How comes Fords/Vauxhalls/anything non-Jap are crap @ TOTB?
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It simply boils down to finances. All you have to do is take a quick poll of the type of people that own Fords and then compare that to people that own the high powered Jap cars. I think you will find that the average wage of the Ford owners is somewhat down on that of the average wage of the Evo / Skyline owners
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
It simply boils down to finances. All you have to do is take a quick poll of the type of people that own Fords and then compare that to people that own the high powered Jap cars. I think you will find that the average wage of the Ford owners is somewhat down on that of the average wage of the Evo / Skyline owners
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Im not sure its that simple, I think a lot of it is the sort of people owning each.
Lots of "midlife crisis my wife just left me 45 year old ugly cunt" evo and scooby owners who think that now their dick doesnt work anymore their car needs to
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Trouble is with most of this, most of the talk is guessing and presuming rather than knowing.
Just because cars are mental, it dont mean they never used on the road.
Id not be that suprised if for example the Norris Evo and Roger Clark Scooby (both of which I know get taken for regular road jaunts) have been driven more on the road in the last year or so than a lot of "road" cars on here.
And people moaning about it not being as good any more.
Well the fact its a million times busier than it was at the start says its better.
It wouldnt be that busy if it was full of ordinary but quick cars running 12s, 13s, 14s, etc etc like it used to be, people go to be wowed, times move on, what was impressive in TOTB1 wouldnt bat an eyelid now.
Just because cars are mental, it dont mean they never used on the road.
Id not be that suprised if for example the Norris Evo and Roger Clark Scooby (both of which I know get taken for regular road jaunts) have been driven more on the road in the last year or so than a lot of "road" cars on here.
And people moaning about it not being as good any more.
Well the fact its a million times busier than it was at the start says its better.
It wouldnt be that busy if it was full of ordinary but quick cars running 12s, 13s, 14s, etc etc like it used to be, people go to be wowed, times move on, what was impressive in TOTB1 wouldnt bat an eyelid now.
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fwd is the lower class of cars and how much would it take for a cav turbo to take on rocket ronnie ??????????????
in fact i dont think any vaux would ever come close not a dig just askin
in fact i dont think any vaux would ever come close not a dig just askin
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Originally Posted by CozzyBrom
fwd is the lower class of cars and how much would it take for a cav turbo to take on rocket ronnie ??????????????
in fact i dont think any vaux would ever come close not a dig just askin
in fact i dont think any vaux would ever come close not a dig just askin
Rwd though they could easily do so though, with either a lotus carlton or a monaro, both of which have 800bhp+ potential
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
It simply boils down to finances. All you have to do is take a quick poll of the type of people that own Fords and then compare that to people that own the high powered Jap cars. I think you will find that the average wage of the Ford owners is somewhat down on that of the average wage of the Evo / Skyline owners
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Im not sure its that simple, I think a lot of it is the sort of people owning each.
Lots of "midlife crisis my wife just left me 45 year old ugly cunt" evo and scooby owners who think that now their dick doesnt work anymore their car needs to
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Originally Posted by Redkop
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
It simply boils down to finances. All you have to do is take a quick poll of the type of people that own Fords and then compare that to people that own the high powered Jap cars. I think you will find that the average wage of the Ford owners is somewhat down on that of the average wage of the Evo / Skyline owners
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Im not sure its that simple, I think a lot of it is the sort of people owning each.
Lots of "midlife crisis my wife just left me 45 year old ugly cunt" evo and scooby owners who think that now their dick doesnt work anymore their car needs to
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Originally Posted by Stavros
what was impressive in TOTB1 wouldnt bat an eyelid now.
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Originally Posted by nickymi2
Originally Posted by Stavros
what was impressive in TOTB1 wouldnt bat an eyelid now.
