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Old 04-06-2007, 04:52 PM
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Default Computer people, advise is needed please!!

I am in the process of finishing my new study which use to be the 3rd bedroom, the problem being is that my internet line comes into the house downstairs into the living room, Can you recommend me a good wireless router which I can plug into my line down stairs and will give me a good signal to my new pc upstairs ??
Old 04-06-2007, 05:24 PM
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You will get a multitude of answers to this. I use Netgear and have found them faultless.
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As above, and you just don't need the super expensive high speed things either - 54M is fine as it's still much faster than your internet connection.

The only time it makes a difference is when you have 2 PC's on your network and you are trying to copy huge amounts of data. I just plug a cable in then...
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ok cool, I was looking at the Belkin ADSL2+ which is E-buyer for £65inc.vat
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You actually have two choices here - you can go for a wireless router to send the internet signal from the downstairs ADSL point to a wireless reciever in the PC upstairs, or you can use something called HOMEPLUGS.

Homeplugs are basically a plug that fits any wall power outlet, and uses the electrical wiring to transport data signals. Basically, it turns your house wiring into one great big network! You plug on in downstairs, connect it to your modem via ethernet (cat5) cable, then plug another one upstairs and connect it to the PC using another ethernet patch cable. The modem recieves the internet signal, sends it to the homeplug, which sends it to the other homeplug(s - you can use more than one!) anywhere in the house, that then connects to a PC

Brilliant invention, and they can do 85mps - much faster and more stable than wireless. No limit on the ammount you can use either, so you can have an internet point in EVERY room in the house - even the shed/garage!

I'll be getting some myself soon I think, as I'd like to extend my internet to other rooms without having to run cat5 all over the place
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my sister mentioned something about these plugs
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Google em mate - LOADS of info...

I first heard about em on an AV forum where people were complaining that wireless wasn't working with PS3's etc and used homeplugs which sorted it right out
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I like the homplug idea.

Or altrenatively get a Netgear. JJ on here told to chuck my rubbishy linksys one away and get a netgear one.

Piece of piss to install and pretty faultless!!!
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Originally Posted by Thrush
You actually have two choices here - you can go for a wireless router to send the internet signal from the downstairs ADSL point to a wireless reciever in the PC upstairs, or you can use something called HOMEPLUGS.

Homeplugs are basically a plug that fits any wall power outlet, and uses the electrical wiring to transport data signals. Basically, it turns your house wiring into one great big network! You plug on in downstairs, connect it to your modem via ethernet (cat5) cable, then plug another one upstairs and connect it to the PC using another ethernet patch cable. The modem recieves the internet signal, sends it to the homeplug, which sends it to the other homeplug(s - you can use more than one!) anywhere in the house, that then connects to a PC

Brilliant invention, and they can do 85mps - much faster and more stable than wireless. No limit on the ammount you can use either, so you can have an internet point in EVERY room in the house - even the shed/garage!

I'll be getting some myself soon I think, as I'd like to extend my internet to other rooms without having to run cat5 all over the place
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Old 04-06-2007, 11:47 PM
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cisco wireless, faultless and top performing.

Smoothwall or clarkconnect running on a old pc with wireless cards
Old 05-06-2007, 01:57 AM
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Depends who your ISP is, if it's cable then a linksys one If not, then probably the netgear one is to second best option
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i also have a netgear one with matching netgear wireless card in the pc. was very easy to setup and gets 99% signal strength and runs faultlessly. mind you, the pc is in the room above where the router is, but my squeezebox on the other side of the house also runs faultlessly from it
Old 05-06-2007, 07:48 AM
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Id say never buy Belkin, total shite. As said earlier buy netgear, good solid product.
Old 05-06-2007, 09:18 AM
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i have one the same as this pal

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Netgear-DG834G...QQcmdZViewItem

Old 05-06-2007, 09:32 AM
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I have virgin cable ( formerly telewest ) and netgear just doesnt work

bought a second hand linksys from an ebay shop for £15 and its rock solid
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I now have a linksys wireless router after having no end of problems with my old Netgear one. Its been ok but the signal was quite weak. I've put a signal booster in the loft which has helped but still not 100% happy. Will be changing my ISP from Pipex soon to see if the internet outtage is them being fookers!!

