r+d "
would it not be quicker to drop a lambo engine in the saph
cant se the point of wanting to get an outdated shell (i say shell, cause obviously theres not much left of the original saph) to 200mph
carl
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
This has been proven to work on the 700bhp engine that Harvey recently did, so I think it will be okay for my ickly baby 500 engine .
I dont think that would last in Rods engine.
An insert of all 4 joined together from one billet would though I reckon.
Fuck knows till its actually tried on something of Rods spec though of course!
As far as im aware he is going for more torque than has ever been done on a YB anywhere before, so its kind of hard for him to copy anyone else with any confindence!
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Mike, dont mountune already have an option like im discussing here on their books as a standard option?
Whole centre of the block machined out and a complete insert put in?
Whole centre of the block machined out and a complete insert put in?
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by Zetec_mk4_XR3i
fantastic job guys - best of luck on the dyno
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Originally Posted by martin-reyland
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
and his concerns have obviously been proven correct looking at what happened to Rod's engine . The worrying thing is that Martin is also running the same dry liner set up .
Out of curiousity, how do yours differ from Rods?
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by Zetec_mk4_XR3i
fantastic job guys - best of luck on the dyno