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i know that nick it would not cost that now if it was for sale then u guess around Ł3000 for the kit to do it with modded chassis
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Originally Posted by foreigneRS
Originally Posted by CozzyBrom
i know that nick it would not cost that now if it was for sale then u guess around Ł3000 for the kit to do it with modded chassis
it was 6 figures without the diff !!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Stavros
bollocks excuses
esp the money one, people spend insane money on cossies, bigger budgets than so many other cars, buit fuck all to show barring forum hero worship.
i reckon cossies have as much or more potential than most, its about spending money wisely.
martins car once set up and running to its max is potentially better than almost the whole of the TOTB/TimeAttack competitiors in an all round sense, awesome motor.
broms car too in the RWD classes.
renton does well enough in the cossie in time attack with not the most amazing spec on earth, its not that cossies are bad at all, no excuses, the potentially the bollocks.
and there MANY other cars that have had similar amounts of money spent, tho maybe not so wisely.
and this isnt cossie love talking, no blinkers, just saying what i see
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esp the money one, people spend insane money on cossies, bigger budgets than so many other cars, buit fuck all to show barring forum hero worship.
i reckon cossies have as much or more potential than most, its about spending money wisely.
martins car once set up and running to its max is potentially better than almost the whole of the TOTB/TimeAttack competitiors in an all round sense, awesome motor.
broms car too in the RWD classes.
renton does well enough in the cossie in time attack with not the most amazing spec on earth, its not that cossies are bad at all, no excuses, the potentially the bollocks.
and there MANY other cars that have had similar amounts of money spent, tho maybe not so wisely.
and this isnt cossie love talking, no blinkers, just saying what i see
And don't fucking polish a cossie but drive to fuck out of it.
And some people here forget to setup up their cars the right way.
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by CozzyBrom
fwd is the lower class of cars and how much would it take for a cav turbo to take on rocket ronnie ??????????????
in fact i dont think any vaux would ever come close not a dig just askin
in fact i dont think any vaux would ever come close not a dig just askin
Rwd though they could easily do so though, with either a lotus carlton or a monaro, both of which have 800bhp+ potential
Here are some aussie performance fords.
Great for slaying jap cars
http://www.fpv.com.au/index.aspx
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by CozzyBrom
i fort andy with the maestro won fwd ????
he works with a company and his car cost alot more than 5 grand or am i confused
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he works with a company and his car cost alot more than 5 grand or am i confused
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Originally Posted by RS500
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by CozzyBrom
fwd is the lower class of cars and how much would it take for a cav turbo to take on rocket ronnie ??????????????
in fact i dont think any vaux would ever come close not a dig just askin
in fact i dont think any vaux would ever come close not a dig just askin
Rwd though they could easily do so though, with either a lotus carlton or a monaro, both of which have 800bhp+ potential
Here are some aussie performance fords.
Great for slaying jap cars
http://www.fpv.com.au/index.aspx
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Agreed, worldwide both ford and vauxhall have V8 rwd cars that could be competitive.
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Originally Posted by rbwilling
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by CozzyBrom
i fort andy with the maestro won fwd ????
he works with a company and his car cost alot more than 5 grand or am i confused
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he works with a company and his car cost alot more than 5 grand or am i confused
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http://www.vauxhall-sport-forum.com/...d&image_id=115
http://www.vauxhall-sport-forum.com/...y&image_id=118
Those are genuine event winning hubcaps baby
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Its an XE (normally aspirated astra engine) on thorttle bodies with a lot of nitrous
Homemade too
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Originally Posted by NEEDFORSPEED
Originally Posted by *VICKIE*
Originally Posted by jdee0499
why have this debate cosworths are all legendery motors none off that jap crap will ever compair
spot on, we dont need to take our cossies to totb to prove how good they are.
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why is it that i find most general public these days dont even know what a "cosworth" is
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however when you mention something like "evo" or "impreza", everyone seems to understand what you're on about
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i would say that the modern jap cars have a lot more (as you say) "road presence" and only in an RS fans eyes, does the cossie win this argument
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by RS500
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by CozzyBrom
fwd is the lower class of cars and how much would it take for a cav turbo to take on rocket ronnie ??????????????
in fact i dont think any vaux would ever come close not a dig just askin
in fact i dont think any vaux would ever come close not a dig just askin
Rwd though they could easily do so though, with either a lotus carlton or a monaro, both of which have 800bhp+ potential
Here are some aussie performance fords.
Great for slaying jap cars
http://www.fpv.com.au/index.aspx
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Agreed, worldwide both ford and vauxhall have V8 rwd cars that could be competitive.
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