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Chris, what model router do you have ? Have you updated the firmware for it ??
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Never been a fan of Netgear's, but people seem to like them. Whatever you do though, don't under any circumstances buy anything Belkin. Absolute shite!

I recommend either Linksys routers ot Draytek routers. Drayteks are well pricey though, but thats what i install for customers wanting VPN connectivity into their businesses from home.

Linksys are cheap and cheerful, and work like a dream. I have a Linksys WAG54Gv2 at home and cant fault it.
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Originally Posted by MattRS1600i
I have virgin cable ( formerly telewest ) and netgear just doesnt work

bought a second hand linksys from an ebay shop for £15 and its rock solid
Then you doing something wrong. I am also on Virgin Cable, running a netgear WGT624 and its faultless.
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Originally Posted by Adrian
Originally Posted by MattRS1600i
I have virgin cable ( formerly telewest ) and netgear just doesnt work

bought a second hand linksys from an ebay shop for £15 and its rock solid
Then you doing something wrong. I am also on Virgin Cable, running a netgear WGT624 and its faultless.
Am i really pmsl like you know what i'm doing?!?!?

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Originally Posted by MattRS1600i
Am i really pmsl like you know what i'm doing?!?!?

So go on then, tell us

I had a mate telling me there was no way his router would work with Telewest, and that he had been on to their tech support and they had told him the same.

I went round and spent 5 minutes on it, and it's been fine since. That was about a year ago

How are you setting up the internet connection?
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Netgear DG834GT is a good wired/wireless router.

I dont trust wireless. It's easily crackable if you know what your doing. I use my neighbours connection if our line is maxed out downloading porn!
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Originally Posted by St3V3_C
Originally Posted by MattRS1600i
Am i really pmsl like you know what i'm doing?!?!?

So go on then, tell us

I had a mate telling me there was no way his router would work with Telewest, and that he had been on to their tech support and they had told him the same.

I went round and spent 5 minutes on it, and it's been fine since. That was about a year ago

How are you setting up the internet connection?
I used two types of router from netgear and was using netgear cards, it wouldnt work. We tried configuring it all about a million times and a million ways. My IT director from work also tried as i need to access our work network from home, so if a guy on £80k a year who's job it is to do this stuff cant do it then it couldnt be done in my circumstances

I'm not saying netgear stuff doesnt work with old telewest/virgin i'm saying it didnt work in my circumstances

We think the problem was with the cards not the router but the linksys was a temp fix that has been rock solid so has never been changed.
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Netgear kit's always been good, I've found. The best one I've used so far is a Draytek 2800G, pricey, but worth it
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MattRS1600i, sounds like a bit of an odd one...

Least you got it sorted in the end
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Originally Posted by cozmeister
The best one I've used so far is a Draytek 2800G, pricey, but worth it
At least they've fixed the issues with early firmware's and ADSLMax

First few months after 2800 was launched, on certain ISP's (Zen mostly) they wouldnt sync at anything over 5mbit

Still prefer the 2600G over the 2800G...but thats me, havent got used to the new menu layout on the 2800s yet
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Originally Posted by MattRS1600i
Originally Posted by St3V3_C
Originally Posted by MattRS1600i
Am i really pmsl like you know what i'm doing?!?!?

So go on then, tell us

I had a mate telling me there was no way his router would work with Telewest, and that he had been on to their tech support and they had told him the same.

I went round and spent 5 minutes on it, and it's been fine since. That was about a year ago

How are you setting up the internet connection?
My IT director from work also tried as i need to access our work network from home, so if a guy on £80k a year who's job it is to do this stuff cant do it then it couldnt be done in my circumstances
I install and support networks for small/medium sized businesses, every so called technical/IT director i've ever met hasnt known their arse from their elbow
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Originally Posted by BigMouthBillyBass
I install and support networks for small/medium sized businesses, every so called technical/IT director i've ever met hasnt known their arse from their elbow
Totally agree
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Originally Posted by BigMouthBillyBass
Originally Posted by MattRS1600i
Originally Posted by St3V3_C
Originally Posted by MattRS1600i
Am i really pmsl like you know what i'm doing?!?!?

So go on then, tell us

I had a mate telling me there was no way his router would work with Telewest, and that he had been on to their tech support and they had told him the same.

I went round and spent 5 minutes on it, and it's been fine since. That was about a year ago

How are you setting up the internet connection?
My IT director from work also tried as i need to access our work network from home, so if a guy on £80k a year who's job it is to do this stuff cant do it then it couldnt be done in my circumstances
I install and support networks for small/medium sized businesses, every so called technical/IT director i've ever met hasnt known their arse from their elbow
Well seing as I work for a National It training company with over 25 offices, all wireless networked and over 25000 networked pc's running online training courses and a fully integrated client management and custom 'in-house' reporting facilities that my IT director is responsible for installing and maintaining fuctionality of, i'd say he fucking well knows how to set up one poxy router to a wireless enabled laptop
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Originally Posted by UnseenMenace
Originally Posted by BigMouthBillyBass
I install and support networks for small/medium sized businesses, every so called technical/IT director i've ever met hasnt known their arse from their elbow
Totally agree
I cant help it if you both work for clueless cunts can I?
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Originally Posted by MattRS1600i
Originally Posted by BigMouthBillyBass
Originally Posted by MattRS1600i
Originally Posted by St3V3_C
Originally Posted by MattRS1600i
Am i really pmsl like you know what i'm doing?!?!?

So go on then, tell us

I had a mate telling me there was no way his router would work with Telewest, and that he had been on to their tech support and they had told him the same.

I went round and spent 5 minutes on it, and it's been fine since. That was about a year ago

How are you setting up the internet connection?
My IT director from work also tried as i need to access our work network from home, so if a guy on £80k a year who's job it is to do this stuff cant do it then it couldnt be done in my circumstances
I install and support networks for small/medium sized businesses, every so called technical/IT director i've ever met hasnt known their arse from their elbow
Well seing as I work for a National It training company with over 25 offices, all wireless networked and over 25000 networked pc's running online training courses and a fully integrated client management and custom 'in-house' reporting facilities that my IT director is responsible for installing and maintaining fuctionality of, i'd say he fucking well knows how to set up one poxy router to a wireless enabled laptop
Surely thats what he pays his staff for? He is most likely a top class delegator
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I'll be a top class delegator for £80k a year and a company car
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I have installed and used a fair share of routers both wireless & wired and have personally found Netgear & DLink the best value for money!
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I had D-Link G604T when i lived at my mums a few years back, had no end of problems with the wireless, used to drop every hour or so and fail to reconnect itself. So you find that you set a big download going, leave it overnight, come back, and find out that the wireless had fallen over 10 minutes after i'd left it

I thought it was the D-Link PCI card but tested with an HP laptop with Broadcom wireless chip. Same problems

I moved out and left it there, piece of junk Luckily my parents PC is sat right next to it so it's connected through cat5
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Originally Posted by BigMouthBillyBass
Originally Posted by MattRS1600i
Originally Posted by BigMouthBillyBass
Originally Posted by MattRS1600i
Originally Posted by St3V3_C
Originally Posted by MattRS1600i
Am i really pmsl like you know what i'm doing?!?!?

So go on then, tell us

I had a mate telling me there was no way his router would work with Telewest, and that he had been on to their tech support and they had told him the same.

I went round and spent 5 minutes on it, and it's been fine since. That was about a year ago

How are you setting up the internet connection?
My IT director from work also tried as i need to access our work network from home, so if a guy on £80k a year who's job it is to do this stuff cant do it then it couldnt be done in my circumstances
I install and support networks for small/medium sized businesses, every so called technical/IT director i've ever met hasnt known their arse from their elbow
Well seing as I work for a National It training company with over 25 offices, all wireless networked and over 25000 networked pc's running online training courses and a fully integrated client management and custom 'in-house' reporting facilities that my IT director is responsible for installing and maintaining fuctionality of, i'd say he fucking well knows how to set up one poxy router to a wireless enabled laptop
Surely thats what he pays his staff for? He is most likely a top class delegator
Why comment on something you know fuck all about I told you what he does, and HE does it. Hands on.
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